Link.1049 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Holy cow... .I was holding out for a good patch...but anet disappointed the hell out of me. Someone was saying they do less confusion damage now...that doesn't matter because they don't need it anymore. It's the most broken class I've seen since HOT launched! I know they said they were going to watch it and adjust as needed, and that couldn't come soon enough. Wow... what a miscalculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emtiarbi.3281 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Since HoT launched? I don't think so brah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 > @"Emtiarbi.3281" said: > Since HoT launched? I don't think so brah Well, technically true? Chronobunker was still Mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 i saw a mesmer 1 shot a engie i was like... good thing this guy is on ma team :astonished: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guizao.4167 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 > @"Link.1049" said: > Holy cow... .I was holding out for a good patch...but anet disappointed the hell out of me. Someone was saying they do less confusion damage now...that doesn't matter because they don't need it anymore. It's the most broken class I've seen since HOT launched! I know they said they were going to watch it and adjust as needed, and that couldn't come soon enough. Wow... what a miscalculation. If you're talking about condition mesmer - you're wrong and I think you're trolling. But if you're talking about power mesmer, then yes, it's very powerful now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartarus.1082 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 > @"Guizao.4167" said: > > @"Link.1049" said: > > Holy cow... .I was holding out for a good patch...but anet disappointed the hell out of me. Someone was saying they do less confusion damage now...that doesn't matter because they don't need it anymore. It's the most broken class I've seen since HOT launched! I know they said they were going to watch it and adjust as needed, and that couldn't come soon enough. Wow... what a miscalculation. > > If you're talking about condition mesmer - you're wrong and I think you're trolling. But if you're talking about power mesmer, then yes, it's very powerful now. I’d rather have strong power Mesmer over condi though. Daredevil realistically still gives power Mesmer a hard time, and it doesn’t have the vitality bonus of carrion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pah.4931 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Correct. Balance patch = way less balance. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Seizure.4985 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Managing clones is a thing of the past , lol. All Mesmer builds are generating clones so fast now, you don’t even need to pick your moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasdamas Anklast.1607 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 > @"Emtiarbi.3281" said: > Since HoT launched? I don't think so brah Condi chronomancers on wvw say hello to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 A Mesmer's downstate phantasm hit me for 7k. It didn't feel very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToPNoP.2493 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 stronger Mesmer, stronger soulbeast, daredevil is now obsolete. thanks for the great patch anet. maybe its time to delete this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 > @"ToPNoP.2493" said: > stronger Mesmer, stronger soulbeast, daredevil is now obsolete. thanks for the great patch anet. maybe its time to delete this game. Can you quote Anet on the Soulbeast "buffs" we got? Because seriously, the general consensus on the ranger forums is that we quite literally only got bug fixes we've been waiting on since PoF came out almost half a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link.1049 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Perma-block too for Mesmer? on top of everything else??? Come on... reign it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadMed.3846 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 It's a welcome change. Mesmers needed this balance. Use skill now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link.1049 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 > @"BadMed.3846" said: > It's a welcome change. Mesmers needed this balance. Use skill now. Mesmer was in a good place... now it's just broken... it's become just another broken spec in need of a fix. Meanwhile fixes that actually NEED to be done get left on the cutting room floor. #obstructedbygrass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalainnia.3598 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I think ppl forget just how much of a pain power Mesmers were and the actual rage/frustration they caused in the past now they effectively have just about everything they need in the defensive department and even more offensive prowess to top it off. While condi mesmers were a serious pain to fight nothing bugs me more then getting burst down while hit by some form of cc be it a stun multiple dazes knockbacks float moa etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link.1049 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Forgot nothing.... prior to patch I thought they were one of the best balanced classes in the game. They'd nail you in a heartbeat if you fell asleep in a point, and you had to have some finesse to have an even fight with them. Now... unless you catch one afk or lag-spiking they're gonna pop perma-block, clone out, shatter you, rinse wash, repeat. It took what... 2 hours for the meta to switch over to warrior/mes? 2 warriors, 2 mesmers on a team... game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Y'all should start taking toughness. I know it's been a completely useless stat for a long time since 80% of your opponents completely ignored it, but now power is run again there is a stat which reduces it's effectiveness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Illusionary disenchanter = 11k damage. 4Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rank eleven monk.9502 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Love these kneejerk threads, can't wait for a hundred more QQ-ing about mesmer (like it's been since release :) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > > @"ToPNoP.2493" said: > > stronger Mesmer, stronger soulbeast, daredevil is now obsolete. thanks for the great patch anet. maybe its time to delete this game. > > Can you quote Anet on the Soulbeast "buffs" we got? Because seriously, the general consensus on the ranger forums is that we quite literally only got bug fixes we've been waiting on since PoF came out almost half a year ago. More pets became viable...of course it's not what expected, but again the nerfs to necro/mesmer should leave soulbeast in a better position respect to before, after all condis were the main issue I'd say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Stelar.3709 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 You ppl are funny, if you can't make a difference between the real mess and the illusions and can't care less about being aware where the enemy is, you will die. I would gladly have back the condi confusion mes instead of the power-> more invis, more disengage and better mobility overall instead of this current static power mes. Git gud or git rekt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link.1049 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 > @"Flauvious.6195" said: > Y'all should start taking toughness. I know it's been a completely useless stat for a long time since 80% of your opponents completely ignored it, but now power is run again there is a stat which reduces it's effectiveness... Toughness does NOTHING for a thief... it's like giving us alacrity...useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link.1049 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Just found out that their downstate hits just as hard as them standing... wish they'd update thief downstate skills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToPNoP.2493 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 > @"Diesel Stelar.3709" said: > You ppl are funny, if you can't make a difference between the real mess and the illusions and can't care less about being aware where the enemy is, you will die. I would gladly have back the condi confusion mes instead of the power-> more invis, more disengage and better mobility overall instead of this current static power mes. Git gud or git rekt. The Mirage is a bandwagon toon, if it is too strong we just wont play against it. If pvp is still terrible, personally I will just farm gears. I have no worries on the Mesmer front, because opness is just a setting. I haven't had enough Mesmer encounters to make a guess on how strong it is, but I will say that I have beat 3 and been killed by one while roaming. I also fought 2 on my warrior (the other suddenly appeared mid fight when he seen his friend getting facerolled). Though they had a hard time with me, the settings are still new and players will need about a month to get really good. I know that thief daredevil is having a hard time with mirage (and gets 1 hit by weaver, soulbeast, and Mesmer without being able to 1 hit back) but thief has been nerfed as much as it can be without fully destroying it. If Mesmer is ever nerfed, I feel like they will be in for a rude awakening when thieves can again compete. This will happen. The hands down most annoying, non camp taking, slow, and overpowered Mirage spec is over thief, the most popular and fastest class? I don't see that lasting forever. If so, I will just quit, less money equals action, but if I'm not playing, it wont matter anyway. Right now, I'm going back power and will just smash all mesmers I see distracted, dueling or roaming, it don't matter. I hate bandwagons. Mesmer is kos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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