whoknocks.4935 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I don't know how much about zerg fights, but now roaming seems pretty stupid, I had the 30% bloodlust bonus on my full zerk spellbreaker and I won a 1v4 landing 10k full counters. Opposite case casual encounters 1vs1, if the enemy got the buff and you not, 90% he wins and you lose even if he is a worse player than you. Seems completely the opposite of downed state where the skillful gameplay was promoted, now who got the higher bloodlust wins. Can't wait to see those 50-60k rapid fires or malicious backstabs. What do you guys think as first impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosmaster.8263 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Enjoy your week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Solution: Capture ruins and make your team win. You can solo it, gogogo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrath.1754 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 It seems like Anet doesnt really get the issues in WvW. Do none of the devs play it or they just prefer low TTK CoD head shot game play? There will be some great 1 shot montage videos on YouTube that should really encourage new or players looking into the game to want to WvW. It's a bit like when ESO created the gear proc meta, these companies dont seem to really understand what people tend to enjoy about the content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 > @"Vrath.1754" said: > It seems like Anet doesnt really get the issues in WvW. Do none of the devs play it or they just prefer low TTK CoD head shot game play? > > There will be some great 1 shot montage videos on YouTube that should really encourage new or players looking into the game to want to WvW. > It's a bit like when ESO created the gear proc meta, these companies dont seem to really understand what people tend to enjoy about the content. The devs are playing. in fact, they are live right now on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 > @"whoknocks.4935" said: > I don't know how much about zerg fights, but now roaming seems pretty stupid, I had the 30% bloodlust bonus on my full zerk spellbreaker and I won a 1v4 landing 10k full counters. > > Opposite case casual encounters 1vs1, if the enemy got the buff and you not, 90% he wins and you lose even if he is a worse player than you. > > Seems completely the opposite of downed state where the skillful gameplay was promoted, now who got the higher bloodlust wins. > > Can't wait to see those 50-60k rapid fires or malicious backstabs. > > What do you guys think as first impact? Uh, as opposed to whatever group frontloaded the most damage to down people first win during no downed state week? No. This is exactly the same. If you liked no downed state, deal with it. Personally I dislike it for the exact same reason bloodlust was nerfed in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felincyriac.5981 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Expect more DE bs than usual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoknocks.4935 Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > @"whoknocks.4935" said: > > I don't know how much about zerg fights, but now roaming seems pretty stupid, I had the 30% bloodlust bonus on my full zerk spellbreaker and I won a 1v4 landing 10k full counters. > > > > Opposite case casual encounters 1vs1, if the enemy got the buff and you not, 90% he wins and you lose even if he is a worse player than you. > > > > Seems completely the opposite of downed state where the skillful gameplay was promoted, now who got the higher bloodlust wins. > > > > Can't wait to see those 50-60k rapid fires or malicious backstabs. > > > > What do you guys think as first impact? > > Uh, as opposed to whatever group frontloaded the most damage to down people first win during no downed state week? > > No. This is exactly the same. If you liked no downed state, deal with it. > > Personally I dislike it for the exact same reason bloodlust was nerfed in the first place. In the week of no downed state a good small coordinated group could take down a much larger one without "garbage" players being ressed by rally bots, I myself won so many 1vs2s during that week, because alone sometimes it's just Im possible to stomp or cleave when you are outnumbered. But now even a bad player with the buff can kill you in 1vs1. Myself personally not being that strong player i easily won a 1vs4 against normal players which I didn't deserve to win at all because i had the 30% buff and them nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 > @"whoknocks.4935" said: > But now even a bad player with the buff can kill you in 1vs1. It doesnt magically make bad players better players even with the stat boost. If you are fighting 1v1 so close that even a bad player could have killed you with a little stat boost... yeah... people argued l2p during no downed week too. The. Exact. Same. Thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 The 30% boost affects your defensive stats too. Toughness vitality healing. Just stack more of those this week to reduce the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferus.3165 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 bad server linking so our maps are almost always outnumbered, even 2 hour after reset... one double server has permanently all three ruin buffs and far more people... you can imagine what is going to happen. I will sit this week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
googel.3278 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 > @"Vrath.1754" said: > It seems like Anet doesnt really get the issues in WvW. Do none of the devs play it or they just prefer low TTK CoD head shot game play? > > There will be some great 1 shot montage videos on YouTube that should really encourage new or players looking into the game to want to WvW. > It's a bit like when ESO created the gear proc meta, these companies dont seem to really understand what people tend to enjoy about the content. Devs playing WvW? I would hunt them down til the end of time! Lets see if they like these updates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Wasn't roaming already random or did I miss something? D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duillyn.2697 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 It's going to be a longggg week for Piken Square. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Was a surprise to see this, and even more surprise to see the insane stat boosts if getting 2 bl. Maybe they could have done 5/10/20% rather than 5/15/30%. If a server is dominating and manages to hold all three it's an insane advantage, player for player. We got the 15% for a short time and was satisfying to see the ridiculous stat boosts on the equipment screen. But it's ok, being on a losing server this time so barely getting the 5% or nothing. :/ Still, didn't have a problem going 0 or 5% against players with the 15%, although haven't yet gone against the 30% which may be excessive - dunno haven't had the experience to judge. Seemed to be pulling more fights and action around ruins which is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Ben Phongluangtham.1065 Posted September 29, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted September 29, 2018 > @"googel.3278" said: > > @"Vrath.1754" said: > > It seems like Anet doesnt really get the issues in WvW. Do none of the devs play it or they just prefer low TTK CoD head shot game play? > > > > There will be some great 1 shot montage videos on YouTube that should really encourage new or players looking into the game to want to WvW. > > It's a bit like when ESO created the gear proc meta, these companies dont seem to really understand what people tend to enjoy about the content. > > Devs playing WvW? I would hunt them down til the end of time! Lets see if they like these updates! We play on stream every week at 2:30 PM PDT. Come get us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowcat.2680 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 The disparity between the stats, between your own and an enemy's, is irksome so far. If your server is not currently able to hold a bloodlust from the standpoint of numbers, then you end up facing enemies with a 15% or 30% buff to all their stats while your own are as if there is no event taking place. The end result is that you do less damage to enemies (they have 15%/30% more toughness and vitality) while taking more damage yourself due to their boosted damage stats, including stats like ferocity that are typically unaffected by bloodlust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawsm.5398 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Bluntly, this seems idiotic. Like Dawdler (and others I'm sure), I remember when Bloodlust use to be +50 to the affected stats for each borderland map it was captured on. Since apparently a 150 point bonus was too much, I don't know what brain surgeon thought a 30% boost (to even more stats than usual) was the way to go. Perhaps until more is done to actually mitigate the problems with population imbalances, events that give this much of a potential boost to the servers that can field greater numbers should be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoknocks.4935 Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > @"whoknocks.4935" said: > > But now even a bad player with the buff can kill you in 1vs1. > > It doesnt magically make bad players better players even with the stat boost. If you are fighting 1v1 so close that even a bad player could have killed you with a little stat boost... yeah... people argued l2p during no downed week too. The. Exact. Same. Thing. Well try face a zerk soulbeast under 30% boost. That is already a pretty cheap noob friendly roaming spec, same as my spellbreaker hitting up to 10k full counters. If you fail one single dodge or defensive ability even a bad player by spamming can kill you in few seconds. Reaper autos under 30% buff will be maybe up to 10-15k. But I expect even more lord hizen deadeyes aroud the map who bypass even passive traits with 50k oneshots. We will see. Never argued about l2p during no downed, I repeat it was completely opposite. It happens so frequently you are about to win an outnumber 1vs2 getting one of the guys downed and you can't stomp or cleave because the ress healing is way higher then your cleaving damage, he get ressed and they kill you... pretty stupid mechanic. During no downed state 'skill' was indeed the main factor. Now it's: who got the better buff wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Oh forgot this was suppose to be this week. /grabs popcorn Make some good stories this week gais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSeed.3528 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 It's more or less like NDS week, just enjoy it guys - make all your montage videos while you can XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim West.3194 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 It's only for a week. And it's something different. Game mode is stale so it's great to have a change even if it wrecks gameplay. Plus it gives the devs info on possible changes in the future. Hope they do more of these. Would be nice if they didn't reward the bandwagoners all the time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 So far I really like it. Roamers are more important than ever. If you have a small part of your group dedicated to capping ruins all the time you can effectively manage where your enemy is going while you take their stuff elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosmaster.8263 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > > @"googel.3278" said: > > > @"Vrath.1754" said: > > > It seems like Anet doesnt really get the issues in WvW. Do none of the devs play it or they just prefer low TTK CoD head shot game play? > > > > > > There will be some great 1 shot montage videos on YouTube that should really encourage new or players looking into the game to want to WvW. > > > It's a bit like when ESO created the gear proc meta, these companies dont seem to really understand what people tend to enjoy about the content. > > > > Devs playing WvW? I would hunt them down til the end of time! Lets see if they like these updates! > > We play on stream every week at 2:30 PM PDT. Come get us. Make sure you're tagged up so you can easily be targeted, lol. Have fun too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativity.3057 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > Solution: Capture ruins and make your team win. You can solo it, gogogo but you can't solo it :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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