Emtiarbi.3281 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 # Mesmer * Bountiful Disillusionment: The stability duration for this trait has been reduced from 3 seconds to 1 second in PvP and WvW. * Illusionary Defense: The damage reduction per stack this trait applies is now split between game modes and has been reduced from -5% per stack to -2% in PvP and WvW. * Phantasmal Defender: The tooltip for this skill now shows the correct damage the skill inflicts in PvE. Its damage has been reduced by 50% in PvP and WvW. * Phantasmal Disenchanter: The damage of this skill has been reduced by 50% in PvP and WvW. * Phantasmal Warlock: The damage of this skill has been reduced by 50% in PvP and WvW. * Echo of Memory: Reduced the damage inflicted by the illusionary avenger by 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos.7460 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 omg RIP Mesma not playable anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1s stab on BD is a bit harsh for any build that isn't chrono. They may as well just go ahead and delete the stab altogether/replace it with something else. iWarlock nerf is a little confusing - in my experience it wasn't that powerful. Anyway I'm ok with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPESHAL.9106 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 > @"Arkantos.7460" said: > omg RIP Mesma not playable anymore Only for baddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assic.2746 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Those are some serious nerfs to chronomancer. Last patch Chronophantasma was nerfed by 50%. Now we get nerfs to major illusion summoning skills what makes Chronophantasma even weaker. Resummoned illusions will deal 25% of what they used to not so long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NecroN.8306 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I'm done with my Mesmer. Every month or two Anet has a new "balance" nerf proving the Dev's obviously have NO CLUE what the hell they are doing. This has turned into such a joke that I've played Pay to Win games with more balance than this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlette.9684 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Strangely OK with the patch. I mean you really didn't think that the HoT spec would stay, looming over the currently marketed PoF spec for long, did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansau.7326 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 They could simply remove the stab in BD instead of giving only 1s. It is utterly pointless in the current state... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroatheist.9031 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 The only question mark for me is the warlock. It already kinda sucked, not sure why they're kicking it while it's down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I agree with pyro. Nerfing warlock was a really strange move, and I think that 50% damage nerf to avenger is also too big of a nerf to that phantasm. I also agree with @"Curunen.8729" that nerfing the stab even further on BD is an awful "solution" that unfairly targets core mesmer and mirage, who have very few sources of stab to begin with. That said, I am very happy that disenchanter and defender finally got their damage nerfed in PvP/WvW, we definitely needed that. But I would have liked illusionary defense to be nerfed to 3% per stack instead of 2% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I can say this. Mesmer will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Also, why was avenger nerfed in all game modes, when the other phantasm nerfs were only for PvP/WvW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlette.9684 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 > @"OriOri.8724" said: > Also, why was avenger nerfed in all game modes, when the other phantasm nerfs were only for PvP/WvW? Maybe a typo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 > @"Mini Crinny.6190" said: > I can say this. > > Mesmer will be just fine. To be fair you could remove 2-3 core traitlines from the game entirely and most classes would be "just fine", because the class would still have solid/meta build options remaining. Yeah mesmer is more than fine, but that doesn't justify odd balance decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Everybody asking for mesmer nerfs for mulitple months, the serious nerfs finally arrive and now it's the biggest mistake they've ever made. Learn to live with it. It has nothing to do with the fact that a HoT spec was strong, that's conspiracy theory level lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansau.7326 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Yep, Warlock is a joke now. Less than 3k damage from channeling x3 attacks from 2 sources, with 2.5k power, 200% critical damage and some might stacks on me... ![](https://imgur.com/GMp25Kf.jpg "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > Everybody asking for mesmer nerfs for mulitple months, the serious nerfs finally arrive and now it's the biggest mistake they've ever made. > > Learn to live with it. It has nothing to do with the fact that a HoT spec was strong, that's conspiracy theory level lmao That is not what people are saying. Learn to read a thread before criticizing the comments in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunTzu.4513 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Don't get the avenger nerf on the pve side. Imo it wasn't op at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlette.9684 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > Everybody asking for mesmer nerfs for mulitple months, the serious nerfs finally arrive and now it's the biggest mistake they've ever made. > > Learn to live with it. It has nothing to do with the fact that a HoT spec was strong, that's conspiracy theory level lmao You have obviously never been involved in corporate level decision making. Profit is the name of the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 i agree with every nerf DONE beside the staff 3 nerf, they should of nerf/tweaked Torch 5 because it would of helped with the condi mirage issue imo. Other then that gooooooooooooood balance patch over :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > Everybody asking for mesmer nerfs for mulitple months, the serious nerfs finally arrive and now it's the **biggest mistake they've ever made.** > > Learn to live with it. It has nothing to do with the fact that a HoT spec was strong, that's conspiracy theory level lmao lol - more like "^shrug^ strange choice, anyway moving on". Your post would be applicable if they did something like put Blurred Frenzy on a 60s cooldown. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague Memory.2817 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Wow, why don't they just delete Mesmer. I don't get it, it's okay to have unkillable warrs that hit like a truck, Engi chaining CC with holosmith's ridiculous damage, or necro reaper/scourge obscene power/condi damage but Mesmer gets nerfed to mid-tier damage. The nerfing is the steepest I've seen. They like their 50% reduction on everything. After so many years and still no idea what they want Mes to be. These nerfs are beyond dacronian. I'm already having to run zerk to try and stay competitive with other classes damage in PvP. What now FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowjob.7245 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 > @"OriOri.8724" said: > > @"Blocki.4931" said: > > Everybody asking for mesmer nerfs for mulitple months, the serious nerfs finally arrive and now it's the biggest mistake they've ever made. > > > > Learn to live with it. It has nothing to do with the fact that a HoT spec was strong, that's conspiracy theory level lmao > > That is not what people are saying. Learn to read a thread before criticizing the comments in it Chrono was banned from a recent streamer tourney because it was so ridiculous. I think it got exactly what people were asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 > @"OriOri.8724" said: > I agree with pyro. Nerfing warlock was a really strange move, and I think that 50% damage nerf to avenger is also too big of a nerf to that phantasm. > > I also agree with @"Curunen.8729" that nerfing the stab even further on BD is an awful "solution" that unfairly targets core mesmer and mirage, who have very few sources of stab to begin with. > > That said, I am very happy that disenchanter and defender finally got their damage nerfed in PvP/WvW, we definitely needed that. But I would have liked illusionary defense to be nerfed to 3% per stack instead of 2% Why you expect something else from anet way of balance things ? Thats been obvious from the point where they refused to rework CP that everything would end up with 50% damage nerf on everything (phantasmal defender wouldnt ever be defensive ,not even dream about it) . Yes 50% damage nerf on staff is a good meme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urejt.5648 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 very good changes. Warlock should deal slightly less dmg than other comparable skills because player gains tons of beneftits from spawning extra phatasms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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