zoopop.5630 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 In terms of 2vs2, Swizz style tournaments , and balance patch ? Has any information been discus lately or recently @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" ? I beleive last time we spoke, some of these things were being worked on still(2 months ago), and wanted to know how things are going currently with them. Any official news that can be shared with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Yes.....they have **several departments working right now on new mount skins**...on other hand if you mean pvp changes...yeah..they're planning to release a balance patch where they knock off 1-2s from from mirage/scourge condi aoe spam...that should make the game more balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizardauz.3761 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 The unpaid intern they have reading "My First Coding Book" is currently hard at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk.5460 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 > @"Arheundel.6451" said: > Yes.....they have **several departments working right now on new mount skins**...on other hand if you mean pvp changes...yeah..they're planning to release a balance patch where they knock off 1-2s from from mirage/scourge condi aoe spam...that should make the game more balanced How many people do yo think work on GW2? Give them a break... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 > @"Turk.5460" said: > > @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > Yes.....they have **several departments working right now on new mount skins**...on other hand if you mean pvp changes...yeah..they're planning to release a balance patch where they knock off 1-2s from from mirage/scourge condi aoe spam...that should make the game more balanced > > How many people do yo think work on GW2? Give them a break... I remember either pre HoT release or a bit after, devs mentioned there were around 200 employees with 120 working on expansion. I think number still holds, considering GW2 is a large game and is propsperous. In addition, lack of devs (which again, does not seem to be he case) is not an excuse. I paid money for the game and for continuing support. I do expect anet to be making a decent profit, but trying to cut quality to increase profits is not acceptable. I would not go as far as saying that anet is doing this, but the quality of content and the quality improvements, like class balance, have been severely under whelming since PoF release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 > @"Turk.5460" said: > How many people do yo think work on GW2? Give them a break... a game with this many players? a lot. many times more than is needed to get pvp right the problem is the management doesn't really give a damn about the players, so all resources are assigned to things that directly make money in the short term. like mount skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk.5460 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 > @"otto.5684" said: >... I paid money for the game and for continuing support. Oh step off it. You paid for the game, the continuing support was not part of the original price. This is a F2P game which you have *by far* gotten your money's worth out of already compared to any other $30 or $60 game...And if you *haven't* gotten your money's worth out of it, then you haven't been playing long enough to have a worthwhile opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 > @"Turk.5460" said: > > @"otto.5684" said: > >... I paid money for the game and for continuing support. > > Oh step off it. You paid for the game, the continuing support was not part of the original price. This is a F2P game which you have *by far* gotten your money's worth out of already compared to any other $30 or $60 game...And if you *haven't* gotten your money's worth out of it, then you haven't been playing long enough to have a worthwhile opinion. The expansions are NOT free. I paid for the expansions. Part of the money is for continuous support of the game and additional content. I did buy gems during HoT with real money, cuz I was satisfied with the product. With PoF I would not give anet an addition cent. Their performance in terms of quality has been seriously lacking. I also bought the most expensive version of PoF based on HoT reputation. I most definitely will not for the next expansion, if I even buy it at all. So if you think that anet has no reason to continue providing content and fix issues, think again. This how MMOs lose players and eventually go out of business. And to be fair, anet does patch the game periodically. The quality with and since PoF has been significantly lower than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 why does everything on the forums become an argument..... like this topic wasn't even attended to be a bash or some silly argument over buying the game. can some of ya'll bring it down a bit? Post like above is how the devs decide not to comment on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk.5460 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 > @"zoopop.5630" said: > why does everything on the forums become an argument..... like this topic wasn't even attended to be a bash or some silly argument over buying the game. > > can some of ya'll bring it down a bit? Post like above is how the devs decide not to comment on anything. Because some people have this weird sense of entitlement and I like to point out that they are playing a game that cost $60 ($120 if you also purchased the original when it was $60) for THOUSANDS OF HOURS. I wonder how many hours they got with the same $60 in something like Call of Duty or Devil May Cry or whatever other new game where the standard price is $60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquen.5406 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 > @"Turk.5460" said: > > @"zoopop.5630" said: > > why does everything on the forums become an argument..... like this topic wasn't even attended to be a bash or some silly argument over buying the game. > > > > can some of ya'll bring it down a bit? Post like above is how the devs decide not to comment on anything. > > Because some people have this weird sense of entitlement and I like to point out that they are playing a game that cost $60 ($120 if you also purchased the original when it was $60) for THOUSANDS OF HOURS. I wonder how many hours they got with the same $60 in something like Call of Duty or Devil May Cry or whatever other new game where the standard price is $60. You are missing the point though and I feel that your example in this case is irrelevant. The person you are replying to wants to invest in the game and mentioned above that they paid for the base game, expansions (even bought the more expensive versions), and gems to support the game. They also indicated they did this because they were happy with the state of the game and wanted to support Anet. But the quality to them has gone downhill and so they no longer wish to support Anet in that manner. This is bad for all of us because they need our support to continue the game and we need their support to keep our interest. In a way it's like a symbiotic relationship. Anet owes us as much as we owe them **_IF_** we want the game to continue and flourish. The reason people get this way is because they care for the overall health of the game and it appears to be going in the wrong direction in some ways. Communication has always been a weak point for them and it hurts everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 > @"Turk.5460" said: > > @"zoopop.5630" said: > > why does everything on the forums become an argument..... like this topic wasn't even attended to be a bash or some silly argument over buying the game. > > > > can some of ya'll bring it down a bit? Post like above is how the devs decide not to comment on anything. > > Because some people have this weird sense of entitlement and I like to point out that they are playing a game that cost $60 ($120 if you also purchased the original when it was $60) for THOUSANDS OF HOURS. I wonder how many hours they got with the same $60 in something like Call of Duty or Devil May Cry or whatever other new game where the standard price is $60. What about you give people **legitimate marketing and not lies?** then maybe those people would not come here to spend THOUSAND HOURS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk.5460 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 > @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > @"Turk.5460" said: > > > @"zoopop.5630" said: > > > why does everything on the forums become an argument..... like this topic wasn't even attended to be a bash or some silly argument over buying the game. > > > > > > can some of ya'll bring it down a bit? Post like above is how the devs decide not to comment on anything. > > > > Because some people have this weird sense of entitlement and I like to point out that they are playing a game that cost $60 ($120 if you also purchased the original when it was $60) for THOUSANDS OF HOURS. I wonder how many hours they got with the same $60 in something like Call of Duty or Devil May Cry or whatever other new game where the standard price is $60. > > What about you give people **legitimate marketing and not lies?** then maybe those people would not come here to spend THOUSAND HOURS What lies? > @"Roquen.5406" said: > > @"Turk.5460" said: > > > @"zoopop.5630" said: > > > why does everything on the forums become an argument..... like this topic wasn't even attended to be a bash or some silly argument over buying the game. > > > > > > can some of ya'll bring it down a bit? Post like above is how the devs decide not to comment on anything. > > > > Because some people have this weird sense of entitlement and I like to point out that they are playing a game that cost $60 ($120 if you also purchased the original when it was $60) for THOUSANDS OF HOURS. I wonder how many hours they got with the same $60 in something like Call of Duty or Devil May Cry or whatever other new game where the standard price is $60. > > You are missing the point though and I feel that your example in this case is irrelevant. The person you are replying to wants to invest in the game and mentioned above that they paid for the base game, expansions (even bought the more expensive versions), and gems to support the game. They also indicated they did this because they were happy with the state of the game and wanted to support Anet. But the quality to them has gone downhill and so they no longer wish to support Anet in that manner. > > This is bad for all of us because they need our support to continue the game and we need their support to keep our interest. In a way it's like a symbiotic relationship. Anet owes us as much as we owe them **_IF_** we want the game to continue and flourish. > > The reason people get this way is because they care for the overall health of the game and it appears to be going in the wrong direction in some ways. Communication has always been a weak point for them and it hurts everyone involved. You seem to be blind to the bigger picture here. There are plenty of people who are very satisfied with the state of the game. I'm one of them - sure I think that there may need some balance tweaks here and there, but I know that there are people who *don't* want the same tweaks that I do, and are happy on their own end of that spectrum. Of course the people who feel unhappy for whatever their personal reasoning is are going to be extremely loud on the forums. That doesn't make them the majority, nor does it make them right. The vast majority of happy players will never even come to the forums, because they have nothing to complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Turk.5460" said: > > @"Arheundel.6451" said: > > > @"Turk.5460" said: > > > > @"zoopop.5630" said: > > > > why does everything on the forums become an argument..... like this topic wasn't even attended to be a bash or some silly argument over buying the game. > > > > > > > > can some of ya'll bring it down a bit? Post like above is how the devs decide not to comment on anything. > > > > > > Because some people have this weird sense of entitlement and I like to point out that they are playing a game that cost $60 ($120 if you also purchased the original when it was $60) for THOUSANDS OF HOURS. I wonder how many hours they got with the same $60 in something like Call of Duty or Devil May Cry or whatever other new game where the standard price is $60. > > > > What about you give people **legitimate marketing and not lies?** then maybe those people would not come here to spend THOUSAND HOURS > > What lies? > > > @"Roquen.5406" said: > > > @"Turk.5460" said: > > > > @"zoopop.5630" said: > > > > why does everything on the forums become an argument..... like this topic wasn't even attended to be a bash or some silly argument over buying the game. > > > > > > > > can some of ya'll bring it down a bit? Post like above is how the devs decide not to comment on anything. > > > > > > Because some people have this weird sense of entitlement and I like to point out that they are playing a game that cost $60 ($120 if you also purchased the original when it was $60) for THOUSANDS OF HOURS. I wonder how many hours they got with the same $60 in something like Call of Duty or Devil May Cry or whatever other new game where the standard price is $60. > > > > You are missing the point though and I feel that your example in this case is irrelevant. The person you are replying to wants to invest in the game and mentioned above that they paid for the base game, expansions (even bought the more expensive versions), and gems to support the game. They also indicated they did this because they were happy with the state of the game and wanted to support Anet. But the quality to them has gone downhill and so they no longer wish to support Anet in that manner. > > > > This is bad for all of us because they need our support to continue the game and we need their support to keep our interest. In a way it's like a symbiotic relationship. Anet owes us as much as we owe them **_IF_** we want the game to continue and flourish. > > > > The reason people get this way is because they care for the overall health of the game and it appears to be going in the wrong direction in some ways. Communication has always been a weak point for them and it hurts everyone involved. > > You seem to be blind to the bigger picture here. There are plenty of people who are very satisfied with the state of the game. I'm one of them - sure I think that there may need some balance tweaks here and there, but I know that there are people who *don't* want the same tweaks that I do, and are happy on their own end of that spectrum. > > Of course the people who feel unhappy for whatever their personal reasoning is are going to be extremely loud on the forums. That doesn't make them the majority, nor does it make them right. The vast majority of happy players will never even come to the forums, because they have nothing to complain about. This is correct... I was happy playing team queue until the forum peeps had it removed and since then its all Ive bitched about ... Ive seen too many friends leave the game because of this change and to be honest I may leave too as my active friends list has gone down from about 30 to 3, theres no point to MMO if you play alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuka Cola.8520 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 They will be releasing all they have when wow vanilla and the expansion comes out. until then, the only thing youll be getting is balance patches every 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Ben Phongluangtham.1065 Posted June 30, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"zoopop.5630" said: > In terms of 2vs2, Swizz style tournaments , and balance patch ? > > Has any information been discus lately or recently @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" ? I beleive last time we spoke, some of these things were being worked on still(2 months ago), and wanted to know how things are going currently with them. Any official news that can be shared with us? We've made some good progress on some of the underpinnings of swiss. I hesitate to give a date, as I expect it's still a ways away. We've been holding off on special tournaments until we get some some additional tournament support to allow for more teams. We plan to push some of these changes live soon. We'll make an announcement when we do, however if it goes right, you shouldn't notice a difference in most circumstances. The mid-season balance patch is coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiki.9310 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > The mid-season balance patch is coming soon. Yay! I'm hoping for Renegade buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukuni.8745 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > > @"zoopop.5630" said: > > In terms of 2vs2, Swizz style tournaments , and balance patch ? > > > > Has any information been discus lately or recently @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" ? I beleive last time we spoke, some of these things were being worked on still(2 months ago), and wanted to know how things are going currently with them. Any official news that can be shared with us? > > We've made some good progress on some of the underpinnings of swiss. I hesitate to give a date, as I expect it's still a ways away. > > We've been holding off on special tournaments until we get some some additional tournament support to allow for more teams. We plan to push some of these changes live soon. We'll make an announcement when we do, however if it goes right, you shouldn't notice a difference in most circumstances. > > The mid-season balance patch is coming soon. Any chance of getting a preview of that mid season balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Hiki.9310" said: > > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > > The mid-season balance patch is coming soon. > > Yay! I'm hoping for Renegade buffs. Lol no buffs could salvage that spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rysdude.3824 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"witcher.3197" said: > > @"Hiki.9310" said: > > > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > > > The mid-season balance patch is coming soon. > > > > Yay! I'm hoping for Renegade buffs. > > Lol no buffs could salvage that spec. Im really hoping it gets some buffs. Such cool profession skills (on sb) that Ive wanted always to try out but havent because of the current profession state. Crossing fingers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxx.5021 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I wouldn't expect more than a few adjustments that could have been done months ago with little effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"zoopop.5630" said: > why does everything on the forums become an argument..... like this topic wasn't even attended to be a bash or some silly argument over buying the game. > > can some of ya'll bring it down a bit? Post like above is how the devs decide not to comment on anything. They are trying to increase their forum rating so they can be a top 10 forum argument winner because the forum is its own game mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theros.1390 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > The mid-season balance patch is coming soon. A little glimpse of the changes you planned ? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilli.2976 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > The mid-season balance patch is coming soon. Looking forward to this Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleazar.9478 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > > The mid-season balance patch is coming soon. I'm happy for a upcoming balance pass (sometimes they're my favorite update since I can try new things when they're good meaty ones) But out of curiosity why are they midseason now is that how long it takes and you guys push it out as fast as you can? Or is there actual design reason you guys push it out mid season now? (I hope ranger mh dagger gets love in pvp one can wish I suppose) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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