World Restructuring

HitmanHaydon.1053 · February 8, 2018

Please, please, please just get on with it ASAP.

Game is awful atm.

There will be no one left to play at this rate.

Xelonir.5921 · February 9, 2018

Some thoughts on the new system:

**Server pride**

Believe it or not, but there are people in the game who are strongly connected to their server. People who brought guilds on the server together to form a community, who provided web pages, forums, etc. People who are still playing WvW on the same server since day one.

The new system will destroy this connection to a server, will make all that work useless.

Yes, maybe it will be replaced with something like alliance pride. But what is an alliance compared to a server? Something far smaller.

Players who don’t care about which server they are on, on the other hand, will simply exchange “server hopping” for “alliance hopping”.

I think you are punishing the wrong people.

Player toxicity

One benefit of having servers as a reference is that guilds who do not get along with each other had a simple way to avoid all that drama. One guild simply moved to another server, problem solved. World linking was already a step back in this regard, and the alliance system will make things even worse.

**Voice communication**

Nowadays, every server (as far as I can tell) has a dedicated TS, often set up by those “server pride” people who care about their server and its community. They put in a lot of effort to provide all that fancy stuff a good WvW TS needs (multiple channels per map with map-wide whisper lists as well as cross-map whispers, etc.) and that separates modern day WvW from the stone age situation at the game’s release.

World linking added a little extra work for the TS admins on those days when links change, because many server TS only provide access to people of that server and the linked one(s). But still, even on link change resets, every WvW player has a TS server that he can join for reset.

With the alliance system, basically every alliance will need to set up its own TS server, and hopefully on every world there will be at least one alliance that is willing to open up its TS to all players on the world. Otherwise, that world will be put back into stone age WvW for at least 8 weeks. Unless ArenaNet decides to add in-game voice communications (which I don’t believe they’ll do) this will turn the start of every season into an organization nightmare.

**Pressure on casual WvW players**

A lot of guilds have some players who are hard core WvW players, while other players in that guild are more on the casual side but still like to join their guildmates every now and then for some WvW action. Imagine multiple of these guilds forming an alliance, and the alliance reaching its capacity limit. What will you do if other players want to join one of those guilds and play WvW with their guildmates? Or if players returning after some months of absence and want to get back into WvW with their guild? Tell them they cannot do that and send them away? Ask the more casual players in the guild to deselect their main guild and choose another guild for WvW? Ask the guild with the lowest member count or the highest number of casuals to leave the alliance?

**Night capping**

The new system will not improve time zone coverage globally. With the current system, servers can try to find guilds for their server who are more active during the night. With the alliance system, it will be almost impossible to make sure every world has an equal coverage over different daytimes, especially when your pool is limited like in the language specific European servers. If one world has an alliance with a night crew, and the others don’t, guess who’ll win. And the automatic upgrade system just works in favor of the server who already has an advantage.

ArenaNet should first continue improving the scoring system before messing up servers.

**Conclusion**

You claim

> @"Gaile Gray.6029" said:

> [...] Simply "blowing up" worlds or removing people from the worlds on which they currently play is high risk [...]

yet blowing up worlds is exactly what this system will do. You only make the chunks a little larger, but you also repeat it every eight weeks.

IMHO the numbers discussed here (500-1000 players per alliance) are far too low to keep communities intact if you consider bonds between guilds as well as inside guilds, while larger alliance sizes would contradict the baseic idea of more granularity for linking people together.

Instead of working on fundamental problems like better scoring and WvW specific balance, you prefer to spend months of work time on a system that will destroy communities (and the massive amount of work some dedicated individuals have invested to build and support those communities) and increase toxicity between players.

What a waste of resources :(

Raymond Lukes.6305 · February 9, 2018

> @"Klypto.1703" said:

> > @"Raymond Lukes.6305" said:

> > > @"hmsgoddess.3869" said:

> > > I'd like to make a suggestion in regards to alliances and number cap. As a guild leader I am in charge of making alliances that benefits my guild, that said this means I need to know how many of my guild members are choosing my guild as their WvW guild, as you can imagine one larger guilds this is a guild leader nightmare. I need to know how many are choosing my guild as their WvW guild. When the time comes, I do hope that ANET places some sort of UI that guild leaders can see as to whom is selecting their guild as the WvW guild choice. A simple 50/100 have selected this guild for WvW is fine it would at least give guild leaders a base number to foster alliances with. Just my 2 cents.

> >

> > There will be UI to help manage the guild aspects of this change so you'll defiantly be able to see guild members that have picked your guild as their WvW guild.

>

> One issue regarding guilds and this may or may not happen with restructuring but a certain server I am on they basically are toxic to anything except afking inside smc waiting for someone to attack it. That problem being said some of us smaller guilds had to make alt guilds just to have enough claims if this issue persists in the restructuring will we be able to claim objectives outside of the wvw guild we choose? thx

yes, there is currently no plan to change the way claiming works.

kafka.1657 · February 9, 2018

**PROBLEM:** Our server's WvW community guild is already full (500 members), and yet I know of some members who are still planning to declare a different guild as their WvW guild. Ideally, such members would leave the community guild to make room for players who will actually commit to that guild for WvW, but I suspect that large numbers will remain.

**SOLUTION A:** I suggest that ArenaNet create a means for guild leaders to designate that their guild is flagged for WvW. Then, after that flag has been set, all uncommitted members would be given ~7 days to designate that guild for WvW, or they would automatically be kicked out.

**SOLUTION B:** If solution A seems too ruthless then perhaps a new WvW-guild marker could be introduced next to each member's name in the guild roster, showing whether or not they've designated that guild for WvW. It could then be left up to the Guild leaders to cull uncommitted members as they see fit.

_**Edit:** Doh!! I've just read a post by Raymond Lukes on the previous page stating that they will be introducing new Guild UI elements along the lines of Solution B above._

brianmiguel.8517 · February 9, 2018