Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 To be fair, I don't do unrepeatable hearts either. There aren't any hearts that I enjoy enough to do once except that they gate something else: the vendor, story progress, map completion, collections, etc. There are some cool aspects of a huge number of hearts, but I object to having to remain in the same location for the amount of time required to complete them. I like helping the actors, cleaning up the dishes was hilarious, going stealth mode for the charr in Vanilla Tyria was fun... but none of that was fun doing it a dozen times in some cases (or 'several' times for stealth mode). It's like hearing your dad tell your sibling the same story he just told you... for the second time this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I do hearts for map completion, to get a specific vendor and to get a vendor to sell junk to in areas I go to often. I can’t say I do them for the lulz, not after all these years although a couple of them are enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I would have chosen: Sometimes, and not for any specific reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandrogh.1530 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I do them mostly when they are next to an event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrizzFreston.5290 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I sometimes do them just as a to help the NPCs out. As a sort of role play aspect, or when I don't find any events. I can't say I would ever do them to unlock the merchant. Maybe the first time, then I see what I want, which is mostly nothing in particular. Sometimes I just do them for the fun of it, like catching all the bugs in the raptor camp at the start of PoF. It beats the running around a city or other random location trying to find out what to do. I wish that hearts would branch out towards events, or would lead to events a bit more though. Or a bit have more persistence in the things that I just did. If I build up defenses I rather have that eventually lead to a defense event with some more rewards and scale, than just build up defenses, nothing really makes a difference no one really cares, even though they send out the same thank you letter again. I wouldn't mind if players doing hearts would permanently upgrade the area they are at. (In whichever way that makes sense. Either leading to interesting events or to more services, better defenses. Or something where it all blows up in our faces and starts over from the beginning. At least leading to something that moves away from the chores, as in you did some chores, have some epic events as a result, or now you gave people access to a tradingpost/bank/waypoint/special merchant/special bounty for the map instance for the next x minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalButt.5708 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" said: > I do hearts for map completion, to get a specific vendor and to get a vendor to sell junk to in areas I go to often. I can’t say I do them for the lulz, not after all these years although a couple of them are enjoyable. Basically this but burdened with unnecessary sarcastic remarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallesafe.5932 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Not unless I absolutely **have** to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceRaccoon.9684 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I think Siren's landing did repeatable hearts the best since completing all 5 actually rewarded you with something. I did those hearts a lot since I wanted the pearls to get all the backpieces, and they were also fun and quick to do. Other than that repeatable hearts have not really captured that interest before or since, you can't really purchase anything regularly for completing them, get nothing from completing all the hearts in a map, and many of them are way overtuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashabhi.1365 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I voted for "Only to get the vendor." Having the option to to repeat a heart is one thing, but being required to do them in order to get to the vendor sucks any enjoyment I would have had from them out of the endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardid.7203 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I do hearts when I'm also doing something else in the zone. If not... then I just skip them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Why did we get them in the first place? Was there some big hew and cry for them that I did not notice? Most people I know HATE the hearts. They either want completion or access to the vendor. At most maybe a few wanted to reset a heart on demand so they could do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autumnfrosts.6318 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I do them once for the map completion, and after that only to get to the vendor... It's a bit frustrating if all I want to do is quickly buy something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayne.8563 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I don't do repeatable hearts, unless I need to. However, I do dynamic events sometimes, which fills in hearts incidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 > @"autumnfrosts.6318" said: > I do them once for the map completion, and after that only to get to the vendor... It's a bit frustrating if all I want to do is quickly buy something. It makes sense for using karma to buy the map currency I suppose so you can buy it once a day, no more and no less. Where it breaks down is buying gathering tools or whatever. Just put that stuff in the zone's open vendor(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtpelion.4562 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I do a few of the very easy ones that happen to be on my gathering/farming routes. The extra Karma is always useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kreegan.8123 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I do hearts initially for map completion, to get access to the vendors (some of which sell items, such as spoons, needed for collections), and for the karma. I don't repeat them, at least not deliberately, except on alts going through the same maps for the first time. Too often, however, I find (and I think this is a result of the so-called "New Player Experience" redesign) I have completed hearts without even knowing I was doing them... that's like sneezing in the middle of swallowing my Scotch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joneirikb.7506 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I did all Tyria hearts once on my guardian. Now I don't do hearts, period. I may sometimes stumble across an old heart I remember had some fun mechanics (the Charr Stealth one for example) and do it a bit for old laughs, but I never try to fill a heart, ever. The only heart completes I get is if I do the event that belongs to the heart. I find Hearts a horrible design that should have been kept in the starter maps, perhaps in the 15-25 maps as well (in limited numbers), and then removed. The Orr maps have become my favorite Core maps for just that reason, and also one of the reasons I like the HOT maps. I honestly thought it was the worst 1st April joke ever when someone told me they where adding "Repeatable Hearts". But ah well, I understand that others enjoy them, so more power to them, personally I'll just never bother with them. Edit: Really hearts should just be a way to activate some local small Events or trigger specific events instead of the current iteration. Basically repeatable/trigger-able events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taelac.7036 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I do them "on purpose" if I need the vendor, but I also will finish them out if I've happened to do a nearby event and accidentally progressed it far enough to be worth it for the trickle of karma and opportunity to sell some junk. Except the raptor training one, which I sometimes do for no other reason than because it amuses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arden.7480 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 If I really, really have to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff.5312 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Almost never. The one exception is in Bitterfrost, when I'm collecting berries. I usually finish the Grawl mission just because I'm there anyway and it only takes a few minutes to kill enough trolls and rock dogs to complete it. I usually don't bother buying the extra berries from the vendor though. I just take my 625 karma and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorudo.9054 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 hearts are no different then repeatable quests, the only difference is that there is only one quest giver and doesn't contribute to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neural.1824 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Pretty sure the poll results speak for itself as to why certain collection items are locked behind doing the renown hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunarlife.5128 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I love about 50% of the LS 3 Hearts, hate 30% of them, and am neutral on the other 20%. PoF, well, that's just for the mounts and classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossaber.8934 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 They should make repeatable heart count as event. This way the repeated heart will interact with the map reward, since it is once per day you cannot farm the map reward by doing just the fast easy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWMO.4785 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 > @"autumnfrosts.6318" said: > I do them once for the map completion, and after that only to get to the vendor... It's a bit frustrating if all I want to do is quickly buy something. ^this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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