Elxdark.9702 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @ZhouX.8742 said: > > @Elxdark.9702 said: > > Incredible to see the day where rangers were so used to their pets to do their main damage and crying over a clearly bugged pet that does more than a backstab steal combo. > > Same happened with Bristleback and they nerfed it because it was doing crazy damage, smokescale does about 50% damage alone just from AA while the ranger just spam ccs on you. > > > > I miss the pre hot times where you actually had to use your pet to timing your f2 with your dps rotation, fear, immobilize, stun etc. > > Now it's spam ccs and let your pet do the damage for you. > > > > Pets are supposed to help the rangers, not to do their job but Anet failed to realize this and look now, players crying over because they will nerf their main damage which comes from a freaking pet. > > You want to go back to condi spirit builds that bad? Or passive BM builds that bad? Sorry , the skill ceiling on ranger is much much higher than it ever was with those 2 disgusting metas for ranger. Sorry. > > Around this time too s/d thief was absolutely and utterly broken, you don't remember that though do you ;) Passive BM builds were stupid I agree, spirits don't have anything to do with pets tho. What I meant was for power ranger which I played a lot before hot where your main damage was your dps and the pet was there just to help you to land that damage. Druid is totally the opposite, **you** help the pet to land the damage. And now Soulbeast is a kind of hybrid where you and your pet do the damage but there's no way gazelle hitting for 5k-8k is fine, I'll start to taking screenshots because I know people like to see evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kKagari.6804 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. I thought you told me earlier that you can achieve that damage if you have a lot of setup. Like I said, I was downed instantly in the PvP area of HotM. Respectfully, I'm not sure if you are unaware of the instances where the gazelle can one shot you at full 20k+ HP, or you are arguing the case that this is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapell.1346 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Far as i can tell Spirits are labeled as Companion which they can enhance your pet Damage when properly spec for and scale all through every damage multiplier you can attain, unless something was change without prior notice, i could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @kKagari.6804 said: > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. > > I thought you told me earlier that you can achieve that damage if you have a lot of setup. Like I said, I was downed instantly in the PvP area of HotM. > > Respectfully, I'm not sure if you are unaware of the instances where the gazelle can one shot you at full 20k+ HP, or you are arguing the case that this is OK. 30k in a single hit is impossible. 20k is reasonable if you spec fully into damage. Tiger can hit 16k. Gazelle can hit 20k. Both require a full burst setup to achieve. Yet the fact remains, 28k in a single hit is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rap Tiger.1257 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > > > > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. > > > > I thought you told me earlier that you can achieve that damage if you have a lot of setup. Like I said, I was downed instantly in the PvP area of HotM. > > > > Respectfully, I'm not sure if you are unaware of the instances where the gazelle can one shot you at full 20k+ HP, or you are arguing the case that this is OK. > > 30k in a single hit is impossible. 20k is reasonable if you spec fully into damage. > > Tiger can hit 16k. Gazelle can hit 20k. Both require a full burst setup to achieve. Yet the fact remains, 28k in a single hit is impossible. The kid who made a dueling video on one vs one is crying because they're going to nerf the gazelle? I play Soulbeast and I really need to nerf these gazella attacks, taking more damage than normal, hope that anet fix this bug, I'm not in favor of something so op and look I'm not too ask nerf.The gazelle already took me 20k in a single attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > > > > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > > > > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. > > > > > > I thought you told me earlier that you can achieve that damage if you have a lot of setup. Like I said, I was downed instantly in the PvP area of HotM. > > > > > > Respectfully, I'm not sure if you are unaware of the instances where the gazelle can one shot you at full 20k+ HP, or you are arguing the case that this is OK. > > > > 30k in a single hit is impossible. 20k is reasonable if you spec fully into damage. > > > > Tiger can hit 16k. Gazelle can hit 20k. Both require a full burst setup to achieve. Yet the fact remains, 28k in a single hit is impossible. > > The kid who made a dueling video on one vs one is crying because they're going to nerf the gazelle? I play Soulbeast and I really need to nerf these gazella attacks, taking more damage than normal, hope that anet fix this bug, I'm not in favor of something so op and look I'm not too ask nerf.The gazelle already took me 20k in a single attack Tiger can hit for roughly the same amount on a lower cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rap Tiger.1257 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > > > > > > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. > > > > > > > > I thought you told me earlier that you can achieve that damage if you have a lot of setup. Like I said, I was downed instantly in the PvP area of HotM. > > > > > > > > Respectfully, I'm not sure if you are unaware of the instances where the gazelle can one shot you at full 20k+ HP, or you are arguing the case that this is OK. > > > > > > 30k in a single hit is impossible. 20k is reasonable if you spec fully into damage. > > > > > > Tiger can hit 16k. Gazelle can hit 20k. Both require a full burst setup to achieve. Yet the fact remains, 28k in a single hit is impossible. > > > > The kid who made a dueling video on one vs one is crying because they're going to nerf the gazelle? I play Soulbeast and I really need to nerf these gazella attacks, taking more damage than normal, hope that anet fix this bug, I'm not in favor of something so op and look I'm not too ask nerf.The gazelle already took me 20k in a single attack > > Tiger can hit for roughly the same amount on a lower cooldown. Interesting, I have played PVP for almost 5 years and since the launch of HOT I have received 20k damage in an attack, maximum 10k down when used sic and other buffs for the pet, the tiger is absolutely normal, since the gazella does not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > > > > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. > > > > > > > > > > I thought you told me earlier that you can achieve that damage if you have a lot of setup. Like I said, I was downed instantly in the PvP area of HotM. > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, I'm not sure if you are unaware of the instances where the gazelle can one shot you at full 20k+ HP, or you are arguing the case that this is OK. > > > > > > > > 30k in a single hit is impossible. 20k is reasonable if you spec fully into damage. > > > > > > > > Tiger can hit 16k. Gazelle can hit 20k. Both require a full burst setup to achieve. Yet the fact remains, 28k in a single hit is impossible. > > > > > > The kid who made a dueling video on one vs one is crying because they're going to nerf the gazelle? I play Soulbeast and I really need to nerf these gazella attacks, taking more damage than normal, hope that anet fix this bug, I'm not in favor of something so op and look I'm not too ask nerf.The gazelle already took me 20k in a single attack > > > > Tiger can hit for roughly the same amount on a lower cooldown. > > Interesting, I have played PVP for almost 5 years and since the launch of HOT I have received 20k damage in an attack, maximum 10k down when used sic and other buffs for the pet, the tiger is absolutely normal, since the gazella does not . I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you wrote. Both pets require a lot of setup in order to achieve that burst. The gazelle on its own will NOT hit for 20k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > I'll email this thread to the soulbeast designer. Why fix it? I don't even play ranger and I think that's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten.4162 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @Loken.7684 said: > You should try binding the dodge key. Oh I didn't realise I had infinite dodge rolls that I should use for a random pet skill that is on a 15 second cooldown that does consistent damage regardless of what I might do. At least anet responded to this post, which is good and I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @Kitten.4162 said: > > @Loken.7684 said: > > You should try binding the dodge key. > > Oh I didn't realise I had infinite dodge rolls that I should use for a random pet skill. > > At least anet responded to this post, which is good and I appreciate it. Its not random. Since you don't know, pets follow specific ability rotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten.4162 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > @Kitten.4162 said: > > > @Loken.7684 said: > > > You should try binding the dodge key. > > > > Oh I didn't realise I had infinite dodge rolls that I should use for a random pet skill. > > > > At least anet responded to this post, which is good and I appreciate it. > > Its not random. Since you don't know, pets follow specific ability rotations. I'm sorry, what? Pets do consistent damage outside of what the ranger commands them to do lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @Kitten.4162 said: > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > @Kitten.4162 said: > > > > @Loken.7684 said: > > > > You should try binding the dodge key. > > > > > > Oh I didn't realise I had infinite dodge rolls that I should use for a random pet skill. > > > > > > At least anet responded to this post, which is good and I appreciate it. > > > > Its not random. Since you don't know, pets follow specific ability rotations. > > I'm sorry, what? > > Pets do consistent damage outside of what the ranger commands them to do lol You said its a "random pet skill." It's not random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutaatti.2789 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @Elxdark.9702 said: > Incredible to see the day where rangers were so used to their pets to do their main damage and crying over a clearly bugged pet that does more than a backstab steal combo. > Same happened with Bristleback and they nerfed it because it was doing crazy damage, smokescale does about 50% damage alone just from AA while the ranger just spam ccs on you. > > I miss the pre hot times where you actually had to use your pet to timing your f2 with your dps rotation, fear, immobilize, stun etc. > Now it's spam ccs and let your pet do the damage for you. > > Pets are supposed to help the rangers, not to do their job but Anet failed to realize this and look now, players crying over because they will nerf their main damage which comes from a freaking pet. Well then they should buff ranger damage big time when nerfing pet damage. Because ranger has least damage on it's own, and worst condi builds in PvP. If pets were to be given as "minions", then ranger should have atleast damage to kill someone. And cc? Pls... There's GS #5, LB #4 and if druid, avatar #3... Oh and one trap! All the other cc is coming from pets. And those misses most of the time. While ranger has only one stability utility, and that's elite... (Now soulbeast has stance too, but it's pretty useless in PvP). So if pet damages are nerfed, LB and condi weapons (dagger,shortbow, etc) should be buffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrouFrou.4958 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Oh, if only had I known that all we had to do was to post all the Ranger/Druid/Soulbeast bugs in pvp sub forum and they get fixed? In that case, I would like to raise awareness on one of the biggest issues that impacts all 3 specs: quickness on pets is broken and does not work properly (41 out of 52 pets gain nothing from quickness!). Please fix asap. Johnny's topic about pet quickness bug https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/565/one-big-problem-with-rangers-and-pets-anet-fix-this-bug More bugs can be found here https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/5067/soulbeast-list-of-bugged-non-functional-abilities-and-traits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rap Tiger.1257 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought you told me earlier that you can achieve that damage if you have a lot of setup. Like I said, I was downed instantly in the PvP area of HotM. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, I'm not sure if you are unaware of the instances where the gazelle can one shot you at full 20k+ HP, or you are arguing the case that this is OK. > > > > > > > > > > 30k in a single hit is impossible. 20k is reasonable if you spec fully into damage. > > > > > > > > > > Tiger can hit 16k. Gazelle can hit 20k. Both require a full burst setup to achieve. Yet the fact remains, 28k in a single hit is impossible. > > > > > > > > The kid who made a dueling video on one vs one is crying because they're going to nerf the gazelle? I play Soulbeast and I really need to nerf these gazella attacks, taking more damage than normal, hope that anet fix this bug, I'm not in favor of something so op and look I'm not too ask nerf.The gazelle already took me 20k in a single attack > > > > > > Tiger can hit for roughly the same amount on a lower cooldown. > > > > Interesting, I have played PVP for almost 5 years and since the launch of HOT I have received 20k damage in an attack, maximum 10k down when used sic and other buffs for the pet, the tiger is absolutely normal, since the gazella does not . > > I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you wrote. Both pets require a lot of setup in order to achieve that burst. The gazelle on its own will NOT hit for 20k As incredible as it seems the gazelle takes an absurdly bigger damage than a tiger with all the buffs, putting the buffs gets to take 30k, needs to receive nerf, smokescale and bristleback also in the time of the beginning of the HOT had absurd damages.You are only defending the gazelle not to receive nerf because it uses druid, then ends up using root in the enemies and then without being able to move uses the attack of the gazella to take off in an attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahzirra.8639 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. False...if you read my posts I was full health ~20K then root and charge...down. You can see the log. Obviously, it doesn't work how you think it does...saw in another thread a guy said if you spam the charge button it will do this, so who knows. You also said 28K not possible I showed you a log that it was, and had he crit the 4th hit, it would have been +31K...not upfront lol only within 1 second. I repeat I was not down nor was the first hit that downed me... This is like the deadeye bug comments all over... Poster 1 Deadeye 1 shotting people out of the blue no mark Poster 2 NUH UHH impossible you have to mark then build up stacks learn to dodge Poster 3 You just mark an ambient creature and never switch mark, bam full malice Poster 2.....silence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolbox.9375 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I understand needing to correct Gazelle's multi-hit bug, but it is frustrating as always that the beneficial bugs get addressed so much more promptly than the detrimental ones. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugrakarma.9416 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 good to know this, i have 1 alt for each class, i will have fun with ranger while this not "fixed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brannigan.9831 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Its a crap ability I don't care how difficut it is to land. There is no place for any ability that can hit that hard in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. > > False...if you read my posts I was full health ~20K then root and charge...down. You can see the log. Obviously, it doesn't work how you think it does...saw in another thread a guy said if you spam the charge button it will do this, so who knows. You also said 28K not possible I showed you a log that it was, and had he crit the 4th hit, it would have been +31K...not upfront lol only within 1 second. > > I repeat I was not down nor was the first hit that downed me... > > This is like the deadeye bug comments all over... > > Poster 1 Deadeye 1 shotting people out of the blue no mark > Poster 2 NUH UHH impossible you have to mark then build up stacks learn to dodge > Poster 3 You just mark an ambient creature and never switch mark, bam full malice > Poster 2.....silence Okay, a few things here... First off, that combat log shows nothing except for the damage you received. Second, I _can_ see the log and it does NOT tell me anything about whether you were already in the downstate or not. Obviously, it doesn't work how YOU think it does. Have you ever actually played ranger before? If you can show me how to "spam the charge button" I'm all ears. Modesty aside, I'm probably one of the best, if not _the_ best ranger in the game in terms of mechanics and knowledge... so its not "who knows?..." because _I know._ The only buttons we have available in terms of controlling our pets attacks are f1 and f2. There's no "spamming" the charge button, because the charge is bound to neither one of the two. Maybe you should read a little more carefully. I never said the damage wasn't possible. I said it was impossible for a single hit to do 28k. Your screenshot literally proves this as you had taken **seven hits**. Three which did 7.8k damage, 1 that did 4.6k, and 3 that did 700. For the record, I know this damage is possible. I bet you don't even know the extent as to how high this damage can go. I can hit 64k given the right scenarios and enough buffs. Yet the fact remains, it WILL NOT hit this damage in a single hit on someone who is NOT already in the downstate. There are very few people in the game with as much experience and knowledge I have on ranger. FFS, I was one of the guild leaders for the largest ALL RANGER GUILD in the game. So, with that said, don't lecture me and take that tone if you don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > @"Rap Tiger.1257" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > > > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > > > > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > > > > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought you told me earlier that you can achieve that damage if you have a lot of setup. Like I said, I was downed instantly in the PvP area of HotM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, I'm not sure if you are unaware of the instances where the gazelle can one shot you at full 20k+ HP, or you are arguing the case that this is OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > 30k in a single hit is impossible. 20k is reasonable if you spec fully into damage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tiger can hit 16k. Gazelle can hit 20k. Both require a full burst setup to achieve. Yet the fact remains, 28k in a single hit is impossible. > > > > > > > > > > The kid who made a dueling video on one vs one is crying because they're going to nerf the gazelle? I play Soulbeast and I really need to nerf these gazella attacks, taking more damage than normal, hope that anet fix this bug, I'm not in favor of something so op and look I'm not too ask nerf.The gazelle already took me 20k in a single attack > > > > > > > > Tiger can hit for roughly the same amount on a lower cooldown. > > > > > > Interesting, I have played PVP for almost 5 years and since the launch of HOT I have received 20k damage in an attack, maximum 10k down when used sic and other buffs for the pet, the tiger is absolutely normal, since the gazella does not . > > > > I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you wrote. Both pets require a lot of setup in order to achieve that burst. The gazelle on its own will NOT hit for 20k > > As incredible as it seems the gazelle takes an absurdly bigger damage than a tiger with all the buffs, putting the buffs gets to take 30k, needs to receive nerf, smokescale and bristleback also in the time of the beginning of the HOT had absurd damages.You are only defending the gazelle not to receive nerf because it uses druid, then ends up using root in the enemies and then without being able to move uses the attack of the gazella to take off in an attack. Can you tell me why people pick Smokescale now? Its sure as hell not because of its damage. In most cases, it will barely hit for 3k on its Smoke Assault against a single target in PvP. Given the fact that you are rarely fighting against a single target, the Smokescale is mainly taken for the utility with its smoke field. Also, tell me how many people you see actually using Bristleback now? It's probably close to none. Why? Because even through all of the projectile hate in this game, landing a Bristleback f2 was worth it for the burst it provided. Constant complaining due to people like you caused this pet and Smokescale to be nerfed into oblivion. The Bristleback was ONLY taken for its burst with its f2. The low damage coupled with its extreme difficulty in the current meta of actually landing it, makes this pet worthless. I am not defending the gazelle to not receive a nerf because it uses druid. Honestly, that statement probably doesn't even make that much sense. I am saying, if you nerf the damage on charge, this pet will becomes worthless like Bristleback. I REPEAT. THE PET WILL BECOME USELESS. I am fine if they nerf charge's interaction with a downed body if they fix the AI to compensate for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @Toolbox.9375 said: > I understand needing to correct Gazelle's multi-hit bug, but it is frustrating as always that the beneficial bugs get addressed so much more promptly than the detrimental ones. :( This person sees why I get frustrated. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @brannigan.9831 said: > Its a crap ability I don't care how difficut it is to land. There is no place for any ability that can hit that hard in this game. There are several classes that can 1 shot or do significant damage when specced for it. You realize that the "insane" damage comes from the pet attacking a downed player right? It will generally only hit for 5-13k at max against a target in a single hit. The latter requires heavy setup in order to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahzirra.8639 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > @Gahzirra.8639 said: > > > > > @shadowpass.4236 said: > > > > > For clarification, it does NOT hit for 20k on its own. You need to take several traits/utilities for it to hit that hard. It only does a single hit on a standing target. If that target goes down, it will get hit by the rest of the ability. > > > > > > > > Please explain, I was not downed https://imgur.com/a/ijHHW > > > > > > > > So the set up for this 28K is just root? > > > > > > > > > > If the initial hit downed you, you'd take 28k total. It does NOT do 28k damage upfront. It's not possible. The multiple hits only occur when it charges against someone in the down state. > > > > False...if you read my posts I was full health ~20K then root and charge...down. You can see the log. Obviously, it doesn't work how you think it does...saw in another thread a guy said if you spam the charge button it will do this, so who knows. You also said 28K not possible I showed you a log that it was, and had he crit the 4th hit, it would have been +31K...not upfront lol only within 1 second. > > > > I repeat I was not down nor was the first hit that downed me... > > > > This is like the deadeye bug comments all over... > > > > Poster 1 Deadeye 1 shotting people out of the blue no mark > > Poster 2 NUH UHH impossible you have to mark then build up stacks learn to dodge > > Poster 3 You just mark an ambient creature and never switch mark, bam full malice > > Poster 2.....silence > > Okay, a few things here... > > First off, that combat log shows nothing except for the damage you received. > > Second, I _can_ see the log and it does NOT tell me anything about whether you were already in the downstate or not. > > Obviously, it doesn't work how YOU think it does. Have you ever actually played ranger before? If you can show me how to "spam the charge button" I'm all ears. Modesty aside, I'm probably one of the best, if not _the_ best ranger in the game in terms of mechanics and knowledge... so its not "who knows?..." because _I know._ The only buttons we have available in terms of controlling our pets attacks are f1 and f2. There's no "spamming" the charge button, because the charge is bound to neither one of the two. > > Maybe you should read a little more carefully. I never said the damage wasn't possible. I said it was impossible for a single hit to do 28k. Your screenshot literally proves this as you had taken **seven hits**. Three which did 7.8k damage, 1 that did 4.6k, and 3 that did 700. > > For the record, I know this damage is possible. I bet you don't even know the extent as to how high this damage can go. I can hit 64k given the right scenarios and enough buffs. Yet the fact remains, it WILL NOT hit this damage in a single hit on someone who is NOT already in the downstate. > > There are very few people in the game with as much experience and knowledge I have on ranger. kitten, I was one of the guild leaders for the largest ALL RANGER GUILD in the game. So, with that said, don't lecture me and take that tone if you don't know what you're talking about. I agreed not in 1 hit, as I stated but it was within 1 second. You can see the entanglement tick then the 4 charge hits and another tick...it ticks roughly once per second, is that correct "best ranger in the game in terms of mechanics and knowledge"? I was in the fight and as I said I was full health then deleted, didn't even know about the damage potential but checked log because I was like wtf hit me...then he stomped. I get you weren't there, so lets use some logic on health bars. Let's say I imagined it all and I was close to death and he hit my with the first charge that downed me. So the first 7.9k was to down then he hit me for almost 25K(since I had to be downed by your rule of only multiple hits if downed) more health than I have standing? Isn't downed health bar initially 75% of health. Keep defending your broken pet damage, it will be fixed. I am done with this, life is complete the **best ranger in the game in terms of mechanics and knowledge** replied to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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