Taka.1264 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Hello all ! Just wanted to say to anet that the next spec HAS TO get deception type skills and thus mobility !! I love the necromancer so much, the shroud mec is amazing BUT I'm so tired of being at huge desaventage... And with scourge i though without shroud we'll be cool but BAAAM even slower spec like what the kitten?! Spec were supposed to play the class differently ... And then I look at mirage and they got deception skills and mobility on top of mobility... Seriously anet ? Anyway, I want mobility, tired of being the class without mobility and block/evade/invuln ... Sorry for my english it's not my first language, cheers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Necromancer has swiftness, rush skills and teleports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 > @"Justine.6351" said: > Necromancer has swiftness, rush skills and teleports. Every class has swiftness, except the main skill used for swiftness knocks them into combat when something hits it. The teleport is not an escape or mobility skill for a necro; the difference in movement is less than 200 units if one kept running with swiftness in the same direction. It's more of a functional utility for the group, not the necro itself. Now if sandswell went 1500 instead of 900 and was instant cast, then yes, we could now argue necro has mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 > @"DeadlySynz.3471" said: > > @"Justine.6351" said: > > Necromancer has swiftness, rush skills and teleports. > > Every class has swiftness, except the main skill used for swiftness knocks them into combat when something hits it. The teleport is not an escape or mobility skill for a necro; the difference in movement is less than 200 units if one kept running with swiftness in the same direction. It's more of a functional utility for the group, not the necro itself. Now if sandswell went 1500 instead of 900 and was instant cast, then yes, we could now argue necro has mobility. So we talking running away, gap closing or just travel? Necromancer has what it needs but since that is its "weak spot" you will have to build around that. That's not poor design, that's balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taka.1264 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Fine, the reaper is slow, it's his "weak spot". Then make it tankier please... Oh and, btw, why a war is tankier and more mobile ? Just wondering ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchyfx.5768 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 In playing wvw zerker reaper im not having that much problem. ONLY match Up i win ONLY if oponent Is Very bad player Is Thief. And druid. I use traveler rune set. Im using Focus for offhand fór healing, vulneability And boonhate dmg on 1200 range. Its rly hard im not saying IT isnt but it can be Done. Except thiefs. We have So Slow attacks So we Can't rly hit them ONLY with surfer,And shroud pop traitlines(maybe fear) And Axe too od you can little bit predict their movements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anchoku.8142 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 > @"Taka.1264" said: > Fine, the reaper is slow, it's his "weak spot". Then make it tankier please... > Oh and, btw, why a war is tankier and more mobile ? Just wondering ... Reaper has chill as its defense right after shroud - or is that before shroud? In any case, chills are meant to bolster Reaper defense. Reaper is possibly (still) supposed to be shorter on defense and offense than heavy armor professions. Kormir knows why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLind.6278 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 > @"Taka.1264" said: > Fine, the reaper is slow, it's his "weak spot". Then make it tankier please... > Oh and, btw, why a war is tankier and more mobile ? Just wondering ... Warrior mobility is tied to GS, and GS3 is used for either mobility or damage, and GS5 misses afk targets regularly. Dagger is about to get nerfed to shit, so I imagine there will be a handful fewer dagger wars out there. Even then, dagger 2/burst aren't that significant for mobility. DEFINITELY more mobile than necro, but can come at a cost in many situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublimatio.6981 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 > @"Justine.6351" said: > Necromancer has swiftness, rush skills and teleports. That's funny, tell another one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 > @"Sublimatio.6981" said: > > @"Justine.6351" said: > > Necromancer has swiftness, rush skills and teleports. > > That's funny, tell another one! Necromancers have a regenerating damage shield fueled by offensive action in most cases, defensive in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Thief is over there -> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimon.7840 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 > @"Anchoku.8142" said: > > @"Taka.1264" said: > > Fine, the reaper is slow, it's his "weak spot". Then make it tankier please... > > Oh and, btw, why a war is tankier and more mobile ? Just wondering ... > > Reaper has chill as its defense right after shroud - or is that before shroud? In any case, chills are meant to bolster Reaper defense. Reaper is possibly (still) supposed to be shorter on defense and offense than heavy armor professions. Kormir knows why... Oh right. And he has awesome access to chills -NOT. Not to mention that any other class has way easier ways to cleanse conditions than reaper. And they even changed the trait from: take 10% less dmg from chilled foes" to "do 10%more dmg to chilled foes" If at least chill would shorten the distance of leaps or jumps.... then this would be pretty nice. Defensive and offfensive wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 > @"Nimon.7840" said: > > @"Anchoku.8142" said: > > > @"Taka.1264" said: > > > Fine, the reaper is slow, it's his "weak spot". Then make it tankier please... > > > Oh and, btw, why a war is tankier and more mobile ? Just wondering ... > > > > Reaper has chill as its defense right after shroud - or is that before shroud? In any case, chills are meant to bolster Reaper defense. Reaper is possibly (still) supposed to be shorter on defense and offense than heavy armor professions. Kormir knows why... > > Oh right. And he has awesome access to chills -NOT. > ***Not to mention that any other class has way easier ways to cleanse conditions than reaper.*** And they even changed the trait from: take 10% less dmg from chilled foes" to "do 10%more dmg to chilled foes" > > If at least chill would shorten the distance of leaps or jumps.... then this would be pretty nice. Defensive and offfensive wise > If you don't want those condition transfer weapon skills on your necro you can give them to my revenant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDragon.3046 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Not true anet can totally make up a new skill line rather than giving them something that exested on other professions in the base game. Punishments are fine example of that. While deceptions would be nice its more than likely that necro will get something entirely new or that they will get something that came along in the PoF exp pack on other professions.. Considering the number of options necro has for an elite spec its a very low chance that they will get deception skills Deception, Cantrips, Stances, Meditations, Traps, Glyphs, Other types of summonings such as conjured weapons or turrets, and the off chance of just getting something totally new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 > @"ZDragon.3046" said: > Not true anet can totally make up a new skill line rather than giving them something that exested on other professions in the base game. Punishments are fine example of that. While deceptions would be nice its more than likely that necro will get something entirely new or that they will get something that came along in the PoF exp pack on other professions.. > Considering the number of options necro has for an elite spec its a very low chance that they will get deception skills > Deception, Cantrips, Stances, Meditations, Traps, Glyphs, Other types of summonings such as conjured weapons or turrets, and the off chance of just getting something totally new. I would argue Consecrations are actually on the list for potential skills in a future elite spec. It sounds strange, but the role of Necromancers in Tyrian society is caretakers of the dead and funerary rites. Consecrations can easily fit that theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDragon.3046 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"Drarnor Kunoram.5180" said: > > @"ZDragon.3046" said: > > Not true anet can totally make up a new skill line rather than giving them something that exested on other professions in the base game. Punishments are fine example of that. While deceptions would be nice its more than likely that necro will get something entirely new or that they will get something that came along in the PoF exp pack on other professions.. > > Considering the number of options necro has for an elite spec its a very low chance that they will get deception skills > > Deception, Cantrips, Stances, Meditations, Traps, Glyphs, Other types of summonings such as conjured weapons or turrets, and the off chance of just getting something totally new. > > I would argue Consecrations are actually on the list for potential skills in a future elite spec. It sounds strange, but the role of Necromancers in Tyrian society is caretakers of the dead and funerary rites. Consecrations can easily fit that theme. I would actually like that a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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