Sovereign.1093 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 it shows player kills and guild and server. since tiers now dont matter, individuals and guilds can matter here. timezone dont even bother. i petition the devs to consider it. i.e. my guild aims top 10 every week and it is what drives us. it could be your reason too http://wvw-community.com/weeklyguild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Stupid question but if all the guilds left what does it mean to be top 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Justine.6351" said: > Stupid question but if all the guilds left what does it mean to be top 10? stupid question indeed :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyShroud.2865 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 the top 10 blob guilds left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > the top 10 blob guilds left how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > the top 10 blob guilds left > > how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) You're the last wood league ppt'er Why don't you assume you're the greatest and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizplayer.1250 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 LOL a lot good guilds dont play anymore whats the point to be in top 10 and to implement a new feature to a dead gamemode , for like 3~5 guilds that really are competing, cause if u check the site right now, only 5 guilds above 1000 kills, rest bellow and same value so .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWI.4127 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Yeah that site is not a good measure of much. Just who has played the most out of the very limited amount of people who actually signed up. An official version might be cool though, where you could compare yourself to the entire userbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"LetoII.3782" said: > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > the top 10 blob guilds left > > > > how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) > > You're the last wood league ppt'er > Why don't you assume you're the greatest and leave it at that. it is a compliment that you assume me to be so. =) but id prefer anet's official thing. and the website shows no ppt. but anet could put such. > @"luizplayer.1250" said: > LOL > a lot good guilds dont play anymore whats the point to be in top 10 and to implement a new feature to a dead gamemode , for like 3~5 guilds that really are competing, cause if u check the site right now, only 5 guilds above 1000 kills, rest bellow and same value so .... what is that to me? those who stay matters. =)> @"SWI.4127" said: > Yeah that site is not a good measure of much. Just who has played the most out of the very limited amount of people who actually signed up. An official version might be cool though, where you could compare yourself to the entire userbase. yes, im sure there are better scores out there. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > @"LetoII.3782" said: > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > > the top 10 blob guilds left > > > > > > how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) > > > > You're the last wood league ppt'er > > Why don't you assume you're the greatest and leave it at that. > > it is a compliment that you assume me to be so. =) You sir are an unassailable fortress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyShroud.2865 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > the top 10 blob guilds left > > how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) To get kills easily, you just have to blob people down. It is just a pointless glorified leaderboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkamania.7561 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 You know it's bad when sovereign's guild is tops in kills.. Everyone must have quit the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 poor sov, getting all beat up on. I think it should show 3 stats: average kdr of guild, average size of that guild, and time played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > the top 10 blob guilds left > > > > how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) > > To get kills easily, you just have to blob people down. It is just a pointless glorified leaderboard. we don't have a blob though, but that's true> @"hunkamania.7561" said: > You know it's bad when sovereign's guild is tops in kills.. Everyone must have quit the game. :p meh, you all bags > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > poor sov, getting all beat up on. > > I think it should show 3 stats: average kdr of guild, average size of that guild, and time played. :) hehe must have been previous victims. on a serious side though. need to bust the ssdd of gw2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gop.8713 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > the top 10 blob guilds left > > > > how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) > > To get kills easily, you just have to blob people down. It is just a pointless glorified leaderboard. This is the big problem with this kind of metric, and it's why anet can't reward ppk like they do ppt. It only encourages ppl to avoid fights they might lose, which is already one of wvw's biggest problems :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Gop.8713" said: > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > > the top 10 blob guilds left > > > > > > how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) > > > > To get kills easily, you just have to blob people down. It is just a pointless glorified leaderboard. > > This is the big problem with this kind of metric, and it's why anet can't reward ppk like they do ppt. It only encourages ppl to avoid fights they might lose, which is already one of wvw's biggest problems :( my suggestion is anet try to make it official. doesn't have to be ppk - could be ppt or what not or combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gop.8713 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > @"Gop.8713" said: > > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > > > the top 10 blob guilds left > > > > > > > > how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) > > > > > > To get kills easily, you just have to blob people down. It is just a pointless glorified leaderboard. > > > > This is the big problem with this kind of metric, and it's why anet can't reward ppk like they do ppt. It only encourages ppl to avoid fights they might lose, which is already one of wvw's biggest problems :( > > my suggestion is anet try to make it official. doesn't have to be ppk - could be ppt or what not or combo Apologies then, I was responding only to the thread, not the link . . . This sort of thing may be a good idea for the game then, idk. I believe they have something similar in pvp? I still don't like it bc I would put this in the reward category, and I feel like the quality of play decreases as rewards increase, but the game isn't designed just for me . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 So this is actually a thing... lol. That would explain why those top 2 guilds on that list have 0 interest in even fights. I've watched them constantly map-hop to avoid an even number match in favor of jumping on pug groups a lot smaller than them. I could never figure out why those 2 particular guilds did that, but now this makes sense. I like the idea OP, I really do, but there needs to be restrictions on what counts and what doesn't. It needs to be implemented in such a way that kills do not count when you outnumber your enemy by 50% or more. So a group of 15 jumping on a group of 10 and killing them (which many of those guilds cant really do to begin with), wouldn't count towards kills. The match-up potential would have to be at minimum less than 50% greater than your enemy. Whenever alliances come (if they ever actually do), I hope something like this is implemented, but with the restrictions that dissuade guilds from trying to attack smaller groups to buff their stats. It would certainly bring light to just how good (or bad) all of the guilds are, and the behavior they exude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"Gop.8713" said: > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > @"Gop.8713" said: > > > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > > > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > > > > > the top 10 blob guilds left > > > > > > > > > > how is this concerning to the suggedtion? :) > > > > > > > > To get kills easily, you just have to blob people down. It is just a pointless glorified leaderboard. > > > > > > This is the big problem with this kind of metric, and it's why anet can't reward ppk like they do ppt. It only encourages ppl to avoid fights they might lose, which is already one of wvw's biggest problems :( > > > > my suggestion is anet try to make it official. doesn't have to be ppk - could be ppt or what not or combo > > Apologies then, I was responding only to the thread, not the link . . . > > This sort of thing may be a good idea for the game then, idk. I believe they have something similar in pvp? I still don't like it bc I would put this in the reward category, and I feel like the quality of play decreases as rewards increase, but the game isn't designed just for me . . . it is supposed to entice players to try. :) and to focus on the guild. i mean you can't really take care of a server and have a meaningful connection with 300 players or more. but a good relations with 10 ppl? that's doable. hence why guild ranks not server ranks.> @"DeadlySynz.3471" said: > So this is actually a thing... lol. That would explain why those top 2 guilds on that list have 0 interest in even fights. I've watched them constantly map-hop to avoid an even number match in favor of jumping on pug groups a lot smaller than them. I could never figure out why those 2 particular guilds did that, but now this makes sense. > > I like the idea OP, I really do, but there needs to be restrictions on what counts and what doesn't. It needs to be implemented in such a way that kills do not count when you outnumber your enemy by 50% or more. So a group of 15 jumping on a group of 10 and killing them (which many of those guilds cant really do to begin with), wouldn't count towards kills. The match-up potential would have to be at minimum less than 50% greater than your enemy. > > Whenever alliances come (if they ever actually do), I hope something like this is implemented, but with the restrictions that dissuade guilds from trying to attack smaller groups to buff their stats. It would certainly bring light to just how good (or bad) all of the guilds are, and the behavior they exude. yes. :) and it shouldn't be just about pk. it can be everything in wvw. probably the total amount of wxp a guild makes a day or a week like this one. if a website can do it, anet dev can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirnale.5914 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 So basically https://gw2mists.de/leaderboard/guilds in eu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWI.4127 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 > @"DeadlySynz.3471" said: > So this is actually a thing... lol. That would explain why those top 2 guilds on that list have 0 interest in even fights. I've watched them constantly map-hop to avoid an even number match in favor of jumping on pug groups a lot smaller than them. I could never figure out why those 2 particular guilds did that, but now this makes sense. > > I like the idea OP, I really do, but there needs to be restrictions on what counts and what doesn't. It needs to be implemented in such a way that kills do not count when you outnumber your enemy by 50% or more. So a group of 15 jumping on a group of 10 and killing them (which many of those guilds cant really do to begin with), wouldn't count towards kills. The match-up potential would have to be at minimum less than 50% greater than your enemy. > > Whenever alliances come (if they ever actually do), I hope something like this is implemented, but with the restrictions that dissuade guilds from trying to attack smaller groups to buff their stats. It would certainly bring light to just how good (or bad) all of the guilds are, and the behavior they exude. I can speak only as a member of one of those two guilds you seem to know so much about. I will say we not ones to turn down even-numbered fights. So if you really think we are avoiding them, then contact me and we can set something up. edit: Also I would just like to say, the main reason we are on that list is because we have a lot of members signed up lol. It's not from "hopping maps to avoid even fights". And I don't think we're great or anything just because we're on there. Like I said it's a measure of how many people you have signed up on the site, and how much time you play. That's pretty much it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Strike Force best guild NA I'd just looked lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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