TheDevice.2751 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I mean they haven't really gotten their time in the spotlight really? (apparently, they were broken after release which I must have missed but will take everyone else's word for it.) I'm being 100% genuine. I don't think there is any chance of balance in this game. I'm pretty much agreeing with what everyone else has said about this game as far as that. So, instead of asking for balance in other classes (will never happen), can you guys just make Reaper SB-level broken next patch. Something similar. Or even more so. I'd like to just experience it and not have to try so hard for wins and gold. Thanks! ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rym.1469 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Reaper has been broken for months after HoT. Never wish any class to be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 The days of Merc amulet signet necros which chill ticking for 642 damage. Never again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Power Reaper really isn't in that bad of a spot right now. The biggest thing holding it back from being top tier is mostly because Scourge is heavily run and hard counters Power Reaper. Like if there were less scourges and Reapers had a way to consistently disengage from fights gone poorly they would be an incredibly dominant spec. As of right now they're solidly B tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said: > The days of Merc amulet signet necros which chill ticking for 642 damage. > Never again Given that Signets of Suffering no longer grants boon corrupt, deathly chill no longer affects chill, and merc amulet no longer exists, I'd say that the likelihood of merc signet chillomancers ever returning is 0%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 > @"Crinn.7864" said: > > @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said: > > The days of Merc amulet signet necros which chill ticking for 642 damage. > > Never again > > Given that Signets of Suffering no longer grants boon corrupt, deathly chill no longer affects chill, and merc amulet no longer exists, I'd say that the likelihood of merc signet chillomancers ever returning is 0%. It was hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 hmm maybe add multiple knock back to rs2, make rs5 5 targets, double soul eater hp and lf gain (tics in rs). call it a day. ah and ofc add a 900 range leap to gs2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi.6027 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 They did okay, I don’t want anything to be broken... The problem is compared to a lot of the more tricky classes, the counter play is so much more obvious and every build has an easier time implementing it... Not to mention it’s super easy to focus, and people will focus it anyways worried you may be a scourge. Like anything if you want it to be broken it needs to be able to consistently sit on point 2-3v1 and can safely keep healing to full. (Plz don’t do this...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emapudapus.1307 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 To try to make reaper equally viable as scourage, they would have to start by enabling healing trough shroud and being able to use utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizardauz.3761 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Reaper just needs less 1-dimensional. Being an HP-Sponge is not enough to cover over the fact of not having enough defensive/utility/cleanse. Without any access to Resistance/Invuln/Blocking/Evasion/Mobility were actually not that tanky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever.8150 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Reaper is probably one of the more balanced build right now, excels at some situation but has clear weaknesses. Its the "can virtually do everything" builds that need to be brought down to its level, not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brannigan.9831 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 > @"mortrialus.3062" said: > Power Reaper really isn't in that bad of a spot right now. The biggest thing holding it back from being top tier is mostly because Scourge is heavily run and hard counters Power Reaper. Like if there were less scourges and Reapers had a way to consistently disengage from fights gone poorly they would be an incredibly dominant spec. As of right now they're solidly B tier. Power reapers are easily picked out and killed especially at the beginning of matches when they have no life force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brannigan.9831 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I would be happy if they would just revert all the nerfs to life force regeneration and put shroud back to the old cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 > @"brannigan.9831" said: > > @"mortrialus.3062" said: > > Power Reaper really isn't in that bad of a spot right now. The biggest thing holding it back from being top tier is mostly because Scourge is heavily run and hard counters Power Reaper. Like if there were less scourges and Reapers had a way to consistently disengage from fights gone poorly they would be an incredibly dominant spec. As of right now they're solidly B tier. > > Power reapers are easily picked out and killed especially at the beginning of matches when they have no life force. > That's true of every flavor of necromancer that has ever existed in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 > @"TheDevice.2751" said: > I mean they haven't really gotten their time in the spotlight really? > > I'm being 100% genuine. I don't think there is any chance of balance in this game. I'm pretty much agreeing with what everyone else has said about this game as far as that. > > So, instead of asking for balance in other classes (will never happen), can you guys just make Reaper SB-level broken next patch. Something similar. Or even more so. I'd like to just experience it and not have to try so hard for wins and gold. > > Thanks! ^_^ Not quite true that... Reaper had it's moment in the spotlight somewhere around Season 3-5... Not sure which, been a while... I remember soloing 3-4 guys with relative ease, using Greatsword+sc/f Condi Reaper with Deathly Chill trait (plus some of the other cool synergies it has with traits). But then the trait was nerfed, and so were a lot of Reaper's Interactions, including the Shroud being weaker now, which was the main point of using Reaper, priming enemies with chill from GS, then just wailing on them with Reaper Shroud, while tanking their damage through Life Force Generation and taking advantage of when Infusing Terror pulsed stability, instead of just giving a couple stacks. Back then, Reaper was almost true to its design, it was an immobile but unmovable force of nature, now it's a bit of a joke, because Necro can't be strong, it disrupts the balance of the universe, the only classes allowed to be broken are Mesmers, Eles and Warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizardauz.3761 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 > @"Griever.8150" said: > Reaper is probably one of the more balanced build right now, excels at some situation but has clear weaknesses. Its the "can virtually do everything" builds that need to be brought down to its level, not the other way around. Wait. Other classes were designed with a clear defined weakness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 > @"ReaverKane.7598" said: > > @"TheDevice.2751" said: > > I mean they haven't really gotten their time in the spotlight really? > > > > I'm being 100% genuine. I don't think there is any chance of balance in this game. I'm pretty much agreeing with what everyone else has said about this game as far as that. > > > > So, instead of asking for balance in other classes (will never happen), can you guys just make Reaper SB-level broken next patch. Something similar. Or even more so. I'd like to just experience it and not have to try so hard for wins and gold. > > > > Thanks! ^_^ > > Not quite true that... Reaper had it's moment in the spotlight somewhere around Season 3-5... Not sure which, been a while... Condi Reaper was both a solo-queue and tourney monster between the Q1 2016 patch (that's the patch that added boon corrupt to all necro weapons) and the Q2 2016 patch (that's the patch that removed chill damage, nerfed Infusing Terror, and heavily nerfed all of reaper's chill durations) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevice.2751 Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 > @"Rym.1469" said: > Reaper has been broken for months after HoT. > > Never wish any class to be broken. Oh fair enough. I wasn't actually playing when they were broken at that point. So I'll take everyone else's word for it. No. The worst thing you can do on here is asking for balance. That's just asking for disappointment. I'd rather play a broken class and make easy money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwaihir.1745 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 A 900 range leap would indeed make reaper more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalal.6783 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 No, i dont want any class to be broken but less life force drain per second would be a very good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Reaper was fucking absurd after HoT. Dealt stupid damage and would not die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Power Reaper has never been overpowered. Condi Reaper was not broken but a bit too strong in PvP due to the old Chill -> DOT mechanic and an easy 100% Chill and Weakness uptime, if not cleansed frequently. Ironically this had the biggest impact on Power Reaper players, because of the Chills their F1 got huge cooldowns (=death sentence) and at the same time their damage was crippled via Might -> Weakness conversion. So while Condi Reaper was too strong, Power Reaper was even too weak. It was worse than today in the Scourge Meta for Power Reapers. **Mercenary Amulet was broken.** Several specs were overpowered when using it. Mercenary Mace Berserker destroyed everything in 1v1. Mercenary Condi Reaper was the best team fighter in the game. Damage, CC, sustain - all in one package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLZedaR.4790 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Scourge just needs a nerf/rework and we can talk about buffing reaper after that stops to dominate teamfighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I have an idea how to make them completely broken. Crazy idea but how about "Reapers now stunbreak on dodge rolls and dodge rolling allows them to still attack while dodge rolling." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aktium.9506 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 what if executioner's scythe could insta finish downed players? what if it was also aoe? what if it also used the ammo system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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