mistsim.2748 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 can't really believe this. this thing performs at the level of the oldschool cele ele and everyone knows it (basically just roll your face on the keyboard and win), and no shaves for current season. i guess most top players will just continue to spam Glint/Malyx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 But but u just stated n another thread condi and power are balanced and condi rev close to balanced and the only people who don't like the current meta and class states are people that kno little about the game and are in silver rank. Close to balanced is best u can hope for in a mmo so condi rev is fine no? Why the thread then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Let's see how many more players we lose this season, bet its quite a few lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Why does it matter what _most top players_ play? The game should be balanced around the average, not some outliers. Those outliers will exploit anything that can be exploited anyway. At average gameplay, condition Heralds are not over-performing. Most Revenants I see are killed before they can do serious damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widmo.3186 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 > @"mistsim.2748" said: > can't really believe this. this thing performs at the level of the oldschool cele ele and everyone knows it (basically just roll your face on the keyboard and win), and no shaves for current season. i guess most top players will just continue to spam Glint/Malyx. I strongly disagree. In my opinion rev is a class that's favored more by the best players, and the best players tend to win the monthly :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistsim.2748 Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > But but u just stated n another thread condi and power are balanced and condi rev close to balanced and the only people who don't like the current meta and class states are people that kno little about the game and are in silver rank. Close to balanced is best u can hope for in a mmo so condi rev is fine no? Why the thread then? as per the thread you mention, i say that condi rev needs shaving. so this thread is about "i cant believe this didnt happen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Doubtful, probably will be a patch midway through or somet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virdo.1540 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 another one whining about condi revs? Just think once about how to counter those. It may take 15-20 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistsim.2748 Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 > @"Virdo.1540" said: > another one whining about condi revs? Just think once about how to counter those. It may take 15-20 seconds im speaking about issues at the highest level of play where Glint/Malyx is fairly oppressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virdo.1540 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 even at the highest level of play, condi herald are not even close to being an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 > @"Fueki.4753" said: > Why does it matter what _most top players_ play? > The game should be balanced around the average, not some outliers. > Those outliers will exploit anything that can be exploited anyway. > > At average gameplay, condition Heralds are not over-performing. > Most Revenants I see are killed before they can do serious damage. Condi herald is too strong at all skill levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I'm back from a month long haitus. Looks like the forum mob is still targeting Rev. Guess I haven't missed much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevlisBavles.3059 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 > @"mistsim.2748" said: > can't really believe this. this thing performs at the level of the oldschool cele ele and everyone knows it (basically just roll your face on the keyboard and win), and no shaves for current season. i guess most top players will just continue to spam Glint/Malyx. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Putrid_Mark https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deathly_Swarm https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Consume_Conditions https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Plague_Signet https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Well_of_Power https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spiteful_Renewal https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Plague_Sending https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shrouded_Removal https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unholy_Martyr https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Speed_of_Shadows i guess most top players will just continue to spam core necros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugchriss.2046 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 > @"mistsim.2748" said: > > @"Virdo.1540" said: > > another one whining about condi revs? Just think once about how to counter those. It may take 15-20 seconds > > im speaking about issues at the highest level of play where Glint/Malyx is fairly oppressive. What do you call "highest level of play"? Because in my highest level of play mallyx is too predictable, so people were playing power rev. Last 5v5 season, I didn't see any from mid plat1 to high plat 2 (where I ended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aihao.5824 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 seems tank meta is on the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 > @"Eugchriss.2046" said: > What do you call "highest level of play"? Probably mota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > Condi herald is too strong at all skill levels Then why Rank 55 is consistently crushing teams which stack 2-3 condi Revs while the only one they have is a power herald? Listen: condi Revs are powerfull at midfights, but they move slower around the map so teams which stack them oftenly struggle to prevent home decaps; they can also be easily focused due the lack of disengagement tools. Understand also that condi Rev nerfs automatically will buff power Revs (which are already stronger, albeit harder to play). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 > @"Buran.3796" said: > > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > > > Condi herald is too strong at all skill levels > > Then why Rank 55 is consistently crushing teams which stack 2-3 condi Revs while the only one they have is a power herald? Listen: condi Revs are powerfull at midfights, but they move slower around the map so teams which stack them oftenly struggle to prevent home decaps; they can also be easily focused due the lack of disengagement tools. Understand also that condi Rev nerfs automatically will buff power Revs (which are already stronger, albeit harder to play). Because it's Rank 55 and they would crush those teams just as hard with mirror comps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xWiroo.3841 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 > @"SevlisBavles.3059" said: > > @"mistsim.2748" said: > > can't really believe this. this thing performs at the level of the oldschool cele ele and everyone knows it (basically just roll your face on the keyboard and win), and no shaves for current season. i guess most top players will just continue to spam Glint/Malyx. > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Putrid_Mark > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deathly_Swarm > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Consume_Conditions > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Plague_Signet > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Well_of_Power > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spiteful_Renewal > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Plague_Sending > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shrouded_Removal > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unholy_Martyr > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Speed_of_Shadows > > i guess most top players will just continue to spam core necros you think core necro is more broken that rev? Tfuq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevlisBavles.3059 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 > @"xWiroo.3841" said: > > @"SevlisBavles.3059" said: > > > @"mistsim.2748" said: > > > can't really believe this. this thing performs at the level of the oldschool cele ele and everyone knows it (basically just roll your face on the keyboard and win), and no shaves for current season. i guess most top players will just continue to spam Glint/Malyx. > > > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Putrid_Mark > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deathly_Swarm > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Consume_Conditions > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Plague_Signet > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Well_of_Power > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spiteful_Renewal > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Plague_Sending > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shrouded_Removal > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unholy_Martyr > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Speed_of_Shadows > > > > i guess most top players will just continue to spam core necros > > you think core necro is more broken that rev? Tfuq I mean, in MOTA there were more matches without rev than without core necro. Naru wanted to play core nec but he had to go FB I believe, it might have made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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