Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I was reading my combat log after I had a game where I fought a thief never went below 90% hp. On a zerk reaper. Combat log stated: You critically hit X with gravedigger for 364* damage. This should have been a 4k - 7k+ crit. I had no weakness on me and let's assume the thief had all protective buffs and heaviest tank build around.. Is this possible? Is there a way for thief to negate this much damage when critically hit? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Smiles.8951 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 GAME UPDATE NOTES: APRIL 01, 2018 Bug Fixes Ferocity now decrease the dmg you apply with a skill, in case of a crit the effect is doubled. Seriously: Sounds very low, maybe a bug? Make a ticket with a screenshot of the combat log when happens to you continually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlie.7641 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 somehow doubled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Highlie.7641" said: > shadow art's; cloaked in shadows, (can not be crit'ed while in stealth) > Shadow arts: rendering shade (10% reduction in dmg vs boonless target) > Shadow arts: resilence of shadows: (reduceds attack damage 25% in stealth) > > Deadeyes: Iron sight: (incoming damage from marked target is reduced by 15%) > Daredevil: weaking strikes: (10% reduction) > > So about a 50% reduction or 45% with dd. without any toughness. completly doable, but still highly unlikely, as that thief would of hit like a wet noodle. You wont see damage done if you hit something in stealth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlie.7641 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Highlie.7641" said: > shadow art's; cloaked in shadows, (can not be crit'ed while in stealth) > Shadow arts: rendering shade (10% reduction in dmg vs boonless target) > Shadow arts: resilence of shadows: (reduceds attack damage 25% in stealth) > > Deadeyes: Iron sight: (incoming damage from marked target is reduced by 15%) > Daredevil: weaking strikes: (10% reduction) > > So about a 50% reduction or 45% with dd. add in toughness and protection and it is completly doable. the question is? how hard was the thief hitting you for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlie.7641 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Odik.4587" said: > > @"Highlie.7641" said: > > shadow art's; cloaked in shadows, (can not be crit'ed while in stealth) > > Shadow arts: rendering shade (10% reduction in dmg vs boonless target) > > Shadow arts: resilence of shadows: (reduceds attack damage 25% in stealth) > > > > Deadeyes: Iron sight: (incoming damage from marked target is reduced by 15%) > > Daredevil: weaking strikes: (10% reduction) > > > > So about a 50% reduction or 45% with dd. without any toughness. completly doable, but still highly unlikely, as that thief would of hit like a wet noodle. > > You wont see damage done if you hit something in stealth for the most part you are right but sometimes it bug's out. and you will see stuff like 'unknown hits you for xxx' or "you hit unknown for xxx' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BABE.6384 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 what the hell ^^^^^^^ odik's picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046 Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 Thank you all for the response and breakdown.. Sounds like some of this is possible one way or other.. Will take screenshots if it ever happens again.. Mostly posted this bc i found it odd. but atleast its better then crit 0 damage, The thief didn't hit that hard mostly just used traps and condi damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Odik.4587" said: > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto Nope! The only temporary invuln we have as an individual skill is Elixir S, which we can't do anything while it's active. That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. The basic gist of it is this: * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR -------- However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). In order to accomplish this, you need to meet the following criteria: * Have protection on. * Be in Photon Forge mode. * Use Spectrum Shield. * Traited properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto > > Nope! > > That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. > > The basic gist of it is this: > > * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% > * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% > > Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! > > * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR > * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR > > However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). He arent used this -15% damage trait, it was static discharge build. If you see on screen he took full damage from confusions ,not even used Spectrum Shield... what the hell it was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Odik.4587" said: > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > > > > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto > > > > Nope! > > > > That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. > > > > The basic gist of it is this: > > > > * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% > > * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% > > > > Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! > > > > * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR > > * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR > > > > However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). > > He arent used this -15% damage trait, it was static discharge build. If you see on screen he took full damage from confusions ,not even used Spectrum Shield... what the hell it was... The -15% DR trait is on holosmith. Static discharge is on tools. Spectrum shield only does 50% DR on condi damage. Iron blooded would also mitigate condi damage by 2% per boon, but that's the max effect from condition damage reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > > > > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > > > > > > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto > > > > > > Nope! > > > > > > That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. > > > > > > The basic gist of it is this: > > > > > > * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% > > > * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% > > > > > > Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! > > > > > > * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR > > > * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR > > > > > > However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). > > > > He arent used this -15% damage trait, it was static discharge build. If you see on screen he took full damage from confusions ,not even used Spectrum Shield... what the hell it was... > > The -15% DR trait is on holosmith. Static discharge is on tools. > > Spectrum shield only does 50% DR on condi damage. Iron blooded would also mitigate condi damage by 2% per boon, but that's the max effect from condition damage reduction. I know what you say but he didnt ran this -15% trait ,i dont know engis that bored enough to test it , i specced for power build ,not for condi , so i doubt my confusions supposed to be 50% stronger there + iron blooded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 maybe target had protection and great dwarf 50% damage redution as well ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Aeolus.3615" said: > maybe target had protection and great dwarf 50% damage redution as well ?? > In 1x1 duel... sneaky revenants mate... (also i doubt there is anything that reduce damage to 0...something went wrong there xD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 > @"Odik.4587" said: > > @"Aeolus.3615" said: > > maybe target had protection and great dwarf 50% damage redution as well ?? > > > > In 1x1 duel... sneaky revenants mate... (also i doubt there is anything that reduce damage to 0...something went wrong there xD) Well damage reducers dont stack :P that's true. Maybe a jalis rev passed by and puled it, that why payign atention or screen/record the situation fast (maybe a keybind) can be helpfull to understand what targets have on them, then if boons/class traits dont make sense for damage reducing well that something that actually needs to be questioned.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bast.7253 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 If it’s an acro thief and it procs evasion at 20% or whatever health could that be it? If its sword dagger it’s most likely traited for the invuln evasion skill that triggers at low health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto > > Nope! The only temporary invuln we have as an individual skill is Elixir S, which we can't do anything while it's active. > > That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. > > The basic gist of it is this: > > * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% > * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% > > Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! > > * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR > * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR > > -------- > > However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). In order to accomplish this, you need to meet the following criteria: > > * Have protection on. > * Be in Photon Forge mode. > * Use Spectrum Shield. > * Traited properly. Damage reduction does not stack additively it would add more like this: Someone attacks you for 1000 damage. Protection reduces it by 33% to 667 damage. Spectrum shield reduces it by 50% to 334 damage. Light density amplifier reduces it by another 15% to 284 Iron blood...not a clue whether is a final value of 2% per boon so 5 boons would be a flat 10% or it has diminishing returns as above but regardless at this point it’s making very little difference, a 10% reduction would only mitigate 28.4 damage. It would be more like 72% damage reduction where protection and spectrum shield does most of the work. It’s impossible to get 100% damage reduction (or supposed to be) by stacking damage reduction effects. The only way to get 100% damage reduction is when it explicitly states so on a skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario.8964 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 > @"Odik.4587" said: > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > > > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > > > > > > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > > > > > > > > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto > > > > > > > > Nope! > > > > > > > > That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. > > > > > > > > The basic gist of it is this: > > > > > > > > * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% > > > > * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% > > > > > > > > Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! > > > > > > > > * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR > > > > * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR > > > > > > > > However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). > > > > > > He arent used this -15% damage trait, it was static discharge build. If you see on screen he took full damage from confusions ,not even used Spectrum Shield... what the hell it was... > > > > The -15% DR trait is on holosmith. Static discharge is on tools. > > > > Spectrum shield only does 50% DR on condi damage. Iron blooded would also mitigate condi damage by 2% per boon, but that's the max effect from condition damage reduction. > > I know what you say but he didnt ran this -15% trait ,i dont know engis that bored enough to test it , i specced for power build ,not for condi , so i doubt my confusions supposed to be 50% stronger there + iron blooded. I think this is the build he was going for (or something very similar): http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAsenUUB1Uh1IDGJDcJjFSDrf/FAPgjBgmzzRsVEcOOA-jJxHABiv/w3PAA9LDAwJAAA I did tests with a build similar to this and was able to maintain almost a permanent 50% damage reduction to power damage (before spectrum shield was applied). Incredible damage due to nearly permanent quickness, spammable damage through static discharge, and lots of tankiness from straight damage reductions with moderate condi cleanse to deal with random condi application or very carefully let you fight condi focused builds. Hope this was at least somewhat helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario.8964 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 > @"apharma.3741" said: > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > > > > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto > > > > Nope! The only temporary invuln we have as an individual skill is Elixir S, which we can't do anything while it's active. > > > > That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. > > > > The basic gist of it is this: > > > > * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% > > * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% > > > > Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! > > > > * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR > > * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR > > > > -------- > > > > However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). In order to accomplish this, you need to meet the following criteria: > > > > * Have protection on. > > * Be in Photon Forge mode. > > * Use Spectrum Shield. > > * Traited properly. > > Damage reduction does not stack additively it would add more like this: > Someone attacks you for 1000 damage. > Protection reduces it by 33% to 667 damage. > Spectrum shield reduces it by 50% to 334 damage. > Light density amplifier reduces it by another 15% to 284 > Iron blood...not a clue whether is a final value of 2% per boon so 5 boons would be a flat 10% or it has diminishing returns as above but regardless at this point it’s making very little difference, a 10% reduction would only mitigate 28.4 damage. > It would be more like 72% damage reduction where protection and spectrum shield does most of the work. > > It’s impossible to get 100% damage reduction (or supposed to be) by stacking damage reduction effects. The only way to get 100% damage reduction is when it explicitly states so on a skill. I've tested this and it's additive. I can get 100% damage reduction with engi builds using iron blooded, prot, and spectrum shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 > @"Ario.8964" said: > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > > > > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto > > > > > > > > > > Nope! > > > > > > > > > > That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. > > > > > > > > > > The basic gist of it is this: > > > > > > > > > > * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% > > > > > * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% > > > > > > > > > > Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! > > > > > > > > > > * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR > > > > > * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR > > > > > > > > > > However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). > > > > > > > > He arent used this -15% damage trait, it was static discharge build. If you see on screen he took full damage from confusions ,not even used Spectrum Shield... what the hell it was... > > > > > > The -15% DR trait is on holosmith. Static discharge is on tools. > > > > > > Spectrum shield only does 50% DR on condi damage. Iron blooded would also mitigate condi damage by 2% per boon, but that's the max effect from condition damage reduction. > > > > I know what you say but he didnt ran this -15% trait ,i dont know engis that bored enough to test it , i specced for power build ,not for condi , so i doubt my confusions supposed to be 50% stronger there + iron blooded. > > I think this is the build he was going for (or something very similar): > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAsenUUB1Uh1IDGJDcJjFSDrf/FAPgjBgmzzRsVEcOOA-jJxHABiv/w3PAA9LDAwJAAA > > I did tests with a build similar to this and was able to maintain almost a permanent 50% damage reduction to power damage (before spectrum shield was applied). Incredible damage due to nearly permanent quickness, spammable damage through static discharge, and lots of tankiness from straight damage reductions with moderate condi cleanse to deal with random condi application or very carefully let you fight condi focused builds. Hope this was at least somewhat helpful. > I found out build he was using , seen him yday http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUnUUBFJj1UBmXBcJjlKDTcZEAKPjfg1T7p/C+BHhA-jpQSABfWGAg9HAA My fault for thinking he didnt use damage reduction xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD > I've tested this and it's additive. I can get 100% damage reduction with engi builds using iron blooded, prot, and spectrum shield. So damage became 0 ? lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 > @"Ario.8964" said: > > @"apharma.3741" said: > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > > > > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > > > > > > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto > > > > > > Nope! The only temporary invuln we have as an individual skill is Elixir S, which we can't do anything while it's active. > > > > > > That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. > > > > > > The basic gist of it is this: > > > > > > * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% > > > * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% > > > > > > Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! > > > > > > * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR > > > * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). In order to accomplish this, you need to meet the following criteria: > > > > > > * Have protection on. > > > * Be in Photon Forge mode. > > > * Use Spectrum Shield. > > > * Traited properly. > > > > Damage reduction does not stack additively it would add more like this: > > Someone attacks you for 1000 damage. > > Protection reduces it by 33% to 667 damage. > > Spectrum shield reduces it by 50% to 334 damage. > > Light density amplifier reduces it by another 15% to 284 > > Iron blood...not a clue whether is a final value of 2% per boon so 5 boons would be a flat 10% or it has diminishing returns as above but regardless at this point it’s making very little difference, a 10% reduction would only mitigate 28.4 damage. > > It would be more like 72% damage reduction where protection and spectrum shield does most of the work. > > > > It’s impossible to get 100% damage reduction (or supposed to be) by stacking damage reduction effects. The only way to get 100% damage reduction is when it explicitly states so on a skill. > > I've tested this and it's additive. I can get 100% damage reduction with engi builds using iron blooded, prot, and spectrum shield. Then it’s a bug because this happened with revs right of the great dwarf, it isn’t meant to stack additively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaga.5174 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 > @"apharma.3741" said: > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > @"Miles Smiles.8951" said: > > > > > You sure it wasn't a Holo? I did a two digit crit to a Holo today :D > > > > > > > > Totally plausible it would've been a holo. Spectrum shield + protection can result in numbers like that. > > > > > > Does engi have endure pain as warrior does btw? https://imgur.com/a/YCFto > > > > Nope! The only temporary invuln we have as an individual skill is Elixir S, which we can't do anything while it's active. > > > > That's actually a potential combination of several traits, boons, and skills working together. > > > > The basic gist of it is this: > > > > * Protection (boon) reduces damage by 33% > > * Spectrum Shield reduces damage by 50% > > > > Right there we're at 83% damage reduction. Then we can throw in a few traits to spice it up! > > > > * Light Density Amplifier -- 15% damage reduction while in Photon Forge -> 98% DR > > * Iron Blooded -- 2% damage reduction per boon on the engineer = >100% DR > > > > -------- > > > > However, let it be noted that this requires a very specific set of traits and skills that are not meta, and spectrum shield only lasts 4 seconds with a significant cooldown (40s) if you're not under the effects of >50% heat (20s if you are). In order to accomplish this, you need to meet the following criteria: > > > > * Have protection on. > > * Be in Photon Forge mode. > > * Use Spectrum Shield. > > * Traited properly. > > Damage reduction does not stack additively it would add more like this: > Someone attacks you for 1000 damage. > Protection reduces it by 33% to 667 damage. > Spectrum shield reduces it by 50% to 334 damage. > Light density amplifier reduces it by another 15% to 284 > Iron blood...not a clue whether is a final value of 2% per boon so 5 boons would be a flat 10% or it has diminishing returns as above but regardless at this point it’s making very little difference, a 10% reduction would only mitigate 28.4 damage. > It would be more like 72% damage reduction where protection and spectrum shield does most of the work. > > It’s impossible to get 100% damage reduction (or supposed to be) by stacking damage reduction effects. The only way to get 100% damage reduction is when it explicitly states so on a skill. Thumbs up, saved me a post ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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