Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"Toron.4856" said: > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > I would chose many classes to be OP and marked for smiters boon rather than 1 tbh > > > > > > Oh look, an apparent mesmer claiming thief needs nerfs while their class is literally usurping the role of thief in pvp > > > h o w u n u s u a l > > > > I knew there would be like 99% votes for mesmer, so what ? I should have been choosing Mesmer to not be called out for picking something else ? Idc :D > > Theres nothing wrong with the "nerf other classes but not my main" attitude. Everyone is welcome to give his or her opinion. > > Apparently most mesmer mains admitted their class is busted tho and its just a small percentage of the mesmer mains voting for a different class than mesmer :) > @"Odik.4587" said: > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > I would chose many classes to be OP and marked for smiters boon rather than 1 tbh > > > > Oh look, an apparent mesmer claiming thief needs nerfs while their class is literally usurping the role of thief in pvp > > h o w u n u s u a l > > I knew there would be like 99% votes for mesmer, so what ? I should have been choosing Mesmer to not be called out for picking something else ? Idc :dizzy: I've been paying attention to the other Mesmer threads, I know where you stand. Still gonna poke fun at that notion though, especially because it's happening genuinely in other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > @"Toron.4856" said: > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > > I would chose many classes to be OP and marked for smiters boon rather than 1 tbh > > > > > > > > Oh look, an apparent mesmer claiming thief needs nerfs while their class is literally usurping the role of thief in pvp > > > > h o w u n u s u a l > > > > > > I knew there would be like 99% votes for mesmer, so what ? I should have been choosing Mesmer to not be called out for picking something else ? Idc :D > > > > Theres nothing wrong with the "nerf other classes but not my main" attitude. Everyone is welcome to give his or her opinion. > > > > Apparently most mesmer mains admitted their class is busted tho and its just a small percentage of the mesmer mains voting for a different class than mesmer :) > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > I would chose many classes to be OP and marked for smiters boon rather than 1 tbh > > > > > > Oh look, an apparent mesmer claiming thief needs nerfs while their class is literally usurping the role of thief in pvp > > > h o w u n u s u a l > > > > I knew there would be like 99% votes for mesmer, so what ? I should have been choosing Mesmer to not be called out for picking something else ? Idc :dizzy: > > I've been paying attention to the other Mesmer threads, I know where you stand. Still gonna poke fun at that notion though, especially because it's happening genuinely in other threads. > > Ithch ...soemthing like that mesmer , im her twin brother! Dont ask me how that happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brannigan.9831 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Mesmers 1 and despite the nerfs to sustain Warriors 2. Full counter and the interrupts are still annoying as hell, still better sustain then most other power classes, good damage and mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exalted Quality.8534 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 poor revenant potatoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egorum.9506 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Phantasm chrono is now king! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kako.1930 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 When is it not mesmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperadordf.2687 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Where is the **RENEDOMINATOR** option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allias.1420 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 mesmer is a joke lel. Let's call it the memeser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 Maybe I should have said mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Mesmer based on a very simple concept: Every class received _massive_ nerfs to damage and sustain, while mesmers received almost no changes. The bias is repulsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Most every other class received comparable nerfs. Mesmer did not. Mesmers were in good shape prior to the patch, now they're in an even better position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaShi.1368 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 > @"Razor.6392" said: > Mesmer based on a very simple concept: > > Every class received _massive_ nerfs to damage and sustain, while mesmers received almost no changes. The bias is repulsive. It is. The mesmer received a lot changes (including some massive nerfs) and not every class received massive nerfs. There's definitely bias here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 The potato is a mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggityzog.7389 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Scourge still. Because anet loves the spammy spam spam builds to death. They have yet to actually deal with the builds that deal 100 conditions then seconds later 100 conditions again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falan.1839 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Core Hammer Guard was already one of the strongest burst specs before the patch and was completely overlooked. Also Righteous Instinct is beyond broken, basically turning Valkyrie into a zerker amulet with 900 vit for guard. And even if you manage to somehow dodge the JI burst from 1,2k range behind a wall, the guard is still a veritable threat, while an FA ele is basically food once you survive the burst. In ATs this might be counterplayed by the better teams, but in Ranked core guards will be a huge factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick.2987 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 > @"Falan.1839" said: > Core Hammer Guard was already one of the strongest burst specs before the patch and was completely overlooked. Also Righteous Instinct is beyond broken, basically turning Valkyrie into a zerker amulet with 900 vit for guard. And even if you manage to somehow dodge the JI burst from 1,2k range behind a wall, the guard is still a veritable threat, while an FA ele is basically food once you survive the burst. > > In ATs this might be counterplayed by the better teams, but in Ranked core guards will be a huge factor. Lol. You do realize it was not even a problem before pof? It is a burst spec and if you nerf the burst it has nothing, bad mobility, no aoe, no sustained dmg, no sustain and no burst. CC on holosmith on the other hand is still a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falan.1839 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Well, the 50% crit trait only came a few weeks before PoF, so obviously it wasn't much of a factor before... Also for a long time during HoT meta bunker/bruiser specs like Tempest, Druid, Scrapper etc. were a lot stronger than they are now, making burst builds less viable. And I wouldn't call a build with two instant ports bad mobility. Obviously the burst should not be gutted, but something like nerfing Righteous Instincts to 30% crit chance would be good (and much less of a nerf than what has been done to holo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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