Ubi.4136 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Maybe it's just me, but I don't think Joko is behind all of this, at least there is little chance he would be appearing in the second episode of season 4. So, episode 2 has a chance to at least "show" us a bad guy, or something bad to fight. Episode 2 looks to take place (in part) where episode 1 ended. There were lots of inquest bodies and someone had to have been smarter (or outsmarted) Taimi with regards to Scruffy. *puts on tin foil hat* Anyone seen Phlunt lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragga the Eighty Third.60 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I think Phlunt is just petty, small-minded and selfish, not a master villain. But maybe we'll get to strike at some major Inquest leaders! I have stocked up on Powerful Potions of Inquest Slaying. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearawr.9847 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I agree in thinking Joko isnt the villain. its too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umut.5471 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 We still have no evidence that Joko escaped the prison. So someone may be impersonating him for personal interests. (like we did) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 The trailer had a dark and scary tone so its safe to assume none of that will be there for the actual episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palador.2170 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Given the use of "bug" in the name, I think we're going to see some of his (their) research into recreating the scarab plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swing.6439 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I want Braham to get eaten alive by scarabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malerine.5762 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Personnaly according to the sing Joko could be again the saver ;). Maybe that time we will find a way to uncorrupt him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arden.7480 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Joko stays behind all of this. Taimi confirms that, and the voice also confirms that. We couldn't see him, because he entered the portal under the platform to the unknown location- possibly another Inquest's base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsakhi.8124 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Malerine.5762" said: > Personnaly according to the sing Joko could be again the saver ;). Maybe that time we will find a way to uncorrupt him I just got this awesome mental image of Joko holding a microphone in one hand, leaning in slowly, and then he starts to sing: "Fear not this night..." The darkness around everyone pulses and then explodes into anti-matter. "Though shadows fall.." The world breaks and everything ends. "Still the stars find a way." A tree breaks from the void, is it Yggdrasil, born from the ashes of hope? "fear not this night..." The tree is set aflame as a swarm of scarabs flies from the now deathmetal screaming Joko. "who needs the light, anyway?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMA Thava.1379 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Joko wont make an appearance until late in the season...maybe around episode 5 at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor.2358 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Cragga the Eighty Third.6015" said: > I think Phlunt is just petty, small-minded and selfish, not a master villain. How about an anti-"Scarlet Pimpernel"? A villain mastermind posing as a petty, small-minded, selfish scientist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaklex.6308 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Palador.2170" said: > Given the use of "bug" in the name, I think we're going to see some of his (their) research into recreating the scarab plague. Here I thought the "bug" referred to the members of Dragons Watch entering the former Inquest base to disrupt the operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I would be really disappointed if they keep Joko away. This is the best character GW franchise ever had, he should be the most prominent, sinister villain in the game. I fear at the end they give Joko 0 justice - like they did with white mantle, Lazarus and whole mursaat race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plautze.6290 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Zaklex.6308" said: > > @"Palador.2170" said: > > Given the use of "bug" in the name, I think we're going to see some of his (their) research into recreating the scarab plague. > > Here I thought the "bug" referred to the members of Dragons Watch entering the former Inquest base to disrupt the operation. From the trailer I'd rather think that the Inquest operation was disrupted some time ago (perhaps by a bug in the magitech system?) and the base now serves as a hub for Joko's forces to be distributed. Has anyone tried to identify the background of the "portals" the Awakened come from? To me it looks Elonian, but I was too busy wrecking said Awakened. Also, I agree on the player not witnessing Joko being released although it is said that Joko is bound "By Balths will". With Balth dead, it would make perfect sense for Joko to escape. But who is to say that another force can't do what we have done and just impersonate Joko in front of his Awakened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsumiju.3071 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 One thing I noticed is that there is more to explore under the last fight with Scruffy 2.0 at the end of Daybreak. The main computer suggests that the lab has been running for over 7 years already, so we're dealing with someone with a long-term plan (who has likely been impersonating Joko for a long time as well) There are also 6 smaller containment pods and one prominent one. The 6 smaller ones show only one active, one extinct and the remainder I believe are dormant. My first thought was Dragons, however Zhaitan and Mordremoth are dead so the numbers wouldn't match. Could they be references to the six gods instead? Not sure on that one either. Now the only worrying bit I have is that this main containment pod shows as the records being deleted etc, if this is some kind of origin story for Scarlet Briar I'm gonna be annoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxila.7948 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I see a little chance for that Joko will make an appearance or at least we will be able to talk to him, at the trailer's end the Joko's picture moved , he might communicates through the picture somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Tsumiju.3071" said: > if this is some kind of origin story for Scarlet Briar I'm gonna be annoyed. Season 1 confirmed! :) Given the clamor for season 1 I doubt they will ignore it but at the same time I can not see them recreating season 1 as it was. Maybe a side story or another point of view or some background. Hopefully it will not be just a fractal recreating the events or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragga the Eighty Third.60 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > I would be really disappointed if they keep Joko away. This is the best character GW franchise ever had, he should be the most prominent, sinister villain in the game. I fear at the end they give Joko 0 justice - like they did with white mantle, Lazarus and whole mursaat race. It's a mistake to overuse your best villain, though. His appearances should be something special, and a direct fight against him should be the climax of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsumiju.3071 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Anyone else of the opinion that Joko needs more sass though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Cragga the Eighty Third.6015" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > I would be really disappointed if they keep Joko away. This is the best character GW franchise ever had, he should be the most prominent, sinister villain in the game. I fear at the end they give Joko 0 justice - like they did with white mantle, Lazarus and whole mursaat race. > > It's a mistake to overuse your best villain, though. His appearances should be something special, and a direct fight against him should be the climax of the story. I think Joko is far from being overused. We've met him once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Doom.4380 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Cragga the Eighty Third.6015" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > I would be really disappointed if they keep Joko away. This is the best character GW franchise ever had, he should be the most prominent, sinister villain in the game. I fear at the end they give Joko 0 justice - like they did with white mantle, Lazarus and whole mursaat race. > > > > It's a mistake to overuse your best villain, though. His appearances should be something special, and a direct fight against him should be the climax of the story. > > I think Joko is far from being overused. We've met him once! One time too many. How Joko gets the positive reception he does baffles me. He's a tedious, one-note cardboard cut-out of a villain. If he has any personality at all I've yet to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Tiny Doom.4380" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Cragga the Eighty Third.6015" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > I would be really disappointed if they keep Joko away. This is the best character GW franchise ever had, he should be the most prominent, sinister villain in the game. I fear at the end they give Joko 0 justice - like they did with white mantle, Lazarus and whole mursaat race. > > > > > > It's a mistake to overuse your best villain, though. His appearances should be something special, and a direct fight against him should be the climax of the story. > > > > I think Joko is far from being overused. We've met him once! > > One time too many. How Joko gets the positive reception he does baffles me. He's a tedious, one-note cardboard cut-out of a villain. If he has any personality at all I've yet to see it. Compared to elder dragons he's the best thing this franchise ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsumiju.3071 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"Tiny Doom.4380" said: > One time too many. How Joko gets the positive reception he does baffles me. He's a tedious, one-note cardboard cut-out of a villain. If he has any personality at all I've yet to see it. hence why more "sass" in his character would totally work, it would be like fighting skeletor with a better array of jokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsakhi.8124 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I think Joko's charm lies in his arrogance. I know that sounds weird, but when you have someone that truly places themselves above the consequences of gods and mortals, you seriously start to question how far down the rabbit hole they've fallen. Add to this, Joko is ancient (several centuries old, I think) and he still lives (although he's a lich), that he lived through everything he did is a testament to his determination to be known and feared. Truth be told, I want to see how flammable a lich is... tl:dr - Joko has enough charisma to work his role in the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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