Jerry CCH.9816 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 If you want beat BG just stack SEA guilds. bunch of guilds wipe twice then dodge map :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habanero.4035 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I understand your server name now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 https://wvwstats.com/history/1005/5 https://wvwstats.com/history/1005/6 https://wvwstats.com/history/1005/7 /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother.1504 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Israel.7056" said: > > @"Brother.1504" said: > > > @"Shining One.1635" said: > > > > @"Brother.1504" said: > > > > Here’s the secret to bg success. Bg players love the wvw mode. That’s it. We don’t get demoralized in the sense that you propose. When we get pressed the pugs fight harder, commanders tag up more often, scouts stay up later, guilds get more organized, and so on. I understand how fashionable it is to hate on Blackgate but you can’t demoralize people doing what they love to do. We don’t win every fight but we keep coming back for more. > > > This isn't true. I've personally seen BG stop showing up when they were being dominated. From what I heard/read (but did not witness), BG did the same thing during Maguuma's domination of T1. > > > > > Just the truth but it doesn’t really matter, so many factor contribute to the wvw experience. It’s kind of a running joke on bg that the other servers think of us as a blobbing monster. Like I said bg players love wvw, that’s why we are not always but consistently successful. > > > > The reason BG has been so consistently successful is because the server has consistently attracted people who will do almost anything to win and will press any advantage they get no matter how boring or personally dissatisfying it may be to do so. BG attracts the utterly ruthless win-the-game-at-any-costs types as well as those who are seemingly immune to boredom. The two put together make BG a truly formidable opponent with only one or two obvious weaknesses which very few servers have ever been able to effectively exploit. > > Those two things put together are also what's most lacking in every other server in the game currently and that's why BG always wins. Well, lol. Kinda like the idea that people think bg players are ruthless. But. Honestly again we just love the wvw mode. The guild I’m in ran an April fools day wvw raid with helium voice changers and rabbit ears. Lol. Hardly the ruthless take no prisoners badasses. More like rampaging fun loving goofs. My guild plays wvw a lot because we’re having fun together. We like to win yes but it’s not the be all end all for us. We work to be competitive, no one wants to be a bag, but won’t sacrifice our community minded culture. Shout out to Kinetic Storm (KiS) on Blackgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israel.7056 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Brother.1504" said: > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > @"Brother.1504" said: > > > > @"Shining One.1635" said: > > > > > @"Brother.1504" said: > > > > > Here’s the secret to bg success. Bg players love the wvw mode. That’s it. We don’t get demoralized in the sense that you propose. When we get pressed the pugs fight harder, commanders tag up more often, scouts stay up later, guilds get more organized, and so on. I understand how fashionable it is to hate on Blackgate but you can’t demoralize people doing what they love to do. We don’t win every fight but we keep coming back for more. > > > > This isn't true. I've personally seen BG stop showing up when they were being dominated. From what I heard/read (but did not witness), BG did the same thing during Maguuma's domination of T1. > > > > > > > Just the truth but it doesn’t really matter, so many factor contribute to the wvw experience. It’s kind of a running joke on bg that the other servers think of us as a blobbing monster. Like I said bg players love wvw, that’s why we are not always but consistently successful. > > > > > > > The reason BG has been so consistently successful is because the server has consistently attracted people who will do almost anything to win and will press any advantage they get no matter how boring or personally dissatisfying it may be to do so. BG attracts the utterly ruthless win-the-game-at-any-costs types as well as those who are seemingly immune to boredom. The two put together make BG a truly formidable opponent with only one or two obvious weaknesses which very few servers have ever been able to effectively exploit. > > > > Those two things put together are also what's most lacking in every other server in the game currently and that's why BG always wins. > > Well, lol. Kinda like the idea that people think bg players are ruthless. But. Honestly again we just love the wvw mode. The guild I’m in ran an April fools day wvw raid with helium voice changers and rabbit ears. Lol. Hardly the ruthless take no prisoners badasses. More like rampaging fun loving goofs. My guild plays wvw a lot because we’re having fun together. We like to win yes but it’s not the be all end all for us. We work to be competitive, no one wants to be a bag, but won’t sacrifice our community minded culture. Shout out to Kinetic Storm (KiS) on Blackgate. What I mean is that BG will PPT any chance they get any way they can no matter what they have to do to make it happen including buying guilds to exploit enemy coverage gaps or do server blackouts to get more players on the server when it's full, things like that. Also BG has players who will PPT empty borderlands seemingly for hours and hours at a time which is just mindnumbingly boring for most people but BG attracts the sort of people who can and will do that kinda thing. I wasn't talking about being ruthless in a fight god knows that's not often the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sapphirah.6234 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Brother.1504" said: > Here’s the secret to bg success. Bg players love the wvw mode. That’s it. We don’t get demoralized in the sense that you propose. When we get pressed the pugs fight harder, commanders tag up more often, scouts stay up later, guilds get more organized, and so on. I understand how fashionable it is to hate on Blackgate but you can’t demoralize people doing what they love to do. We don’t win every fight but we keep coming back for more. I tend to agree with this... yup BG can do what they want when they want and clearly they wanted SoS out of T1 that d/t week. We did get in front of them on 2 or 3 other weeks but they just turned up at the end of the week, tightened the screws and that was the end of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest.9472 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 SoS is filled with campers shouting recon instead of banding together to fight. Half of the server just stays inside of the spawn. Of course it feels like BG and YB are ganging up but it simply is SoS being a casual playground of a server. I'd love to join YB or BG considering the fact that I can solo encounters with entire zergs. I called out the SoS leadership and they simply told everyone to spam report me to get me banned. Face it: if you're on SoS, you're not going to enjoy most of WvW lmao. Those sparse moments where a commander actually holds respectable numbers behind them are frequently interrupted by knee-jerk node jumping. The numbers then fade and all that is left are weak roamers and campers shouting recon. Where are the individuals with the confidence to take action? Seems like I am the only person fighting, not that I mind. I can't really be beaten in WvW, not matter the circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israel.7056 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Jerry CCH.9816" said: > If you want beat BG just stack SEA guilds. > bunch of guilds wipe twice then dodge map :/ > Too bad there aren't any good SEA guilds left except the ones on BG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FASTCAR.7831 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Speaking about YB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Israel.7056" said: > > @"Jerry CCH.9816" said: > > If you want beat BG just stack SEA guilds. > > bunch of guilds wipe twice then dodge map :/ > > > > Too bad there aren't any good SEA guilds left except the ones on BG. sotd of dh is still good. =) my guild is late sea to eu. we are only 8 though u.u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israel.7056 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > @"Jerry CCH.9816" said: > > > If you want beat BG just stack SEA guilds. > > > bunch of guilds wipe twice then dodge map :/ > > > > > > > Too bad there aren't any good SEA guilds left except the ones on BG. > sotd of dh is still good. =) > > my guild is late sea to eu. we are only 8 though u.u How do they do against Cookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Israel.7056" said: > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > > @"Jerry CCH.9816" said: > > > > If you want beat BG just stack SEA guilds. > > > > bunch of guilds wipe twice then dodge map :/ > > > > > > > > > > Too bad there aren't any good SEA guilds left except the ones on BG. > > sotd of dh is still good. =) > > > > my guild is late sea to eu. we are only 8 though u.u > > How do they do against Cookie? dunno. whos cookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazzarr.1349 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"guest.9472" said: > SoS is filled with campers shouting recon instead of banding together to fight. Half of the server just stays inside of the spawn. Of course it feels like BG and YB are ganging up but it simply is SoS being a casual playground of a server. I'd love to join YB or BG considering the fact that I can solo encounters with entire zergs. I called out the SoS leadership and they simply told everyone to spam report me to get me banned. Face it: if you're on SoS, you're not going to enjoy most of WvW lmao. Those sparse moments where a commander actually holds respectable numbers behind them are frequently interrupted by knee-jerk node jumping. > > The numbers then fade and all that is left are weak roamers and campers shouting recon. Where are the individuals with the confidence to take action? Seems like I am the only person fighting, not that I mind. I can't really be beaten in WvW, not matter the circumstance. Leadership? We have that? As for spawn sitting... lol, huh? ok then that's big news to me but then again I don't sit at spawn... most people don't that I know of, although many do because some just don't realize you can pip down in OS. Some experiences you had with obviously some odd groups don't represent the whole server. But hey, I'm not trying to sell it. We definitely don't, for the most part, have huge groups all the time, but we do have some nice smaller groups that do like to fight. Can't do it 24x7 but when we do we have fun one way or the other. People I know, and it's a decent number, actually have a lot of fun on SoS. Like most servers it's a nice community with its obvious trolls here and there... but still a lot of fun. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazzarr.1349 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > > > @"Jerry CCH.9816" said: > > > > > If you want beat BG just stack SEA guilds. > > > > > bunch of guilds wipe twice then dodge map :/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too bad there aren't any good SEA guilds left except the ones on BG. > > > sotd of dh is still good. =) > > > > > > my guild is late sea to eu. we are only 8 though u.u > > > > How do they do against Cookie? > > dunno. whos cookie ah... cookie.. apparently the Legend of WvW. A commander better than all commanders... and I don't say that in jest. People I talk to on different servers pretty much all say the same thing. He's VERY good (so the legends go) and if you get the pleasure of meeting up with his band of demons... prepare to die. ... and no I'm not on BG ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremes Guile.1480 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Israel.7056" said: > > @"Eremes Guile.1480" said: > > > @"Shining One.1635" said: > > > > @"Brother.1504" said: > > > > Here’s the secret to bg success. Bg players love the wvw mode. That’s it. We don’t get demoralized in the sense that you propose. When we get pressed the pugs fight harder, commanders tag up more often, scouts stay up later, guilds get more organized, and so on. I understand how fashionable it is to hate on Blackgate but you can’t demoralize people doing what they love to do. We don’t win every fight but we keep coming back for more. > > > This isn't true. I've personally seen BG stop showing up when they were being dominated. From what I heard/read (but did not witness), BG did the same thing during Maguuma's domination of T1. > > > > > > > how long did maguuma "dominated" t1 and ppt? > > like 2 or 3 weeks to beat them down and then 9 straight weeks of nothing happening before almost everyone on Mag either transferred off or quit the game at which point BG slowly started playing again. Did mag have links? I dint play when that happened. I do remember the Bg come back tho. It was satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Balthazzarr.1349" said: > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > > > > @"Jerry CCH.9816" said: > > > > > > If you want beat BG just stack SEA guilds. > > > > > > bunch of guilds wipe twice then dodge map :/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too bad there aren't any good SEA guilds left except the ones on BG. > > > > sotd of dh is still good. =) > > > > > > > > my guild is late sea to eu. we are only 8 though u.u > > > > > > How do they do against Cookie? > > > > dunno. whos cookie > > ah... cookie.. apparently the Legend of WvW. A commander better than all commanders... and I don't say that in jest. People I talk to on different servers pretty much all say the same thing. He's VERY good (so the legends go) and if you get the pleasure of meeting up with his band of demons... prepare to die. ... and no I'm not on BG ;) ok..=) ^.^;; (◞‸◟) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother.1504 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Balthazzarr.1349" said: > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > > > > @"Jerry CCH.9816" said: > > > > > > If you want beat BG just stack SEA guilds. > > > > > > bunch of guilds wipe twice then dodge map :/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too bad there aren't any good SEA guilds left except the ones on BG. > > > > sotd of dh is still good. =) > > > > > > > > my guild is late sea to eu. we are only 8 though u.u > > > > > > How do they do against Cookie? > > > > dunno. whos cookie > > ah... cookie.. apparently the Legend of WvW. A commander better than all commanders... and I don't say that in jest. People I talk to on different servers pretty much all say the same thing. He's VERY good (so the legends go) and if you get the pleasure of meeting up with his band of demons... prepare to die. ... and no I'm not on BG ;) Um. Commander Cookie is basically this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Owq_aBJ9G6Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (´・ω・`) ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Brother.1504" said: > > Um. Commander Cookie is basically this. > > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Owq_aBJ9G6Q > > > So what you are saying is......when pressured, he gets his zerg and runs into their own towers/keeps? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israel.7056 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Eremes Guile.1480" said: > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > @"Eremes Guile.1480" said: > > > > @"Shining One.1635" said: > > > > > @"Brother.1504" said: > > > > > Here’s the secret to bg success. Bg players love the wvw mode. That’s it. We don’t get demoralized in the sense that you propose. When we get pressed the pugs fight harder, commanders tag up more often, scouts stay up later, guilds get more organized, and so on. I understand how fashionable it is to hate on Blackgate but you can’t demoralize people doing what they love to do. We don’t win every fight but we keep coming back for more. > > > > This isn't true. I've personally seen BG stop showing up when they were being dominated. From what I heard/read (but did not witness), BG did the same thing during Maguuma's domination of T1. > > > > > > > > > > how long did maguuma "dominated" t1 and ppt? > > > > like 2 or 3 weeks to beat them down and then 9 straight weeks of nothing happening before almost everyone on Mag either transferred off or quit the game at which point BG slowly started playing again. > > Did mag have links? I dint play when that happened. I do remember the Bg come back tho. It was satisfying. Yeah Mag had a link. No one played when it happened except Visual. I don't know how that could've been satisfying for anyone. I was on BG for over three years and I am still ashamed to have ever been there after that display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israel.7056 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > @"Israel.7056" said: > > > > > @"Jerry CCH.9816" said: > > > > > If you want beat BG just stack SEA guilds. > > > > > bunch of guilds wipe twice then dodge map :/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too bad there aren't any good SEA guilds left except the ones on BG. > > > sotd of dh is still good. =) > > > > > > my guild is late sea to eu. we are only 8 though u.u > > > > How do they do against Cookie? > > dunno. whos cookie He's the main BG sea pin, I rarely see Alex anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 I remember when Disco used to get props as a top commander. Funny how competition, or better the lack thereof does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother.1504 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 As long as we are name dropping sea commanders on bg don’t forget the Bengbus. The pugs love that dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother.1504 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Sleepwalker.1398" said: > > @"Brother.1504" said: > > > > > Um. Commander Cookie is basically this. > > > > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Owq_aBJ9G6Q > > > > > > > > So what you are saying is......when pressured, he gets his zerg and runs into their own towers/keeps? :) Well. Was thinking more along the lines. Against overwhelminging odds Cookie turns the tide of battle. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 > @"Brother.1504" said: > > @"Sleepwalker.1398" said: > > > @"Brother.1504" said: > > > > > > > > Um. Commander Cookie is basically this. > > > > > > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Owq_aBJ9G6Q > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what you are saying is......when pressured, he gets his zerg and runs into their own towers/keeps? :) > > Well. Was thinking more along the lines. Against overwhelminging odds Cookie turns the tide of battle. Lol. Just trolling u mate :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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