Ertrak.9506 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Dear gods that poll distribution lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitarskee.5738 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Only played PvE but mesmer is stupidly strong in comparison to other classes damage-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperadordf.2687 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Mesmer is so OP that even it's threads are cloning themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eekasqueak.7850 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 > @"sitarskee.5738" said: > Only played PvE but mesmer is stupidly strong in comparison to other classes damage-wise. Why'd you vote Thief then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitarskee.5738 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > > @"sitarskee.5738" said: > > Only played PvE but mesmer is stupidly strong in comparison to other classes damage-wise. > > Why'd you vote Thief then? One would say it was a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Go figure it's Mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 ppl who vote for warrior are bad mesmer mains that get stomped by spellbreaker honestly its so satisfying seeing that most of us agree on how absurd mesmer has gotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 LOL buncha mes qq. guard hands down. has always had good pve dps, must have (repeat MUST HAVE) in wvw since the dawn of time, and has been in pretty much every single meta team in pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIHL.2489 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Well.. before I played one.. I would have said a thief.. now that I have played.. I am going to say a Thief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchwreck.2357 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Mesmer was the first 80, at first I couldn't stop playing it because it was like the god toons that devs and mods pull out in other games to mess around with the players. I stopped playing mine because it was like the god toons that devs and mods pull out in other games.... got a little boring, and this was before the last buff. I still pull him out every once and a wile because I like watching him pop 5 mobs in 3 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > LOL buncha mes qq. guard hands down. has always had good pve dps, must have (repeat MUST HAVE) in wvw since the dawn of time, and has been in pretty much every single meta team in pvp. just because its needed because of the boons it can pump out doesnt mean its op, its just that hes the only one that can do it, and those boons are the only way to stay alive with the power creep thats going on, its not fault of the guard, hes just the only one that can provide what is needed and mesmer is pretty much needed in any other gamemode aswell, even in zergs mesmer is somewhat needed, even if it was just for the veil, in roaming mesmer is alot stronger than guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirnale.5914 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Mesmer. No matter how hard I think I find no way to beat them if they are half decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeftheWicked.3076 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I haven't been to the game for a month or two. But i voted mesmer cause it's meta in just about everything. I check vote results. Hm...guess my knowledge ain't outdated xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayra.7405 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 All are overpowered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delriaan.7854 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 For WvW, one would think the Ele (my main) would be ranked higher based on the number of skill + wpn combos available; however, it's simply the case that the primary problem with the Ele mechanics is the conceptual approach to harnessing the elements and using the elements. The GW1 skills from Nightfall and Factions had much more "OP-ability" (remember "Searing Flames"?). In GW2, the Ele feels more like trying to play a warrior with elements instead of standard weapons (and with much less armor). If a WvW squad were spec'd out like the Hero tab, the Ele would fill one of the accessory slots or off-hand weapon slot at best >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Mesmer is clearly the answer... In PvP it's been very strong since Mirage, Chrono was still relevant. In WvW it's also a very utilitarian class, and the burst potential is carried on from PvP. In Instanced content, Chronomancer is one of the staple, nearly mandatory classes used across the board for it's support potential, and both Chrono and Mirage can be used for top-tier DPS. In open world it's the most utilitarian class, being used constantly to skip content in Jumping Puzzles, it's only problem is a relatively weak AoE potential, but that's overcome by it's evasion and massive single-target damage. You can't escape Mesmer basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rysdude.3824 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Yep, Mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > LOL buncha mes qq. guard hands down. has always had good pve dps, must have (repeat MUST HAVE) in wvw since the dawn of time, and has been in pretty much every single meta team in pvp. > > just because its needed because of the boons it can pump out doesnt mean its op, its just that hes the only one that can do it, and those boons are the only way to stay alive with the power creep thats going on, its not fault of the guard, hes just the only one that can provide what is needed > > and mesmer is pretty much needed in any other gamemode aswell, even in zergs mesmer is somewhat needed, even if it was just for the veil, in roaming mesmer is alot stronger than guard lol... just because of the boons. right. what about the insane heals / condi clears / reflects / overall tankiness. they are the linchpin in zergs. in roaming, guard counters mes lol. mes may be stronger overall but its kinda funny you bring that up. so mes beats guard in roaming, which isnt even a game mode, and guard wins pretty much everywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eekasqueak.7850 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > LOL buncha mes qq. guard hands down. has always had good pve dps, must have (repeat MUST HAVE) in wvw since the dawn of time, and has been in pretty much every single meta team in pvp. > > > > just because its needed because of the boons it can pump out doesnt mean its op, its just that hes the only one that can do it, and those boons are the only way to stay alive with the power creep thats going on, its not fault of the guard, hes just the only one that can provide what is needed > > > > and mesmer is pretty much needed in any other gamemode aswell, even in zergs mesmer is somewhat needed, even if it was just for the veil, in roaming mesmer is alot stronger than guard > > lol... just because of the boons. right. what about the insane heals / condi clears / reflects / overall tankiness. they are the linchpin in zergs. in roaming, guard counters mes lol. mes may be stronger overall but its kinda funny you bring that up. so mes beats guard in roaming, which isnt even a game mode, and guard wins pretty much everywhere else. Can't tell if trolling because you don't want mesmer nerfed or just a bad mesmer player. Outside if WvW Chronomancer is the most wanted support class, period, and Mirage is like thief but better. Guardian doesn't really push into any other profession's territory in such a direct way. Sure Guardian is good but not OP good. Mesmer can just do some of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > LOL buncha mes qq. guard hands down. has always had good pve dps, must have (repeat MUST HAVE) in wvw since the dawn of time, and has been in pretty much every single meta team in pvp. > > > > > > just because its needed because of the boons it can pump out doesnt mean its op, its just that hes the only one that can do it, and those boons are the only way to stay alive with the power creep thats going on, its not fault of the guard, hes just the only one that can provide what is needed > > > > > > and mesmer is pretty much needed in any other gamemode aswell, even in zergs mesmer is somewhat needed, even if it was just for the veil, in roaming mesmer is alot stronger than guard > > > > lol... just because of the boons. right. what about the insane heals / condi clears / reflects / overall tankiness. they are the linchpin in zergs. in roaming, guard counters mes lol. mes may be stronger overall but its kinda funny you bring that up. so mes beats guard in roaming, which isnt even a game mode, and guard wins pretty much everywhere else. > > Can't tell if trolling because you don't want mesmer nerfed or just a bad mesmer player. Outside if WvW Chronomancer is the most wanted support class, period, and Mirage is like thief but better. Guardian doesn't really push into any other profession's territory in such a direct way. Sure Guardian is good but not OP good. Mesmer can just do some of everything. so by outside of wvw you mean pve. ok. you guys dont get it. guard in wvw and arguably in pvp as well, has been MANDATORY. has always had a spot in pve as far as i can tell. ok mes is really good support in pve, fine. mandatory in pvp? maybe, but just because of portal. in wvw? no. this thread is about overall OPness not your tears or one thing or another, look at the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eekasqueak.7850 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > > LOL buncha mes qq. guard hands down. has always had good pve dps, must have (repeat MUST HAVE) in wvw since the dawn of time, and has been in pretty much every single meta team in pvp. > > > > > > > > just because its needed because of the boons it can pump out doesnt mean its op, its just that hes the only one that can do it, and those boons are the only way to stay alive with the power creep thats going on, its not fault of the guard, hes just the only one that can provide what is needed > > > > > > > > and mesmer is pretty much needed in any other gamemode aswell, even in zergs mesmer is somewhat needed, even if it was just for the veil, in roaming mesmer is alot stronger than guard > > > > > > lol... just because of the boons. right. what about the insane heals / condi clears / reflects / overall tankiness. they are the linchpin in zergs. in roaming, guard counters mes lol. mes may be stronger overall but its kinda funny you bring that up. so mes beats guard in roaming, which isnt even a game mode, and guard wins pretty much everywhere else. > > > > Can't tell if trolling because you don't want mesmer nerfed or just a bad mesmer player. Outside if WvW Chronomancer is the most wanted support class, period, and Mirage is like thief but better. Guardian doesn't really push into any other profession's territory in such a direct way. Sure Guardian is good but not OP good. Mesmer can just do some of everything. > > so by outside of wvw you mean pve. ok. > you guys dont get it. guard in wvw and arguably in pvp as well, has been MANDATORY. has always had a spot in pve as far as i can tell. ok mes is really good support in pve, fine. mandatory in pvp? maybe, but just because of portal. in wvw? no. > this thread is about overall OPness not your tears or one thing or another, look at the big picture. You're the one not looking at the big picture though, one is good in 1-2 game modes, the other is in -all- modes. Even by your own description as flawed as it is it makes a better case for Mesmer being OP than Guardian. It's not some fluke that almost everyone voted mesmer. What makes you think you know better than everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateless gate.8406 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Mesmer. Game balance is actually a joke right now. I'm betting 75% of the dev team main mesmers, and the marketing team wants to keep them OP because their theme/visuals are unique to GW2. Best tank: Mesmer Best support: Mesmer Best sPVP class: Mesmer Most wanted fractal class: Mesmer Both condi and power specs achieving 35k DPS: Mesmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > > > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > > > LOL buncha mes qq. guard hands down. has always had good pve dps, must have (repeat MUST HAVE) in wvw since the dawn of time, and has been in pretty much every single meta team in pvp. > > > > > > > > > > just because its needed because of the boons it can pump out doesnt mean its op, its just that hes the only one that can do it, and those boons are the only way to stay alive with the power creep thats going on, its not fault of the guard, hes just the only one that can provide what is needed > > > > > > > > > > and mesmer is pretty much needed in any other gamemode aswell, even in zergs mesmer is somewhat needed, even if it was just for the veil, in roaming mesmer is alot stronger than guard > > > > > > > > lol... just because of the boons. right. what about the insane heals / condi clears / reflects / overall tankiness. they are the linchpin in zergs. in roaming, guard counters mes lol. mes may be stronger overall but its kinda funny you bring that up. so mes beats guard in roaming, which isnt even a game mode, and guard wins pretty much everywhere else. > > > > > > Can't tell if trolling because you don't want mesmer nerfed or just a bad mesmer player. Outside if WvW Chronomancer is the most wanted support class, period, and Mirage is like thief but better. Guardian doesn't really push into any other profession's territory in such a direct way. Sure Guardian is good but not OP good. Mesmer can just do some of everything. > > > > so by outside of wvw you mean pve. ok. > > you guys dont get it. guard in wvw and arguably in pvp as well, has been MANDATORY. has always had a spot in pve as far as i can tell. ok mes is really good support in pve, fine. mandatory in pvp? maybe, but just because of portal. in wvw? no. > > this thread is about overall OPness not your tears or one thing or another, look at the big picture. > > You're the one not looking at the big picture though, one is good in 1-2 game modes, the other is in -all- modes. Even by your own description as flawed as it is it makes a better case for Mesmer being OP than Guardian. It's not some fluke that almost everyone voted mesmer. What makes you think you know better than everyone? 1-2? lol what are you talking about. core, dh, and fb have good builds in all game modes. can mes say the same? no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 > @"Clownmug.8357" said: > Mesmer used to be my main/favorite profession, but it no longer resembles what I started playing 5+ years ago. It's all spammy and twitchy now like some kind of magic-based thief. I love the way mirage plays. Twitchy magic based thief sounds like a great description of them. They do need some nerfs, of course. I just hope they can maintain the feel of it, because it's one of the most enjoyable styles I've tried in an mmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 My god that distribution of the poll is just..wow! I really think they need to do a massive re-balance patch.. look at what skills could do around 2-3 years ago, and rebalance..well, everything. i know it wont happen..but it would be beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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