Linken.6345 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 > @"phs.6089" said: > OK, I have one question left. > Why UnIDs are still salvable? > I know of invis bags etc. I just wonder why they are salvable, no other bag with gear is. > Previously the salvage result could get you eyes of kornir and brandspark, now its gone. > Maybe Arena.NET can look at this? Becouse its not really a bag of gear its a item you dont know what it is, so can be salavaged. If you like to compare it to something its the salvage items. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage_item > @"BlueJin.4127" said: > Now that I had some time with this... I REALLY don’t like this change. > > Before: > 1) Salvage all greens and lower > 2) Salvage all rares > > Now: > 1) Look for blue unID stack > 2) ID blue stack > 3) Look for green unID stack > 4) ID green stack > 5) Salvage all greens and lower > 6) Look for rare unID stack > 7) Look harder because rare unID stack is hard to find for some kitten reason > 8) ID rare stack > 9) Salvage all rares > > Awful... Easy fix for your rare problem type rare in your bags search bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phs.6089 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"phs.6089" said: > > OK, I have one question left. > > Why UnIDs are still salvable? > > I know of invis bags etc. I just wonder why they are salvable, no other bag with gear is. > > Previously the salvage result could get you eyes of kornir and brandspark, now its gone. > > Maybe Arena.NET can look at this? > > Becouse its not really a bag of gear its a item you dont know what it is, so can be salavaged. > If you like to compare it to something its the salvage items. > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage_item They are just salvagable items. After update UnIDs lost the meaning to be slavaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 > @"phs.6089" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > OK, I have one question left. > > > Why UnIDs are still salvable? > > > I know of invis bags etc. I just wonder why they are salvable, no other bag with gear is. > > > Previously the salvage result could get you eyes of kornir and brandspark, now its gone. > > > Maybe Arena.NET can look at this? > > > > Becouse its not really a bag of gear its a item you dont know what it is, so can be salavaged. > > If you like to compare it to something its the salvage items. > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage_item > > They are just salvagable items. After update UnIDs lost the meaning to be slavaged unid's are just salvageable items you just dont know if its a heavy, medium, light armor, weapon or trinkets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phs.6089 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > OK, I have one question left. > > > > Why UnIDs are still salvable? > > > > I know of invis bags etc. I just wonder why they are salvable, no other bag with gear is. > > > > Previously the salvage result could get you eyes of kornir and brandspark, now its gone. > > > > Maybe Arena.NET can look at this? > > > > > > Becouse its not really a bag of gear its a item you dont know what it is, so can be salavaged. > > > If you like to compare it to something its the salvage items. > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage_item > > > > They are just salvagable items. After update UnIDs lost the meaning to be slavaged > > unid's are just salvageable items you just dont know if its a heavy, medium, light armor, weapon or trinkets Same as those, you mean? https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Masterwork_Gear https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Rare_Gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuhell.2759 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 > @"Rasimir.6239" said: > Almost seems like "who can open the most chests per playtime" isn't ANet's vision for how people play this game ... And yet all the latest maps give most of the rewards via chests, and they also nerfed the amount of champions at Istan. The last LS reward for the two meta is all about giving chests with rare unId bags. So they seems quite fine in putting rewards in there...well knowing that MF will be useless with those. By the way, there have been diminishing return for farming monsters for a long time as well, so it seems like ANet's vision is more about players not using their MF at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelyNeli.4516 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Its a giant nerf to the farm on PoF maps. Now Unids are twice or three times cheaper than before... I was selling green ones for 6-7 silvers, and blues for 3-4 silvers, now green are for about 2s and blue at 1.2s. Also they drop with the same frequency on PoF maps as before but the drop from them when you open them is WAY smaller than it used to and this directly affected the price on those. I have left these maps and gone back to the HoTs maps they are more profitable i am telling you, it screwed me over a big time since my MF is poor at 90% and was dropping and selling unid gear bags mainly for profit, which does not exist anymore, i have no idea where to make gold now. Worst update i experienced in my GW2 experience, why not just let unid gear drop and still allow it to be affected by MF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 > @"phs.6089" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > OK, I have one question left. > > > > > Why UnIDs are still salvable? > > > > > I know of invis bags etc. I just wonder why they are salvable, no other bag with gear is. > > > > > Previously the salvage result could get you eyes of kornir and brandspark, now its gone. > > > > > Maybe Arena.NET can look at this? > > > > > > > > Becouse its not really a bag of gear its a item you dont know what it is, so can be salavaged. > > > > If you like to compare it to something its the salvage items. > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage_item > > > > > > They are just salvagable items. After update UnIDs lost the meaning to be slavaged > > > > unid's are just salvageable items you just dont know if its a heavy, medium, light armor, weapon or trinkets > > Same as those, you mean? > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Masterwork_Gear > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Rare_Gear Nope those are gear bags its the same as https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unstable_Metal_Chunk You dont know what metal you get. Edit Do you see any unidentifed bag of gear droping anywere? Notice the word BAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phs.6089 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > > OK, I have one question left. > > > > > > Why UnIDs are still salvable? > > > > > > I know of invis bags etc. I just wonder why they are salvable, no other bag with gear is. > > > > > > Previously the salvage result could get you eyes of kornir and brandspark, now its gone. > > > > > > Maybe Arena.NET can look at this? > > > > > > > > > > Becouse its not really a bag of gear its a item you dont know what it is, so can be salavaged. > > > > > If you like to compare it to something its the salvage items. > > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage_item > > > > > > > > They are just salvagable items. After update UnIDs lost the meaning to be slavaged > > > > > > unid's are just salvageable items you just dont know if its a heavy, medium, light armor, weapon or trinkets > > > > Same as those, you mean? > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Masterwork_Gear > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Rare_Gear > > Nope those are gear bags its the same as https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unstable_Metal_Chunk > You dont know what metal you get. > Edit > Do you see any unidentifed bag of gear droping anywere? > Notice the word BAG Salvagable items don't drop gear. They are just to be slavaged. UnIDs drop gear, just like bags of gear, whatever they called, they are bags with gear in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasimir.6239 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 > @"Manuhell.2759" said: > By the way, there have been diminishing return for farming monsters for a long time as well, so it seems like ANet's vision is more about players not using their MF at all. Just playing the game you rarely stay in one place long enough for DR to kick in, so it's a non-issue for most people. It is an issue for those that prefer to farm, as regular farming grinds (as known from other games) don't give increased gains in GW2, but I suspect that while those players are very vocal, they are actually not a large part of the whole playerbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 > @"phs.6089" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > > > OK, I have one question left. > > > > > > > Why UnIDs are still salvable? > > > > > > > I know of invis bags etc. I just wonder why they are salvable, no other bag with gear is. > > > > > > > Previously the salvage result could get you eyes of kornir and brandspark, now its gone. > > > > > > > Maybe Arena.NET can look at this? > > > > > > > > > > > > Becouse its not really a bag of gear its a item you dont know what it is, so can be salavaged. > > > > > > If you like to compare it to something its the salvage items. > > > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage_item > > > > > > > > > > They are just salvagable items. After update UnIDs lost the meaning to be slavaged > > > > > > > > unid's are just salvageable items you just dont know if its a heavy, medium, light armor, weapon or trinkets > > > > > > Same as those, you mean? > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Masterwork_Gear > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Rare_Gear > > > > Nope those are gear bags its the same as https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unstable_Metal_Chunk > > You dont know what metal you get. > > Edit > > Do you see any unidentifed bag of gear droping anywere? > > Notice the word BAG > > Salvagable items don't drop gear. They are just to be slavaged. > UnIDs drop gear, just like bags of gear, whatever they called, they are bags with gear in it. No its a unidentified item so no it dont drop gear it is the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phs.6089 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > > > > OK, I have one question left. > > > > > > > > Why UnIDs are still salvable? > > > > > > > > I know of invis bags etc. I just wonder why they are salvable, no other bag with gear is. > > > > > > > > Previously the salvage result could get you eyes of kornir and brandspark, now its gone. > > > > > > > > Maybe Arena.NET can look at this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Becouse its not really a bag of gear its a item you dont know what it is, so can be salavaged. > > > > > > > If you like to compare it to something its the salvage items. > > > > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage_item > > > > > > > > > > > > They are just salvagable items. After update UnIDs lost the meaning to be slavaged > > > > > > > > > > unid's are just salvageable items you just dont know if its a heavy, medium, light armor, weapon or trinkets > > > > > > > > Same as those, you mean? > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Masterwork_Gear > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Rare_Gear > > > > > > Nope those are gear bags its the same as https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unstable_Metal_Chunk > > > You dont know what metal you get. > > > Edit > > > Do you see any unidentifed bag of gear droping anywere? > > > Notice the word BAG > > > > Salvagable items don't drop gear. They are just to be slavaged. > > UnIDs drop gear, just like bags of gear, whatever they called, they are bags with gear in it. > > No its a unidentified item so no it dont drop gear it is the gear. Where are you getting with this? I'm askin why it's still salvable. The purpose have been lost. No more eye of kormir and brandsparks. And it acts as bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dami.5046 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 The only point is to nerf farming, so people don't buy gold for gems, no more no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasimir.6239 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 > @"phs.6089" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > > > > > > > OK, I have one question left. > > > > > > > > > Why UnIDs are still salvable? > > > > > > > > > I know of invis bags etc. I just wonder why they are salvable, no other bag with gear is. > > > > > > > > > Previously the salvage result could get you eyes of kornir and brandspark, now its gone. > > > > > > > > > Maybe Arena.NET can look at this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Becouse its not really a bag of gear its a item you dont know what it is, so can be salavaged. > > > > > > > > If you like to compare it to something its the salvage items. > > > > > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage_item > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are just salvagable items. After update UnIDs lost the meaning to be slavaged > > > > > > > > > > > > unid's are just salvageable items you just dont know if its a heavy, medium, light armor, weapon or trinkets > > > > > > > > > > Same as those, you mean? > > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Masterwork_Gear > > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_of_Rare_Gear > > > > > > > > Nope those are gear bags its the same as https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unstable_Metal_Chunk > > > > You dont know what metal you get. > > > > Edit > > > > Do you see any unidentifed bag of gear droping anywere? > > > > Notice the word BAG > > > > > > Salvagable items don't drop gear. They are just to be slavaged. > > > UnIDs drop gear, just like bags of gear, whatever they called, they are bags with gear in it. > > > > No its a unidentified item so no it dont drop gear it is the gear. > > Where are you getting with this? I'm askin why it's still salvable. > The purpose have been lost. No more eye of kormir and brandsparks. > And it acts as bag. I actually do know people that prefer to salvage the unidentified gear directly, despite the fact that you get more value out of them if you do identify them first. To them, the convenience of treating them like a salvage item rather than like a piece of gear is more valuable than the straight gold value you get from dealing with identifying and sorting through the gear. Basically unidentified gear is a hybrid item that is both a salvage item and a bag of gear, and it's the player's choice to treat it as one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leablo.2651 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 On the QoL side of things, this implementation seems to have failed expectations. The reason being that only L80 gear gets converted to unidentified. But L80 characters receive a range of gear, frequently L75+. So only a fraction of the incoming loot actually gets converted. The rest continues to fill up bag space with hardly any slowdown. In relation to how much value was taken away by this change, it doesn't seem like a fair tradeoff. Here are some suggestions to bring things in line. * For blue and green (and maybe yellow), change the output of unidentified gear to the same range that L80 players can receive as drops. Remove these drops from the table and convert them to unidentified gear. * Exotic items remain as-is, since L80 exotics can still be relevant for endgame gear or unique weapon skins. * Add a Basic Unidentified Gear drop for white items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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