Daddicus.6128 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I've noticed that there is an incredibly active market for medallions. The prices for buy and sell are nearly always a copper apart. And, there are always hundreds being bought at that price. But, I can't figure out what they're being used for. What do people do with all those things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG.6389 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I might be wrong but I have a feeling that you meant [Crests. ](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crest "Crests. ") Have a quick look through [here.](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Amalgamated_Gemstone/Recipes "Have a quick look through here.") These things are used in the recipes on this page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Nah, Medallions have a solid market as well. Mostly they're MFed I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > Nah, Medallions have a solid market as well. Mostly they're MFed I expect. Yes. There's a tiny chance that you can get an Amalgamated Gemstone and you have a 20% chance that they'll upgrade to a Crest or Orb-level gemstone, which have their own market since they directly convert to AmGems. If you choose your buy offers and sell listings carefully, it's a tiny, steady profit, almost risk free (just tedious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 It never seems very active when I try to buy them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddicus.6128 Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 > @"MikeG.6389" said: > I might be wrong but I have a feeling that you meant [Crests. ](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crest "Crests. ") Have a quick look through [here.](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Amalgamated_Gemstone/Recipes "Have a quick look through here.") These things are used in the recipes on this page. No, I definitely mean medallions. The brown ones with a yellowish symbol in the middle. Medallion of the Rabid right now has a buy price of 2s 88c and a sell price of 2s 89c. There are 4405 offers at 2.88 and 447 offers at 2.89. Refresh (in the time I took to write this paragraph, maybe 15-30 seconds) shows 17 bought and 2 more offered for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddicus.6128 Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 Mystic Forging them might explain it. Amalgamated Gemstones are over a gold each. What really interested me the most is that the buyers frequently skip to one copper below the sell price, and they buy thousands at a time. The aforementioned Rabid has another 500+ at one copper lower, and then it drops a whole silver and change. I think some people are still fooled by the reversal of the terms "buyer" and "seller" for the columns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddicus.6128 Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 I just did a test with a dozen sets, and the wiki's percentages are pretty accurate. I got 8 tier 5 items and 4 tier 6. However, the wiki doesn't mention the chance of getting an amalgamated gemstone. **Is that an error (on the wiki)?** (I didn't either, but in only a dozen tests, that's not surprising.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 > @"Daddicus.6128" said: > I just did a test with a dozen sets, and the wiki's percentages are pretty accurate. I got 8 tier 5 items and 4 tier 6. > > However, the wiki doesn't mention the chance of getting an amalgamated gemstone. **Is that an error (on the wiki)?** (I didn't either, but in only a dozen tests, that's not surprising.) It's not an "error;" there's just no place to mention it, since it's one of those once-in-a-blue-moon situations. It's on the talk pages * https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Talk:Amalgamated_Gemstone#4_Crystals_rates, which in turn points to * https://redd.it/4glfnn, which has its data source at * https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12cthZUVC9M-UC3YATnqRmNPJoBRCTbK1meOpiTLU7dY/pubhtml **tl;dr The drop rate was around ~3%.** Gory details: * Researcher bought 8000 crystals (which work the same as medallions for our purposes). * Any T5 drops were reforged; T6 drops were forged into AmGems (requiring purchase of crystalline dust) * Total of 2500 forges (2000+extra rolls, per previous bullet) * Entire process took them nearly _four hours_ (not including breaks to stretch their fingers, oil the mouse) * At 2016 prices, they made well over 40 gold an hour. (~~I'll add their data to my spreadsheet to come up with an estimate using 2019 market values, brb~~). * **UPDATE:** With 2019 prices, it looks as if it's closer to 11-12g/hour (mostly because AmGems are a gold cheaper than 3 years ago, with orbs correspondingly less, too) Caution: before trying this at home, recognize that this requires the law of large numbers working for you. Unless you're extremely lucky, you really do need to invest 3-4 hours (more than 2k forges, more than 9k clicks) to make sure you're getting a steady stream of AmGems. Also, the initial investment for this sample is worth ~232 gold (interestingly, that's hardly changed since 2016, when it was ~229g). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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