Sampson.2403 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Just curious how often people try and use burst of strength as a boost before a burst in pvp. It feels slow and clunky to use and i rarely feel like i take advantage of the 15% damage increase after i use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Why would you not? It's decent cleave damage with a "farther than autoattack" range, boosts all your other skills, AND it's practically free to use. Don't necessarily have to use it for bursts either as it buffs your sustain damage too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Yeah I use it for the attack as much as the damage buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Its a fairly weak 'burst' skill, piddly damage even if followed by elemental blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 On it's own it is about DPS neutral to sword auto attacks. Since it does have a bit extra range and the follow up DPS buff it is certainly worth using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 > @"LucianTheAngelic.7054" said: > Why would you not? It's decent cleave damage with a "farther than autoattack" range, boosts all your other skills, AND it's practically free to use. Don't necessarily have to use it for bursts either as it buffs your sustain damage too Because is slow to cast and easy to be interrupted, costs 15 energy units and since the patch in which lost the 10 + 10 stacks of vulnerability on hit seems mostly meaningless, specially against human players. I think that currently I only use it when there's a downed enemy with chances of more targets trying to rezz; otherwise I like more the 15 energy in my pocket, because aside from a bit more damage this skill does absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Za Shaloc.3908 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I find the radius makes it a really nice skill to use while kiting close to melee range, similarly to how a lot of Rev skills work. It's also nice to have as a source of AoE pressure that doesn't have split damage. Sometimes I'll just waste it if I want some extra might stacks (when running Draconic Echo) and I know I won't be engaging in melee before legend swapping, possibly allowing me the energy to pulse prot instead for a bit beforehand as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 > @"Buran.3796" said: > > @"LucianTheAngelic.7054" said: > > Why would you not? It's decent cleave damage with a "farther than autoattack" range, boosts all your other skills, AND it's practically free to use. Don't necessarily have to use it for bursts either as it buffs your sustain damage too > > Because is slow to cast and easy to be interrupted, costs 15 energy units and since the patch in which lost the 10 + 10 stacks of vulnerability on hit seems mostly meaningless, specially against human players. > > I think that currently I only use it when there's a downed enemy with chances of more targets trying to rezz; otherwise I like more the 15 energy in my pocket, because aside from a bit more damage this skill does absolutely nothing. Wait what? Burst of strength costs 15 energy?? Since when?? o_O Y’all should get your facts right before making up reasons why a skill is bad. It’s a consume skill and costs literally -2 energy regen for like half a second as you use it due to activating Facet of Strength Also the 15% modifier can’t be cleansed like the old vulnerability (and you get the full modifier off of just one hit) so this change makes the skill arguably better than it was before. At the very least it’s certainly better in some situations that the old one was not good in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson.2403 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Yeah ill def try to use it more often. Revenant is a hard class to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 its nice to snag someone fleeing with sword 2 then use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 > @"LucianTheAngelic.7054" said: > > @"Buran.3796" said: > > > @"LucianTheAngelic.7054" said: > > > Why would you not? It's decent cleave damage with a "farther than autoattack" range, boosts all your other skills, AND it's practically free to use. Don't necessarily have to use it for bursts either as it buffs your sustain damage too > > > > Because is slow to cast and easy to be interrupted, costs 15 energy units and since the patch in which lost the 10 + 10 stacks of vulnerability on hit seems mostly meaningless, specially against human players. > > > > I think that currently I only use it when there's a downed enemy with chances of more targets trying to rezz; otherwise I like more the 15 energy in my pocket, because aside from a bit more damage this skill does absolutely nothing. > > Wait what? Burst of strength costs 15 energy?? Since when?? o_O > Y’all should get your facts right before making up reasons why a skill is bad. It’s a consume skill and costs literally -2 energy regen for like half a second as you use it due to activating Facet of Strength > > Also the 15% modifier can’t be cleansed like the old vulnerability (and you get the full modifier off of just one hit) so this change makes the skill arguably better than it was before. At the very least it’s certainly better in some situations that the old one was not good in Rofl maybe he come from the future and anet plans to add energy cost to glint skills "to give revenants more appealing choices of legend aka lolcore". Ah yeah time for amazing ventari sword power plays! Said no...well I guess said a few people. sadface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Za Shaloc.3908 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 > @"Justine.6351" said: > > Rofl maybe he come from the future and anet plans to add energy cost to glint skills "to give revenants more appealing choices of legend aka lolcore". > > Ah yeah time for amazing ventari sword power plays! Said no...well I guess said a few people. sadface. I feel personally attacked by your comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcx.3570 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 > @"Pterikdactyl.7630" said: > > @"Justine.6351" said: > > > > Rofl maybe he come from the future and anet plans to add energy cost to glint skills "to give revenants more appealing choices of legend aka lolcore". > > > > Ah yeah time for amazing ventari sword power plays! Said no...well I guess said a few people. sadface. > > I feel personally attacked by your comment. Why, are you from the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 > @"Pterikdactyl.7630" said: > > @"Justine.6351" said: > > > > Rofl maybe he come from the future and anet plans to add energy cost to glint skills "to give revenants more appealing choices of legend aka lolcore". > > > > Ah yeah time for amazing ventari sword power plays! Said no...well I guess said a few people. sadface. > > I feel personally attacked by your comment. I think yours was ok but all the other "ventari roaming" vids I saw were just healing bunkers sustaining people to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson.2403 Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Im really starting to get use out of burst of strength in team fights now. Still not so much in 1v1s but that's probably how it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcx.3570 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 > @"Sampson.2403" said: > Im really starting to get use out of burst of strength in team fights now. Still not so much in 1v1s but that's probably how it should be. It's good for creating new burst situations in 1v1's too... While it's tempting to try to BoS+sw4 or whatever, I find it's better to use BoS to amp up other things like a PT+sw2+aa. Everybody is going to be dodging your sw4 already, because they basically have to--same with deathstrike--so when you use BoS to pad other skills, you're creating more must-dodge scenarios and a dude's only got so much endurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson.2403 Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 ^ solid gold advice right there. You sir have just pushed me to the next tier. So many things about rev playstyle in general clicked for me while reading your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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