OniGiri.9461 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I can't believe this actually happened. WOW. Props to Anet for not messing around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Now that is a clear message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzet.3614 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 man that sucks , i'd rather people learn from their mistakes and such , we all deserve second chances, but it is understood the situation was pretty ballistic and generated an over abundance of : https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vial_of_Salt . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalButt.5708 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Rezzet.3614" said: > man that sucks , i'd rather people learn from their mistakes and such , we all deserve second chances, but it is understood the situation was pretty ballistic and generated an over abundance of : https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vial_of_Salt . She's been viciously attacking people for YEARS, this wasn't just a single mistake You reap what you sow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurid.1753 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Rezzet.3614" said: > man that sucks , i'd rather people learn from their mistakes and such , we all deserve second chances, but it is understood the situation was pretty ballistic and generated an over abundance of : https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vial_of_Salt . Unfortunately losing a job is the new standard for whenever someone speaks out against the norm online. If it works against one side of the political divide, it should also work against the other for fairness. It's sad for them, sure, but deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IV Dystopia.9376 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. I would never want to rejoice in the removal of an employee, but ANET and MO you have won a customer for life. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTBeuford.2071 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Thank you so much. I'm glad this kind of toxicity and unprofessionalism won't be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitske.4912 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Cyrin.1035" said: > *Please keep the discussion focused to constructively discuss this topic. Focus on evidence and suggestions, not hate or assumptions. Ultimately we just want our game and community to be strong. > > For those of you just coming into the discussion: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/ > https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/8w3q4n/must_be_a_thrill_to_work_with_this_dev/ > > --- > > Both devs should know better than to respond in such a way despite where they post their responses. It's social media, 2018, and the last negative Anet needs to add to the list is a "Roseanne Twitter" moment. > > Being a "professional" writer and working for a large company like Anet requires professionalism any time you are communicating with your game's fanbase in a public/open setting. It doesn't matter if it's in or out of the office. If you can be quoted with proof, you do not respond in a way that is damaging to your company and team unless you don't care for repercussion. > > It's unfortunate because I think JP may be one of the most insightful members and additions on the writing team when she is actually writing for the game, and not on her personal twitter. She understands how this game functions and she brings a lot of detail and perception to the writing team that is vital for this game's story that has been steadily declining. She cares for the necessary progression of the characters and plot which is something we desperately need for our GW 2 story right now. She's been incredibly informative and helpful in responding on the Dev Chat threads. > > I hope she isn't terminated, but I also hope she personally gives an apology to the playerbase and those two GW 2 streamers who are a big part of our community. If she does and it's a decent apology, this can possibly be salvaged. Give her a chance to redeem herself just as you have with that blockhead Braham. One chance. Nothing more. > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > Mo I must say I did not see this coming. I am very happy for one thing, you have proven me wrong because I was very skeptical. On the other hand, I dont think we should rejoice for people losing their jobs and livelihoods even though some mightve been justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyche.4072 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Good. But can't help but wonder if she's going to think she's a victim in all of this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adotiln Urthadar.1823 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 This was a very cowardly action. You have lost an incredible amount of respect in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithranArkanere.8957 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > Mo Thank you for addressing our concerts so swiftly. I'm sad it had come to this, I prefer when people change and improve rather than being punished, and I really love stories in which people come to understand each other and grow as individuals. Everyone is better when we all help each other be better, and I believe that is part of the Spirit of Guild Wars. Sadly, not everyone comes to understand that, and there's times when there's no good solutions to a conflict. I can only hope they can learn from this experience instead growing bitter from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasa Devi.7958 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 The kindest thing I can say is "I'm glad she's no longer around to keep doing harm." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTBeuford.2071 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"smitske.4912" said: > I must say I did not see this coming. > I am very happy for one thing, you have proven me wrong because I was very skeptical. > On the other hand, I dont think we should rejoice for people losing their jobs and livelihoods even though some mightve been justified. Yes we should. People who don't do their jobs correctly should be fired because they make the livelihoods of others worse, in this case most specifically the other employees of ANET. This is a very good thing, and I have no remorse for the devs who got fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulwblood.1529 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Well. Even more disappointment then. Although I did not agree how the "sexism" call was pulled, I still believe terminating two employees to please the fans isn't the best option. But hey, we'll lI've. I just hope the content doesn't suffer with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustChris.8139 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > Mo I'm glad to see that such behavior is not tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deihnyx.6318 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I can't help but feel sorry for this whole situation. It must have been a really difficult decision to make. Mike, Thank you for everything you're doing for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalButt.5708 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Manasa Devi.7958" said: > The kindest thing I can say is "I'm glad she's no longer around to keep doing harm." Ice Cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewan.5681 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Now that she's canned the only thing I can think of to say is a quote from Jessica herself when from when she was talking about TB's passing "The kindest thing I can say is "I'm glad she's no longer around to keep doing harm." :^) good on you arena net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 It's never nice to see someone lose their job no matter who it is, However they should of known better and not react the way they did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizlam.4310 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > Mo Thank you, I'm not sure if Peter was fired too, but if he was that must've been hard and honestly I think that, in his case, he could've gotten only a strike. Either way I incredibly respect you guys for making the right decision and putting us, the customers, at the top of the priority, let's hope people won't forget this because if Peter was actually fired that means they just fired someone with more than 10 years of experience in the Guild Wars franchise and that says a lot about how much they care about us. As for JP I have nothing to say aside from the obvious good riddance, not only from her latest tweets but from the ones that came before that have been appearing. Thank you MO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus.1549 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 MAD RESPECT ANET!!! And thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascax.2163 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Mike O Brien.4613" said: > Recently two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players. Their attacks on the community were unacceptable. As a result, they’re no longer with the company. > > I want to be clear that the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all. As a company we always strive to have a collaborative relationship with the Guild Wars community. We value your input. We make this game for you. > > Mo It must be hard to take such decisions, but I must applaud your attitude toward our Community. I sincerely appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batel.9206 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 > @"Morg.5986" said: > I guess you could say that the price was wrong and they both just got fried. Ouch! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkilian.1854 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I understand JPrice getting fired. She was just disrespectful. But Peter Fries? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesacon.8735 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I'm glad I wasn't in the Anet office today. My guess is very little real work got done and everyone was miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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