Why is superspeed not faster than swiftness?

[Sinful.2165]

So I've been testing my superspeed vs a guild mate with swiftness in the open world and it's the same speed.

 

The wiki states superspeed is 100% movement speed while swiftness is only 33% so is this just a well known and ignored bug?

[Ashantara.8731]

Maybe you applied the same speed on both of you as a shared boon, hence there was no visible difference?

[Lost Dimension.9014]

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Movement_Speed

 

"Movement Speed increases do not stack with each other—only the greatest value takes effect. For example, a character under the effect of Signet of Air (+25%) and swiftness (+33%) will only move 33% faster. Maximum movement speed is universally capped at 400 units per second; this translates to 136% of base out-of-combat speed, but 190% of base in-combat speed. As such, the capped movement speed can be achieved out-of-combat with a mere 40% movement speed increase, whereas in-combat this requires a 100% increase i.e. Superspeed. Superspeed only makes use of its full 100% increase while in combat. "

 

You can only use superspeed full potential in combat. Out of combat have a movement speed limit.

[Sinful.2165]

Hm, alright. I didn't realize that's how it works. ;) thank you

[Ashantara.8731]

> @"Lost Dimension.9014" said:

> "Movement Speed increases do not stack with each other [...]

 

That wasn't the OP's question, though. ;)

[Lost Dimension.9014]

> @"Ashantara.8731" said:

> > @"Lost Dimension.9014" said:

> > "Movement Speed increases do not stack with each other [...]

>

> That wasn't the OP's question, though. ;)

 

"Maximum movement speed is universally capped at 400 units per second; this translates to 136% of base out-of-combat speed, but 190% of base in-combat speed. As such, the capped movement speed can be achieved out-of-combat with a mere 40% movement speed increase, whereas in-combat this requires a 100% increase i.e. Superspeed. Superspeed only makes use of its full 100% increase while in combat. "

 

Happy now?

[Knighthonor.4061]

> @"Lost Dimension.9014" said:

> > @"Ashantara.8731" said:

> > > @"Lost Dimension.9014" said:

> > > "Movement Speed increases do not stack with each other [...]

> >

> > That wasn't the OP's question, though. ;)

>

> "Maximum movement speed is universally capped at 400 units per second; this translates to 136% of base out-of-combat speed, but 190% of base in-combat speed. As such, the capped movement speed can be achieved out-of-combat with a mere 40% movement speed increase, whereas in-combat this requires a 100% increase i.e. Superspeed. Superspeed only makes use of its full 100% increase while in combat. "

>

> Happy now?

 

whats 400 Units? I think that part is what confuses me. Whats a unit?

[Lost Dimension.9014]

> @"Knighthonor.4061" said:

> > @"Lost Dimension.9014" said:

> > > @"Ashantara.8731" said:

> > > > @"Lost Dimension.9014" said:

> > > > "Movement Speed increases do not stack with each other [...]

> > >

> > > That wasn't the OP's question, though. ;)

> >

> > "Maximum movement speed is universally capped at 400 units per second; this translates to 136% of base out-of-combat speed, but 190% of base in-combat speed. As such, the capped movement speed can be achieved out-of-combat with a mere 40% movement speed increase, whereas in-combat this requires a 100% increase i.e. Superspeed. Superspeed only makes use of its full 100% increase while in combat. "

> >

> > Happy now?

>

> whats 400 Units? I think that part is what confuses me. Whats a unit?

 

According to wiki, it would be range units. You see the range number on your skills? You can use that as a guide on how far the travel distance is.

[Cyninja.2954]

> @"Knighthonor.4061" said:

> > @"Lost Dimension.9014" said:

> > > @"Ashantara.8731" said:

> > > > @"Lost Dimension.9014" said:

> > > > "Movement Speed increases do not stack with each other [...]

> > >

> > > That wasn't the OP's question, though. ;)

> >

> > "Maximum movement speed is universally capped at 400 units per second; this translates to 136% of base out-of-combat speed, but 190% of base in-combat speed. As such, the capped movement speed can be achieved out-of-combat with a mere 40% movement speed increase, whereas in-combat this requires a 100% increase i.e. Superspeed. Superspeed only makes use of its full 100% increase while in combat. "

> >

> > Happy now?

>

> whats 400 Units? I think that part is what confuses me. Whats a unit?

 

Right in the wiki, just click on units and it leads to: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Range

 

> Range is a property of many skills that defines the distance at which a skill can successfully connect to its target. The radius or area of effect define area over which a skill's effects are applied. Distance is defined in terms of units, which are essentially equivalent to inches.

 

Units are a measurement of range in the game. All skill distances are measured in units, thus x units per second is the equivalent distance traveled in 1 second.

 

TC was essentially asking why he subjectively does not feel a difference between swiftness and super-speed. Lost Dimension correctly refereed to the wiki which explains the mechanic behind the movement system (and its limitations), essentially providing an answer to the underlying question of TC.

[Khisanth.2948]

That speed limit actually translate to 22.73 mph or 36.58 kph. Looks like outrunning a centaur might not be possible ... http://www.speedofanimals.com/animals/horse

[ROMANG.1903]

When you are out of combat, Superspeed gives the same boost as Swiftness. The difference is that Superspeed ignores the reduced in-combat speed, while Swiftness takes it in account.

[Eloc Freidon.5692]

I've read that movement speed caps out of combat at 33% and that SS only works in combat. So because of in combat movement slow down anyways its outrageously underwhelming.