Svarty.8019 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018  I evade at the right time and still get burnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 He was obviously stacking his F1 on Whirling Wrath while you were **face tanking** his GS#2 so... @"Svarty.8019" Why didn't you cleanse the burns knowing that would happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5k burn tic 14k burn tic Dead. Part of the problem with condi is the tells disappear pretty easy with more flashy on the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Saiyan.1704" said: > He was obviously stacking his F1 on Whirling Wrath while you were **face tanking** his GS#2 so... @"Svarty.8019" Why didn't you cleanse the burns knowing that would happen? 1. I was manning a catapult, and safely surrounded by our zerg at the time, 2. I couldn't see any tells because the dragonhunter was under the siege models at the time, 3. All of that happened in under 1 second. Great game tho, eh? Counters to everything, you just need to have the reactions of The Flash and the X-Ray vision of Superman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 WvW has wonky balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zantal.4798 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 So hold on, first you say you evaded a the right time, then proceed to say that you were mannina catapult, sorrounded by zerg, you couldn't see the dragonhunter so no tells, and all of that happened in 1 second. So we can safely assume you didn't evade right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 > @"Zantal.4798" said: > So hold on, first you say you evaded a the right time, then proceed to say that > > you were mannina catapult, sorrounded by zerg, you couldn't see the dragonhunter so no tells, and all of that happened in 1 second. > > So we can safely assume you didn't evade right? Indeed! I was manning the catapult, so I took that huge 5k tick. Then I unmanned it and dodged away and avoided whatever would have been next only to get downed by magic numbers from nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 > @"Svarty.8019" said: > so I took that huge 5k tick. 5k ain't a huge burn tick Not that that's any consolation xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhaos.7639 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 wait a minute... 14k on a single burn tick? Are you telling me all those times I got one-hit in wvw it was not only just the damage from 1 guy, but it was also just a single tick? I thought the reason for condi not being affected by armor was because it did damage OVER TIME. If your dead after one tick, whats the point? Alright, fine, I'll just stay in pve then I guess. :confounded: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 > @"Dhaos.7639" said: > wait a minute... 14k on a single burn tick? Are you telling me all those times I got one-hit in wvw it was not only just the damage from 1 guy, but it was also just a single tick? I thought the reason for condi not being affected by armor was because it did damage OVER TIME. If your dead after one tick, whats the point? > > Alright, fine, I'll just stay in pve then I guess. :confounded: There are those (I am not one) that theorise Anet want the competitive modes to fail so they don't have to balance the classes at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Still finding it hard to believe that you> @"Svarty.8019" said: > > @"Saiyan.1704" said: > > He was obviously stacking his F1 on Whirling Wrath while you were **face tanking** his GS#2 so... @"Svarty.8019" Why didn't you cleanse the burns knowing that would happen? > > 1. I was manning a catapult, and safely surrounded by our zerg at the time, > 2. I couldn't see any tells because the dragonhunter was under the siege models at the time, > 3. All of that happened in under 1 second. Now I understand what happened. The Guard used Whirling Wrath on you within a Zerg group. GS#2 Whirling Wrath does 7 AoE hits + 7 projectiles, that translates to 7 x 5 (players hit) + 7 hits from the projectiles = 42. Virtue's Permeating Wrath gives aoe burning on each third hit. In 3/4seconds, you got 14 burn stacks on you easily. Now, there's a reason why GS Burn Guards aren't a thing in Conquest PvP in Plat Division. Worse on side points and burns are easily cleansed and not as easily stacked. In WvW... God knows how many Silver rated players were in that blob of death... if you didn't cleanse then your nearby players didn't either most likely. Not saying it's balanced (apparently every class is OP in this game) but the one trick poney Burn Guard is easily counterable. Even FB is a direct counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyan.1704 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 > @"Saiyan.1704" said: > > > Still finding it hard to believe that you> @"Svarty.8019" said: > > > @"Saiyan.1704" said: > > > He was obviously stacking his F1 on Whirling Wrath while you were **face tanking** his GS#2 so... @"Svarty.8019" Why didn't you cleanse the burns knowing that would happen? > > > > 1. I was manning a catapult, and safely surrounded by our zerg at the time, > > 2. I couldn't see any tells because the dragonhunter was under the siege models at the time, > > 3. All of that happened in under 1 second. > > Now I understand what happened. The Guard used Whirling Wrath on you within a Zerg group. GS#2 Whirling Wrath does 7 AoE hits + 7 projectiles, that translates to 7 x 5 (players hit) + 7 hits from the projectiles = 42. > > Virtue's Permeating Wrath gives aoe burning on each third hit. In 3/4seconds, you got 14 burn stacks on you easily. > > Now, there's a reason why GS Burn Guards aren't a thing in Conquest PvP in Plat Division. Worse on side points and burns are easily cleansed and not as easily stacked. In WvW... God knows how many Silver rated players were in that blob of death... if you didn't cleanse then your nearby players didn't either most likely. > > Not saying it's balanced (apparently every class is OP in this game) but the one trick poney Burn Guard is easily counterable. Even FB is a direct counter. **Edit** You also got hit with Procession of Blades trap... regardless of your big Zerg blob... If you can't see that sword trap activation then you'll always have issues in WvW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brannigan.9831 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 This game was not made for mass scale pvp with fully equipped stats thats why I never WvWvW even though I was an old Dark Age of Camelot and Warhammer player. I only spvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 > @"Saiyan.1704" said: > > > Still finding it hard to believe that you> @"Svarty.8019" said: > > > @"Saiyan.1704" said: > > > He was obviously stacking his F1 on Whirling Wrath while you were **face tanking** his GS#2 so... @"Svarty.8019" Why didn't you cleanse the burns knowing that would happen? > > > > 1. I was manning a catapult, and safely surrounded by our zerg at the time, > > 2. I couldn't see any tells because the dragonhunter was under the siege models at the time, > > 3. All of that happened in under 1 second. > > Now I understand what happened. The Guard used Whirling Wrath on you within a Zerg group. GS#2 Whirling Wrath does 7 AoE hits + 7 projectiles, that translates to 7 x 5 (players hit) + 7 hits from the projectiles = 42. > > Virtue's Permeating Wrath gives aoe burning on each third hit. In 3/4seconds, you got 14 burn stacks on you easily. > > Now, there's a reason why GS Burn Guards aren't a thing in Conquest PvP in Plat Division. Worse on side points and burns are easily cleansed and not as easily stacked. In WvW... God knows how many Silver rated players were in that blob of death... if you didn't cleanse then your nearby players didn't either most likely. > > Not saying it's balanced (apparently every class is OP in this game) but the one trick poney Burn Guard is easily counterable. Even FB is a direct counter. Isn't it strange that the damage is stacked up on one player rather than spread around the group... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabbitUp.8294 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Whirling Wrath and Procession of Blades in the middle of a zerg, yeah, you can see numbers like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat.8975 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 That particular instance of burn ticking on you for so much was likely due to the bug people have been exploiting. It should be fixed soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"Svarty.8019" said: > > @"Saiyan.1704" said: > > He was obviously stacking his F1 on Whirling Wrath while you were **face tanking** his GS#2 so... @"Svarty.8019" Why didn't you cleanse the burns knowing that would happen? > > 1. I was manning a catapult, and safely surrounded by our zerg at the time, > 2. I couldn't see any tells because the dragonhunter was under the siege models at the time, > 3. All of that happened in under 1 second. > > Great game tho, eh? Counters to everything, you just need to have the reactions of The Flash and the X-Ray vision of Superman! > > X-ray vision with how flashy the skills are... would even get Superman go blind xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"cat.8975" said: > That particular instance of burn ticking on you for so much was likely due to the bug people have been exploiting. It should be fixed soon. You'll forgive me if I am skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat.8975 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 > @"Svarty.8019" said: > > @"cat.8975" said: > > That particular instance of burn ticking on you for so much was likely due to the bug people have been exploiting. It should be fixed soon. > > You'll forgive me if I am skeptical. It was fixed in today's patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svarty.8019 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 > @"cat.8975" said: > > @"Svarty.8019" said: > > > @"cat.8975" said: > > > That particular instance of burn ticking on you for so much was likely due to the bug people have been exploiting. It should be fixed soon. > > > > You'll forgive me if I am skeptical. > > It was fixed in today's patch. There's hope! There's hope yet! (I'm such an idiot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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