Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 > @"Manasa Devi.7958" said: > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > For you, not for me. > > If you want to use the English language incorrectly, I guess that's just fine. > > For you, not for me. You know, my pet is _worth_ all the gold in the world _to me_, but I'm sure not _worth_ much to you. But, to put it in GW2 terms, unlocking certain skins had _worth_ to me, but I've seen others post that they didn't care for those particular skins, at all, and they had no worth, whatsoever. /shrug It's not all about Gold, _for me_. (You might be interested in how the English dictionary defines worth.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Thanks for the post OP. I love seeing what people get from these. It's mainly because I don't want to chance it myself. Just reading through this thread some of you need to chill. If you think a thread is clickbait then leave it and don't post. You can't change the people who do it with your post and if they didn't do it intentionally then you are spinning your wheels complaining about it. I bought 5 keys on that sale (first time in 2 years I took the plunge) and I was satisfied with my results. The drops are much more useful than they used to be and I even got a weapon skin. Totally jealous of those platinum nodes OP :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > It's important to understand the difference between 'gold' and 'value'. Even though they didn't earn that in gold, the value of the items they obtained was worth the stated value. > > "Value" is a matter of perspective. > * 3000g = cost of unlocking all the _skins_ by purchasing via TP or gem shop. (Presuming the OP's math was correct). > * 5775g = the cost of buying 250 keys on the gem shop directly, retail > * 4620g = 20% discount cost > * ~1000g = cost of unlocking the skins the OP actually likes > > But the only important value is what the OP placed on the purchase in the first place > > just wanted to gamble :) > > Which is the only reason to buy the keys (in my opinion): pay for the excitement of hoping to roll something good. If you want specific things, buy them directly (which sometimes includes waiting until they are available to buy directly). I'm not sure that's fair or the only way to look at it. Every item can be attributed a gold value based on what is listed in the market and there isn't anything unreasonable about doing that. It's also how assets are priced. They have a value, but that isn't money in the bank either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasiurus.4067 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 > @"Super Hayes.6890" said: > Thanks for the post OP. I love seeing what people get from these. It's mainly because I don't want to chance it myself. > > Just reading through this thread some of you need to chill. If you think a thread is clickbait then leave it and don't post. You can't change the people who do it with your post and if they didn't do it intentionally then you are spinning your wheels complaining about it. > > I bought 5 keys on that sale (first time in 2 years I took the plunge) and I was satisfied with my results. The drops are much more useful than they used to be and I even got a weapon skin. Totally jealous of those platinum nodes OP :) 100% agree. And btw : sadly the platinum node are not that expensive now : "only" 100g... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Good. Only 98 gold to go lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Advice to you, and most people I see making videos - but all the cultural armors first, or at the very least the first two tiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasa Devi.7958 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > @"Manasa Devi.7958" said: > > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > > For you, not for me. > > > > If you want to use the English language incorrectly, I guess that's just fine. > > > > For you, not for me. > > You know, my pet is _worth_ all the gold in the world _to me_, but I'm sure not _worth_ much to you. But, to put it in GW2 terms, unlocking certain skins had _worth_ to me, but I've seen others post that they didn't care for those particular skins, at all, and they had no worth, whatsoever. /shrug > It's not all about Gold, _for me_. > > (You might be interested in how the English dictionary defines worth.) And you might try to actually read what you're arguing against: > @"Manasa Devi.7958" said: > That's the meaning of "worth" when it relates to money specifically. (Which any good dictionary will confirm.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaborkaldy.3210 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Daaamn. Nice gambling there. Next time you want to gamble just send me the 5kG and see if I send it back or not. 50-50. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstealer.5978 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 > @"Manasa Devi.7958" said: > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > > @"Manasa Devi.7958" said: > > > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > > > For you, not for me. > > > > > > If you want to use the English language incorrectly, I guess that's just fine. > > > > > > For you, not for me. > > > > You know, my pet is _worth_ all the gold in the world _to me_, but I'm sure not _worth_ much to you. But, to put it in GW2 terms, unlocking certain skins had _worth_ to me, but I've seen others post that they didn't care for those particular skins, at all, and they had no worth, whatsoever. /shrug > > It's not all about Gold, _for me_. > > > > (You might be interested in how the English dictionary defines worth.) > > And you might try to actually read what you're arguing against: > > > @"Manasa Devi.7958" said: > > That's the meaning of "worth" when it relates to money specifically. > > (Which any good dictionary will confirm.) I really don't think it's "WORTH" arguing over a dictionary term .. both arguments are right in their own perspective.. I place a personal worth on having the forums up, but I find reading the too'ing and frowing between yourself and Inculpatus kinda pretty much worthless to the topic ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutuxia.1537 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Last week I opened a BLC and got Ghastly Grinning Shield skin from Guaranteed Weapon Unlock thingy, lol. I think i used up all my luck for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasiurus.4067 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just noticed I forgot some 200g trash in inventory from Bags. So its +200G. Edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > It's important to understand the difference between 'gold' and 'value'. Even though they didn't earn that in gold, the value of the items they obtained was worth the stated value. > > > > "Value" is a matter of perspective. > > * 3000g = cost of unlocking all the _skins_ by purchasing via TP or gem shop. (Presuming the OP's math was correct). > > * 5775g = the cost of buying 250 keys on the gem shop directly, retail > > * 4620g = 20% discount cost > > * ~1000g = cost of unlocking the skins the OP actually likes > > > > But the only important value is what the OP placed on the purchase in the first place > > > just wanted to gamble :) > > > > Which is the only reason to buy the keys (in my opinion): pay for the excitement of hoping to roll something good. If you want specific things, buy them directly (which sometimes includes waiting until they are available to buy directly). > > I'm not sure that's fair or the only way to look at it. Every item can be attributed a gold value based on what is listed in the market and there isn't anything unreasonable about doing that. It's also how assets are priced. They have a value, but that isn't money in the bank either. There are lots of "fair" ways to measure value; cost is only the most obvious. Of course it's entirely reasonable to use cost as the primary — or even the only — tool in decision making. However, it's very uncommon for humans to consider only coin when making choices. If that was the only criterion, we wouldn't have casinos (house always win), gift giving during holidays (gifts are never as "valuable" as cash), or people in Silicon Valley paying US$20k to set up chicken coops in their suburban and urban back yards. Entertainment (for gambling), friendship & thoughtfulness (gift giving), and status (nuff said?) all have value, too. Economists like to imagine that they can measure that value in coin-equivalent (and for purposes of business and policy making, that's usually enough), but it remains subjective for each individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasiurus.4067 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Lot's of interest from BLC are the excitement you get from opening them & hoping to get insane loot like Permanent Contract. Overall they have never been rentable or lucrative. Unless you got a permanent contract, you can expect to lose some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos.4263 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (Full Disclosure: I've opened many thousands of these.) This isn't the first "I'm going to open X chests" video I've ever seen, but one thing missing is the excitement of opening each chest. It looks like you're just clicking through the whole stack as fast as you can, not really caring about the stuff, and just hoping to make a profit. I'd advise you (or anyone) not to do that because the vast, vast majority of the time you're going to be very disappointed. Butif you do it for the excitement of opening the chest, the thrill of gambling, and the joy of getting something cool/useful/amusing, and you'll be far less disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasiurus.4067 Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 > @"Deimos.4263" said: > (Full Disclosure: I've opened many thousands of these.) > > This isn't the first "I'm going to open X chests" video I've ever seen, but one thing missing is the excitement of opening each chest. It looks like you're just clicking through the whole stack as fast as you can, not really caring about the stuff, and just hoping to make a profit. I'd advise you (or anyone) not to do that because the vast, vast majority of the time you're going to be very disappointed. > > Butif you do it for the excitement of opening the chest, the thrill of gambling, and the joy of getting something cool/useful/amusing, and you'll be far less disappointed. I agree ! The speed is X2 on video but thats true I was fast, but I always look carefully at what I gain, especially if I see a 4th item :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasiurus.4067 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just opened 25 BLK and looted permanent seller NPC Contract *___* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titje.2745 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > Lot's of interest from BLC are the excitement you get from opening them & hoping to get insane loot like Permanent Contract. > Overall they have never been rentable or lucrative. Unless you got a permanent contract, you can expect to lose some money. would be nice if i ever get a bl chest key for map completion efford. i am busy for map completion for a gift. now completed 4 maps and zero keys. its 20% so next map i have to get one. but i think i have to dream on. will not happen. rng with keys is very bad. but for mount contracts. i had only gems for 1 licence and i got the mount i wanted. 6,6% (1 out of 15) so i dont have to whine so much because this is the best loot i got this year <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasiurus.4067 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 > @"titje.2745" said: > > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > Lot's of interest from BLC are the excitement you get from opening them & hoping to get insane loot like Permanent Contract. > > Overall they have never been rentable or lucrative. Unless you got a permanent contract, you can expect to lose some money. > > would be nice if i ever get a bl chest key for map completion efford. i am busy for map completion for a gift. now completed 4 maps and zero keys. its 20% so next map i have to get one. but i think i have to dream on. will not happen. rng with keys is very bad. > but for mount contracts. i had only gems for 1 licence and i got the mount i wanted. 6,6% (1 out of 15) so i dont have to whine so much because this is the best loot i got this year <3 For map Completion you have 33% chance to drop a Key. You were just unlucky :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > @"titje.2745" said: > > > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > > Lot's of interest from BLC are the excitement you get from opening them & hoping to get insane loot like Permanent Contract. > > > Overall they have never been rentable or lucrative. Unless you got a permanent contract, you can expect to lose some money. > > > > would be nice if i ever get a bl chest key for map completion efford. i am busy for map completion for a gift. now completed 4 maps and zero keys. its 20% so next map i have to get one. but i think i have to dream on. will not happen. rng with keys is very bad. > > but for mount contracts. i had only gems for 1 licence and i got the mount i wanted. 6,6% (1 out of 15) so i dont have to whine so much because this is the best loot i got this year <3 > > For map Completion you have 33% chance to drop a Key. You were just unlucky :( I'm pretty sure it's 20% (or less, in my case...ha ha). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasiurus.4067 Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > > @"titje.2745" said: > > > > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > > > Lot's of interest from BLC are the excitement you get from opening them & hoping to get insane loot like Permanent Contract. > > > > Overall they have never been rentable or lucrative. Unless you got a permanent contract, you can expect to lose some money. > > > > > > would be nice if i ever get a bl chest key for map completion efford. i am busy for map completion for a gift. now completed 4 maps and zero keys. its 20% so next map i have to get one. but i think i have to dream on. will not happen. rng with keys is very bad. > > > but for mount contracts. i had only gems for 1 licence and i got the mount i wanted. 6,6% (1 out of 15) so i dont have to whine so much because this is the best loot i got this year <3 > > > > For map Completion you have 33% chance to drop a Key. You were just unlucky :( > > I'm pretty sure it's 20% (or less, in my case...ha ha). Research on Wiki said it was 33% thanks to data :) I'm very lucky, got around 40 to 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > > > @"titje.2745" said: > > > > > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > > > > Lot's of interest from BLC are the excitement you get from opening them & hoping to get insane loot like Permanent Contract. > > > > > Overall they have never been rentable or lucrative. Unless you got a permanent contract, you can expect to lose some money. > > > > > > > > would be nice if i ever get a bl chest key for map completion efford. i am busy for map completion for a gift. now completed 4 maps and zero keys. its 20% so next map i have to get one. but i think i have to dream on. will not happen. rng with keys is very bad. > > > > but for mount contracts. i had only gems for 1 licence and i got the mount i wanted. 6,6% (1 out of 15) so i dont have to whine so much because this is the best loot i got this year <3 > > > > > > For map Completion you have 33% chance to drop a Key. You were just unlucky :( > > > > I'm pretty sure it's 20% (or less, in my case...ha ha). > > Research on Wiki said it was 33% thanks to data :) I'm very lucky, got around 40 to 50% Odd, the 'Drop Research' page I found on the Wiki states something else: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Map_completion/Drop_Rate Perhaps, I'm looking at the wrong page. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasiurus.4067 Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > > > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > > > > @"titje.2745" said: > > > > > > @"Lasiurus.4067" said: > > > > > > Lot's of interest from BLC are the excitement you get from opening them & hoping to get insane loot like Permanent Contract. > > > > > > Overall they have never been rentable or lucrative. Unless you got a permanent contract, you can expect to lose some money. > > > > > > > > > > would be nice if i ever get a bl chest key for map completion efford. i am busy for map completion for a gift. now completed 4 maps and zero keys. its 20% so next map i have to get one. but i think i have to dream on. will not happen. rng with keys is very bad. > > > > > but for mount contracts. i had only gems for 1 licence and i got the mount i wanted. 6,6% (1 out of 15) so i dont have to whine so much because this is the best loot i got this year <3 > > > > > > > > For map Completion you have 33% chance to drop a Key. You were just unlucky :( > > > > > > I'm pretty sure it's 20% (or less, in my case...ha ha). > > > > Research on Wiki said it was 33% thanks to data :) I'm very lucky, got around 40 to 50% > > Odd, the 'Drop Research' page I found on the Wiki states something else: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Map_completion/Drop_Rate > Perhaps, I'm looking at the wrong page. :confused: My bad, you are right. My apologize. I thought I remember I read it was 33%, a long time ago... apologize :P . And seems I am VERY lucky then, with my 40% drop haha New video of opening 250 chest when new BLK will pop :) (for next Living Story Episode ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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