Jinks.2057 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Finally the PvE crowd comes through to help with the game's balance! I think we can also put to rest the sacrifice to survivability to rest now. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 first is it was the trapper thief now this. may be every class should show case a solo raid boss to balance this game. edit, not a raid boss, but still... stuff like this should not be solo'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAction.9056 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 There was a rev that was not top 250 at all reroll scourge and became top 5. Enough said All POF specs are/were extremely busted except Renegade which was made purposely bad because Rev mains are best at game - True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaga.5174 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Why shouldn't it be able to be solo'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"Vaga.5174" said: > Why shouldn't it be able to be solo'd? Try it ? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"Odik.4587" said: > > @"Vaga.5174" said: > > Why shouldn't it be able to be solo'd? > > Try it ? ;) Incomprehensible! Tis a PvP forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > @"Vaga.5174" said: > > > Why shouldn't it be able to be solo'd? > > > > Try it ? ;) > > Incomprehensible! > > Tis a PvP forum. That was my first impression when i seen this thread but i dont try to find logic here anymore !:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaga.5174 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 So if i try it and cant do it means it shouldn't be soloable? Interesting logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 That video has a lot of weird jump cuts and obscuring images, I wouldn't use it as any sort of reliable indicator of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I dont think 100 cm arkk is meant to be solo, i dont pve like this at all but isnt this meant to be some 5 man high end fractal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"Vaga.5174" said: > So if i try it and cant do it means it shouldn't be soloable? Interesting logic. You not even trying to apply any logic or thing that supposed to be in your 'head' doesnt exist? How challenging mode meant for 5 players SHOULD be solo'd ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaga.5174 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I never said it was meant to be soloable. Meant suggests intent. Just because something is meant to be for a 5 man party, it does not mean it shouldn't be possible to be solo'd. People so up in arms too quickly, appreciate good gameplay when you see it. Lets say its not 100% authentic, you cant deny its impressive gameplay? He deserves some kudos still? Now lets not be cynics, and say it is 100% authentic, people just being unfairly judgemental. To answer your 'should' question, i never even said it should be solo'd. I just merely asked why it shouldn't. One reason i could argue it COULD be solo'd is for challenging solo play that the <1% of players look for in any game. Edit: Grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 TRY to do it with other classes? You were watching video even ? The only thing kept him alive its : barriers ,heals from bloodmagic. You supposed to die if fail that mechanic because its explode for maximum of your health . Pretty much sure point of that thread was :only scourge can do it . But its easy to fix , make oneshot mechanic do 99999 damage so you die no matter what (BUT STILL WHY THIS ON PVP FORUM? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaga.5174 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 If a mechanic of the fractal is intended to kill you if you do not do it, and it does not kill you, then that is not the failure of balance for scourge (as this threads subject suggests), that is a failure of the mechanic. As you say, if that is the intent of the mechanic, then adjust the damage to do 99999 damage to make it compulsory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rap Tiger.1257 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Scourge is not op, if attacked from a distance and with good damage, they die easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halikus.1406 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > Scourge is not op, if attacked from a distance and with good damage, they die easy. LoS says hello... ;) But then again I doubt players nowadays know what that means =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 This is clearly one of the strangest ways to implement a nerf cry for a class in this PvP forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza.2105 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"bravan.3876" said: > This is clearly one of the strangest ways to implement a nerf cry for a class in this PvP forum. Not really, you must not keep up with why things change. When something is overpowered in pve, its changed quickly. Look at firebrand, they nerfed them immediately when they seen the dps they could do on a raid golem. So no its not strange, it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"Aza.2105" said: > > @"bravan.3876" said: > > This is clearly one of the strangest ways to implement a nerf cry for a class in this PvP forum. > > Not really, you must not keep up with why things change. When something is overpowered in pve, its changed quickly. Look at firebrand, they nerfed them immediately when they seen the dps they could do on a raid golem. So no its not strange, it makes sense. But why post in the PvP forum not in PvE where the chance that anet read and care is much higher than in PvP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"bravan.3876" said: > > @"Aza.2105" said: > > > @"bravan.3876" said: > > > This is clearly one of the strangest ways to implement a nerf cry for a class in this PvP forum. > > > > Not really, you must not keep up with why things change. When something is overpowered in pve, its changed quickly. Look at firebrand, they nerfed them immediately when they seen the dps they could do on a raid golem. So no its not strange, it makes sense. > But why post in the PvP forum not in PvE where the chance that anet read and care is much higher than in PvP? > Because last year there was a patch where ghost thief was nerfed a day after a guy posted a video of a ghost thief solo'ing a raid boss. This led to a myth that anything that can solo a pve boss will get nerfed immediately. This myth is of course a false because we know from dev posts that class changes have to finalized a week in advance, so the ghost thief nerf was already locked in before the guy ever posted the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"Crinn.7864" said: > > @"bravan.3876" said: > > > @"Aza.2105" said: > > > > @"bravan.3876" said: > > > > This is clearly one of the strangest ways to implement a nerf cry for a class in this PvP forum. > > > > > > Not really, you must not keep up with why things change. When something is overpowered in pve, its changed quickly. Look at firebrand, they nerfed them immediately when they seen the dps they could do on a raid golem. So no its not strange, it makes sense. > > But why post in the PvP forum not in PvE where the chance that anet read and care is much higher than in PvP? > > > > Because last year there was a patch where ghost thief was nerfed a day after a guy posted a video of a ghost thief solo'ing a raid boss. This led to a myth that anything that can solo a pve boss will get nerfed immediately. This myth is of course a false because we know from dev posts that class changes have to finalized a week in advance, so the ghost thief nerf was already locked in before the guy ever posted the video. I just learned a meme,ty! :astonished: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza.2105 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 > @"bravan.3876" said: > > @"Aza.2105" said: > > > @"bravan.3876" said: > > > This is clearly one of the strangest ways to implement a nerf cry for a class in this PvP forum. > > > > Not really, you must not keep up with why things change. When something is overpowered in pve, its changed quickly. Look at firebrand, they nerfed them immediately when they seen the dps they could do on a raid golem. So no its not strange, it makes sense. > But why post in the PvP forum not in PvE where the chance that anet read and care is much higher than in PvP? > Probably to be a smart ass. Showing how pve takes priority over pvp when it comes to balance. That would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETWING.2759 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Barrier is broked strong on Necros. Requires better scaling with Heal Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Odik.4587" said: > TRY to do it with other classes? You were watching video even ? The only thing kept him alive its : barriers ,heals from bloodmagic. You supposed to die if fail that mechanic because its explode for maximum of your health . > Pretty much sure point of that thread was :only scourge can do it . But its easy to fix , make oneshot mechanic do 99999 damage so you die no matter what > (BUT STILL WHY THIS ON PVP FORUM? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD) Berserker and Soulbeast can also get past that. Tempest and Core Ranger can as well with elite skills. Do all of those also need to be nerfed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks.2057 Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Drarnor Kunoram.5180" said: > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > TRY to do it with other classes? You were watching video even ? The only thing kept him alive its : barriers ,heals from bloodmagic. You supposed to die if fail that mechanic because its explode for maximum of your health . > > Pretty much sure point of that thread was :only scourge can do it . But its easy to fix , make oneshot mechanic do 99999 damage so you die no matter what > > (BUT STILL WHY THIS ON PVP FORUM? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD) > > Berserker and Soulbeast can also get past that. Tempest and Core Ranger can as well with elite skills. Do all of those also need to be nerfed? Please post video evidence of those classes solo'n Arkk. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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