shiri.4257 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 SoR or KN are your most optimal choices. They will outnumber all the other servers with active guilds 3:1. So everyone can feel highly skilled. Don't let bandwagoning hold you down. Make yourself the greatest wvw player today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 It's not that Mag's dying, it's that t4 is. Mag's just stranded there with no nightcappers and no hope. Fight the good fight though, VR o7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trajan.4953 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Oh you sweet summer children. Mag has gone down before, and all it will take is for one of the old commanders to raise the flag and then mag will rise again. There is a big difference between the band wagon bads that joined after mag was in T1 and true maguuma players. The last time it happened mag went all the way to T1 and sent BG crying and running to eotm like scared rabbits. If any of you corpse jumpers think you seen the last of Mag you are sorely mistaken. Currently there is house cleaning as all the fairweathers are leaving to greener pastures. Following Mal and his crew in the belief that that will make them good. In time you will see. I cannot speak for the guilds that transferred to fa, but I assumed they were just looking for Action during their play time. Everybody will come back once the flag is raised. I'm not even on mag currently, just waiting for the flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 JQ still full? They just lost a lot of players/guilds to SoR. RIP JQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 > @"Trajan.4953" said: > Oh you sweet summer children. > > >. > > I'm not even on mag currently, just waiting for the flag Wait Wut? All of that calling out those who left, yet you have left also? But you aren't bandwagoning either I guess. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir BIGCAT.6391 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 yaks bend just lost a couple of guilds over the few days n we are still considered 'full' i wonder what thats means, and we are in t4. at least me and my fellow guildies still having a good time no matter the matchup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralith Arkane.8371 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 It's not just Mag that's suffering from this. Anet needs to open Yak's Bend, too. We are not close to being full. We don't queue more than one map at a time during NA primetime and are dead during off hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal.1543 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 From a guy who automates things for a living, I would suggest doing audits of server pops MUCH more often. Mag has been dead for weeks, YB has been shedding people for weeks and they are high pop and full respectively. This system was supposed to stop the bandwagoning, but it just encourages it more. Alliances CANNOT come soon enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyShroud.2865 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 > @"Immortal.1543" said: > From a guy who automates things for a living, I would suggest doing audits of server pops MUCH more often. Mag has been dead for weeks, YB has been shedding people for weeks and they are high pop and full respectively. This system was supposed to stop the bandwagoning, but it just encourages it more. Alliances CANNOT come soon enough! What if they bandwagon between alliances... :dizzy: The linking does not stop bandwagon, it is just a first aid against populations decline. Dev also said that it doesn't account for coverage population, just using overall populations. People will always bandwagon simply because it make them feel good, to beat servers that lack comparable amount of dedicated wvwers. That feel good will then come to a stop when they meet old "Very High" or "Full" servers. Then we will see if they will start tanking or what inorder to tank back to lower tier to beat servers to make them feel good again. Bandwagon is just a reflection of certain human natures of seeking good feeling and not good match. Lets be real here, there isn't any wvw guilds that willing to spend 6 months to train newbies to become good anymore. Bandwagon is the easiest way to get above average players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiri.4257 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Player hours are taken over weeks not a solicited bandwagon power hour. So you gotto suck it up for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWI.4127 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 > @"phokus.8934" said: > RIP JQ. Yeah, not falling for that one again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne.6140 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 > @"SWI.4127" said: > > @"phokus.8934" said: > > RIP JQ. > > Yeah, not falling for that one again Yea man, it's almost as though one server is able to empty out into another server and still classify as two servers. Whatever are these people talking about? Don't make much sense yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrolan.9608 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 > @"phokus.8934" said: > JQ still full? > > They just lost a lot of players/guilds to SoR. > > RIP JQ. Pop status is updated once per week unless anet sees an abnormal movement, so JQ status won't be updated until next Monday. Same applies to YB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnia Wind.2108 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 YB is hurting. We aren't nearly full anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiri.4257 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Anet only accepts BG tears. Quit your crying JQ & YB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"shiri.4257" said: > Anet only accepts BG tears. Quit your crying JQ & YB. *looks around*. Think both of those servers have been open at least twice since BG opened last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 So uh.. how many guilds moved from JQ SoS YB to stack on HoD/SoR/DR? SF Calm Rx TKx Gal? Is this the second alliance taking shape? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolute.6239 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 SF CALM FLUX eXa MUSA RED TKx and other guilds, yes It’s around 470 players when they tallied it last week Off to T1 they goo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkamania.7561 Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 there's 5 big servers(BG,SoR,Kaineng,FA and SoS) and the rest are super small. emergency relinking needed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Boy.. by the time alliances arrive, we're just going to have 2 huge alliances battling it out... and people want the alliance cap higher.. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrolan.9608 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"Evolute.6239" said: > SF CALM FLUX eXa MUSA RED TKx and other guilds, yes > > It’s around 470 players when they tallied it last week > > Off to T1 they goo I doubt its 470 active players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkamania.7561 Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"morrolan.9608" said: > > @"Evolute.6239" said: > > SF CALM FLUX eXa MUSA RED TKx and other guilds, yes > > > > It’s around 470 players when they tallied it last week > > > > Off to T1 they goo > > I doubt its 470 active players Ya, it's up there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimator.3589 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"XenesisII.1540" said: > Boy.. by the time alliances arrive, we're just going to have 2 huge alliances battling it out... and people want the alliance cap higher.. lol. I'm not sure having a couple mega-alliances is actually all that bad a thing. WvW just doesn't have enough NA players to keep 4 tiers really active anymore. We've been due for server consolidations for some some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etheri.5406 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > > @"Immortal.1543" said: > > From a guy who automates things for a living, I would suggest doing audits of server pops MUCH more often. Mag has been dead for weeks, YB has been shedding people for weeks and they are high pop and full respectively. This system was supposed to stop the bandwagoning, but it just encourages it more. Alliances CANNOT come soon enough! > > What if they bandwagon between alliances... :dizzy: > > The linking does not stop bandwagon, it is just a first aid against populations decline. Dev also said that it doesn't account for coverage population, just using overall populations. > > People will always bandwagon simply because it make them feel good, to beat servers that lack comparable amount of dedicated wvwers. That feel good will then come to a stop when they meet old "Very High" or "Full" servers. Then we will see if they will start tanking or what inorder to tank back to lower tier to beat servers to make them feel good again. Bandwagon is just a reflection of certain human natures of seeking good feeling and not good match. Imagine you're a guild that enjoys playing organised / coordinated. How do you enjoy WvW outside of pug hours? You can go to any server you like but if it's not "stacked" you'll find pugs yet none of them will play coordinated with you. You can either do 10 man raids with 40 pugs not listening, or you can move to a server with other players with a similar mindset. So people move to other players with a similar mindset. You can tell me to train them but, they won't come voice, they won't reroll, they won't run any builds and they won't push with us. How do you teach pugs anything if they plain refuse to listen yet insist on following you every raid? Who's really looking for free bags? > > Lets be real here, there isn't any wvw guilds that willing to spend 6 months to train newbies to become good anymore. Bandwagon is the easiest way to get above average players. I remember sitting on a newbie server for 6 months with a pretty large core of good players and dedicated commanders. It was a wonderful experience full of newbies telling us how amazing their scepter eles and longbow rangers are. 6 months later? The majority of pugs was still playing exactly the same, mostly because as soon as you try to tell them to do something the answer is "No, I can do whatever I want" and recommending other players to do the exact same. I'm sure you can think of a few servers where the vast majority of players won't listen, won't join you and won't improve a lot even if you go there and raid daily with your 15 man group. And every time your 15 man group isn't raiding? They have absolutely nothing to do; which isn't sustainable or fun for most guilds either. You can't improve players who refuse to do a single thing you ask of them. They believe they know better, or at least are entitled to do whatever they please. Stacking is the result of most servers being unfun to play on, play with or lead on for more hardcore / veteran WvW players. But you can keep blaming the guilds for doing it; even tho both on EU and NA there are several servers which pretty much every veteran guild avoids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyShroud.2865 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 That's nothing more than a justification you give yourselves. You still just steam rolling other servers that have more pugs. Which is more fun - steam rolling or equal fight? Also, I remember tagging up for 6 months straight 8 hrs per day and once ranger majority squad become meta squad. I guess your so-called dedicated commanders an't that dedicated. If you want to steam roll people, just say so, we are all very open about it and accept your decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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