Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Apology accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheOyster.5138 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I'm sad that Price had to be let go, but firing Peter Fries is shocking. An employee should never be punished for sticking up for a coworker when facing a backlash on social media -- even if said coworker is in the wrong. This'll have a horrible affect on your work environment in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimaistanza.4793 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I just wanna chime in and say Kudos on this decision Mike. I really respect it and how promptly you responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrolan.9608 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. Whilst I understand your position with Jessica Price I think Peter fries being sacked is rather ridiculous. He didn't 'attack' anyone he merely supported Jessica Price and rather mildly at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky.4861 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Painful though it was, the right decision was made. Neither misandry nor misogyny should be tolerated, especially in full public view. I suspect that JP would not back down from her stance and that is wht got her fired. ANET are a compassionate company who i like to believe gave JP several options. This is of course just my opinion; JP is obviously talented or she wouldn't have been hired in the first place. Her reply to Deroir's post put ANET in a really awkward position; i'm glad to see that ANET didn't tolerate her very obvious and alienating sexism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 To the people who blindly jump to defend her/disagree with her firing: I've been active all day, going as far as slacking at work, to follow and talk about this and I just want to let you know that I don't necessarily agree with the firing. Am I glad it happened? In a way yes. It sets a clear case that this behaviour is not good and will have consequences. Being a jerk happens in the heat of the moment, but that is not an excuse outside of first grade. Am I in favor of witch hunt like campaigns? Nope. And there was none. The people who were actively going after her and attacking her were very few and far between compared to the people whom just hated the way she acted and treated respected members and voiced their disdain. No use just lumping both of those groups together as one and calling them entirely toxic. It's not a good look. In the end those positions can be filled again. Is it going to be good? Time will tell. All we can say right now is that our voices as a community are heard and not ignored. We got together and voiced our opinions. There was no organized hate movement happening. This is humans judging another human based on their bad actions and lack of remorse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calsie.2501 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Thank you Mo. Much respect for making a tough decision and doing the right thing. My confidence is restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hierofantus.3250 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > Mo That is the best news since the whole s-storm started. Congrats on this decision since I imagine it wasn't an easy one, nor was it something I believed you would do. You delivered and assured the majority of the community that their input matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sealreth.1425 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Thanks a lot Mike, When I hear this news and looked at the post I was not sure what would happen to a game I really loved. The fact that racism and sexist is handled no matter what the source and based on facts not emotions. restored any temporal hope I had lost. I can not explain how relieved I am! Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephemiel.5694 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Tasida.4085" said: > > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > > > Mo > > Can we now have all related threads closed now please. Although I disagree with the discipline PLEASE close all the the aggravating threads on this subject and let it fade into obscurity. Yeah, let's allow the fact that people like this exist fade into obscurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leablo.2651 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > Mo In case they are reading, please understand that "personal" social media accounts are part of a public website, and these are not contradictory terms. These conversations were decidedly not private or discreet by any definition. This unfortunate incident and its fallout could have been avoided if they had understood that they are representatives of a company even if they don't intend to act in that capacity. The issue is not being on the clock, it's being on the record. If nothing else, civility exists to avoid giving detractors ammunition to use against you. I hold nothing against people having negative opinions about the community; I can barely stand half of it myself. I merely want to encourage them to exercise better judgment about where and how they share their personal thoughts in the future, wherever that may be. And I assume the remaining Anet staff has been given a refresher on how these things work, and hopefully forestall any more incidents of this nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeywell.6734 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 @Mike O Brien.4613 Thank you for making the right decision. Been playing since GW1 (a bit over a decade or so now). I'm happy this behavior isn't tolerated at a company like arenanet & it made me feel gross knowing money I spent was being distributed to someone as mean spirited as this woman was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNecrosanct.4028 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > To the people who blindly jump to defend her/disagree with her firing: > > I've been active all day, going as far as slacking at work, to follow and talk about this and I just want to let you know that I don't necessarily agree with the firing. Am I glad it happened? In a way yes. It sets a clear case that this behaviour is not good and will have consequences. Being a jerk happens in the heat of the moment, but that is not an excuse outside of first grade. > > Am I in favor of witch hunt like campaigns? Nope. And there was none. The people who were actively going after her and attacking her were very few and far between compared to the people whom just hated the way she acted and treated respected members and voiced their disdain. No use just lumping both of those groups together as one and calling them entirely toxic. It's not a good look. > > In the end those positions can be filled again. Is it going to be good? Time will tell. All we can say right now is that our voices as a community are heard and not ignored. We got together and voiced our opinions. There was no organized hate movement happening. This is humans judging another human based on their bad actions and lack of remorse. I can't applaude this statement enough. A very accurate description of all that has been going on today. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irokou.3215 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I think this is actually quite simple. Employees should not fear expressing their opinion but MUST do so in a tactful manner. If you uphold yourself in a spiteful and imposing demeanor for months if not years on end, you provide a negative impression upon your company and put your own employment at risk. Some people simply must realize that this delusional mindset of "I am innocent because of minority status" is in many cases a scapegoat for denying one's own wrongdoings. Be an adult and own up to your actions and mistakes rather than posing as a tyrant on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks.2478 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Thank you for this, I had no expectations of this from you. I am going to be honest I expected a milquetoast PR response and was pleasantly surprised and glad to be wrong. This is the kind of strong and decisive leadership arenanet needs to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starhunter.6015 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"FearTheOyster.5138" said: > I'm sad that Price had to be let go, but firing Peter Fries is shocking. An employee should never be punished for sticking up for a coworker when facing a backlash on social media -- even if said coworker is in the wrong. This'll have a horrible affect on your work environment in the long run. Sorta of agree, but fired for sticking up no. But should be held accountable and reprimanded yes. Then given a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor.9863 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"narcx.3570" said: > I'm kinda bummed she got fired... I mean, she was in the wrong here, but so was that guy. > > She should have been more professional yes, but it's still ANOTHER day where I have to see the men's rights activist crowd get a win. I live in America and I have to see this type of stuff oozing out of the White House everyday--it sucks that it invaded my sweet sanctuary of videah games too. How was that guy in the wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmpgamer.9628 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 MO did the right thing. Take gender and work experience out of the equation. Would you want to keep an employee who explodes at simple criticisms and questions? Imagine if she was a waitress and acted that way to you because you asked to have your steak medium-well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunateric.3708 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I'm glad this was handled swiftly and decisively, I'm also glad the whole situation brought us as a community together, specially over Reddit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekfan.3179 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I'm glad Arenanet is upholding a certain standard in community interaction. I've been playing this game since the beta and never before have I seen such a unprofessional behaviour from a dev. For the future I'm looking forward to the usual interaction with professional individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxsdgxX.8109 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Outstanding ANET :+1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkantorXKiller.4362 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > Mo You are the best Mo!!!~ Thank you <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irokou.3215 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Faffin.6741" said: > > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > > > Mo > > Maybe this was company policy before the event, but it still looks like you're pandering to a bunch of sad puppies. I firmly disagree. If anything allowing for her to retain employment would be pandering to the sensitive crowd who assumes that she was "an abused woman." As an adult, one must understand that there are consequences for your actions and playing the victim does not make you invincible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"michelada.2947" said: > i'm afraid that anet devs will be even more silent after this incident, communication need to be on both sides Communication sure.. but there's a big difference communication and abuse.. the latter is very easy to avoid tbh.. well for most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithis.3564 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Faffin.6741" said: > > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > > > Mo > > Maybe this was company policy before the event, but it still looks like you're pandering to a bunch of sad puppies. What pandering? Insulting people is ok? She INSULTED someone for NOTHING! Repeatedly! She was one one who started it to begin with. If I did the same in my job I would be fired also. People these days are unbelivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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