Impossible odds late complaint

[Lahmia.2193]

This was a fine example of Anet wanting to create something (Brutality in this case), but realising one skill or trait will make it too powerful (Impossible Odds) and so instead of rethinking the new idea, they just nerf the obstacle.

 

Or am I just mad and missing something here?

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

No, you've pretty much got it. On the one hand, the change ti IO means that it is now a DPS increase in PVE if you're on a team with permanent quickness. On the other hand, every other facet of the game suffers greatly because of this change.

[Rym.1469]

I believe the process was the other way around. They wanted IO changed first for PvE and then came up with the quickness trait in attempt to restore some of the lost quickness.

[Lahmia.2193]

> @"Rym.1469" said:

> I believe the process was the other way around. They wanted IO changed first for PvE and then came up with the quickness trait in attempt to restore some of the lost quickness.

 

They already added a bonus damage of like 10% to IO though, which they have now removed. Seems like they could have just upped that a bit to help pve instead of ruining everywhere else.

[narcx.3570]

> @"Lahmia.2193" said:

> > @"Rym.1469" said:

> > I believe the process was the other way around. They wanted IO changed first for PvE and then came up with the quickness trait in attempt to restore some of the lost quickness.

>

> They already added a bonus damage of like 10% to IO though, which they have now removed. Seems like they could have just upped that a bit to help pve instead of ruining everywhere else.

 

I think the IO change was also (mostly) a subtle backdoor nerf to hammer rev's in WvW zergs and vs double Scourge sPvP teams... Tons of hard QQ about it at the time--despite there being 10 scourges for every 1 hammer rev you'd see.

 

But I guess it sort of makes sense from a business standpoint since 1200 range burst dps is the hard counter to scourges, and new PoF specs sell more copies if they're not getting curb stomped into the ground by meme builds from 2 years ago. :trollface:

[LucianDK.8615]

so much unreasonable hate for revenants.

[Justine.6351]

I actually kind of like it. Phase Traversal got 3 second quickness so if you push a target with it you don't need to activate Impossible Odds to cleave, or you can and super cleave.

[XxsdgxX.8109]

> @"Justine.6351" said:

> I actually kind of like it. Phase Traversal got 3 second quickness so if you push a target with it you don't need to activate Impossible Odds to cleave, or you can and super cleave.

 

This is correct

The damage potential is actually better now although much trickier to do.

[reikken.4961]

yeah I was 99% sure the change was to make power rev not shit in pve

still needs a lot more, though

[Artorias.8271]

Do I only have a lag between superspeed apply in IO? Character slowsdown speed up, continuously. Its cery frustrating, I dont even talk about upkeep bug > -

[Clownmug.8357]

> @"Artorias.8271" said:

> Do I only have a lag between superspeed apply in IO? Character slowsdown speed up, continuously. Its cery frustrating, I dont even talk about upkeep bug > - <

 

Yeah, I noticed it too. It'd be nice if there was extra 1/2 second added as a buffer.