Vieux P.1238 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > > @"Mbelch.9028" said: > > You blocked and reported somebody for PMing you once? Nothing will come of that report. > > Part of your problem really could be your gameplay, based off the fact that you ignore chat in PvP matches. Coordinating gameplay is really useful, and reading and responding to messages in-game can be distracting, but critical should you want to react to situations, or a teammate's call for help, for example. > > If I were you, I'd just give you this advice: Kill em with kindness. Reporting people after they criticize you isn't going to get you far in a community that reeeallllly only cares if you can help the team to a victory. > > Actually thats technically verbal abuse, whether it happened once or not is moot. Still falls under verbal abuse. So is - _Help! i'm being verbally attack on chat & i don't know how handle it.... Need...tech..nical..support...to..help..bloc..chat.._.... Is kinda of an abuse as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"Rasta.2371" said: > I like anet's stance on chat. If you are truly abusive and I mean death threats and garbage on that level they will step in, otherwise it's just too subjective. Thicken your skin. Haha yeah exactly. What I don't get is when you don't say a word to someone but they whisper you and then block you. That's a head scratcher but I guess they know they're in the wrong and just want to vent... maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > you must be nearly 30 or older... wrong or right? > > > > > > If your not 30 or older your a baaby and baabys shouldnt speak there nonsense opinions...../joke > > > > its not that.. > > > > players ive met that say things like get thicker skin tend to be of the older generations while the younger ones want to be rewarded for doing normal everyday activities > > Hahaha, yep, you've got it right > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > Part of the problem is that this can not be compared to what might happen out in the street. People subjected to abuse in the real world might just grin and bear it but GW2 is not real life it is a GAME.People play a game to have fun and if they are not having fun they stop playing. > > > > When the environment gets toxic people no longer have fun and just stop playing and it in the GAME players best interest that as many play the mode that is possible. > > > > > > I think part of the problem is that you think you should grin and bear it. Why do you think that? > > If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life? > > I don't understand why someone else's words are affecting your life. > > You guys all sound like LoL players who are used to people getting banned for calling you bad. But is it not also toxic to be terrible at the game? Because to me it's way more toxic having your guardian go to home with the thief at the start of the game, than it is to have someone call you trash - one of those things directly affects my enjoyment of the game, and the other gets an instablock and I continue to enjoy my life without that person. > > This reminds me of that video of Tyler where he's freaking out because they ban people for "being toxic" but not for running it down mid to throw the game. It's a pathetic double standard where you don't want to be accountable for your kitten play that is affecting everyone else's enjoyment of the game but you don't want them to ruin your own enjoyment by calling you trash for playing bad. It is a GAME. So what if YOU are good at it and someone else is not. It a GAME. As to those double standards , your complaining about how terrible another player is compared to you is different then them complaining about how TOXIC another player is how exactly? If you claim people should just grow a thick skin and move on, why are you objecting to the OPs post? Translate to real life. You are playing a game of pickup hockey with people from the neighborhood against another team. One player on your team is not all that good. Do you start yelling out he a piece of SH** and should just leave already? How do you think others watching would react? ANET does not have rules against there being bad players. They do have rules against there being Toxic players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egorum.9506 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > you must be nearly 30 or older... wrong or right? > > > > > > > > If your not 30 or older your a baaby and baabys shouldnt speak there nonsense opinions...../joke > > > > > > its not that.. > > > > > > players ive met that say things like get thicker skin tend to be of the older generations while the younger ones want to be rewarded for doing normal everyday activities > > > > Hahaha, yep, you've got it right > > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > Part of the problem is that this can not be compared to what might happen out in the street. People subjected to abuse in the real world might just grin and bear it but GW2 is not real life it is a GAME.People play a game to have fun and if they are not having fun they stop playing. > > > > > > When the environment gets toxic people no longer have fun and just stop playing and it in the GAME players best interest that as many play the mode that is possible. > > > > > > > > > > I think part of the problem is that you think you should grin and bear it. Why do you think that? > > > > If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life? > > > > I don't understand why someone else's words are affecting your life. > > > > You guys all sound like LoL players who are used to people getting banned for calling you bad. But is it not also toxic to be terrible at the game? Because to me it's way more toxic having your guardian go to home with the thief at the start of the game, than it is to have someone call you trash - one of those things directly affects my enjoyment of the game, and the other gets an instablock and I continue to enjoy my life without that person. > > > > This reminds me of that video of Tyler where he's freaking out because they ban people for "being toxic" but not for running it down mid to throw the game. It's a pathetic double standard where you don't want to be accountable for your kitten play that is affecting everyone else's enjoyment of the game but you don't want them to ruin your own enjoyment by calling you trash for playing bad. > > It is a GAME. So what if YOU are good at it and someone else is not. It a GAME. As to those double standards , your complaining about how terrible another player is compared to you is different then them complaining about how TOXIC another player is how exactly? If you claim people should just grow a thick skin and move on, why are you objecting to the OPs post? > > Translate to real life. You are playing a game of pickup hockey with people from the neighborhood against another team. One player on your team is not all that good. Do you start yelling out he a piece of SH** and should just leave already? How do you think others watching would react? > > ANET does not have rules against there being bad players. They do have rules against there being Toxic players. Throwing games because you want to be the special staff tempest or renegade is toxic to the other 9 people you affect. Stop playing shit builds and learn the game mode if you want to play ranked, if you want to be special play unranked. If you insist on ruining 9 other people's day don't complain when they call you trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"Egorum.9506" said: > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > you must be nearly 30 or older... wrong or right? > > > > > > > > > > If your not 30 or older your a baaby and baabys shouldnt speak there nonsense opinions...../joke > > > > > > > > its not that.. > > > > > > > > players ive met that say things like get thicker skin tend to be of the older generations while the younger ones want to be rewarded for doing normal everyday activities > > > > > > Hahaha, yep, you've got it right > > > > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > Part of the problem is that this can not be compared to what might happen out in the street. People subjected to abuse in the real world might just grin and bear it but GW2 is not real life it is a GAME.People play a game to have fun and if they are not having fun they stop playing. > > > > > > > > When the environment gets toxic people no longer have fun and just stop playing and it in the GAME players best interest that as many play the mode that is possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think part of the problem is that you think you should grin and bear it. Why do you think that? > > > > > > If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life? > > > > > > I don't understand why someone else's words are affecting your life. > > > > > > You guys all sound like LoL players who are used to people getting banned for calling you bad. But is it not also toxic to be terrible at the game? Because to me it's way more toxic having your guardian go to home with the thief at the start of the game, than it is to have someone call you trash - one of those things directly affects my enjoyment of the game, and the other gets an instablock and I continue to enjoy my life without that person. > > > > > > This reminds me of that video of Tyler where he's freaking out because they ban people for "being toxic" but not for running it down mid to throw the game. It's a pathetic double standard where you don't want to be accountable for your kitten play that is affecting everyone else's enjoyment of the game but you don't want them to ruin your own enjoyment by calling you trash for playing bad. > > > > It is a GAME. So what if YOU are good at it and someone else is not. It a GAME. As to those double standards , your complaining about how terrible another player is compared to you is different then them complaining about how TOXIC another player is how exactly? If you claim people should just grow a thick skin and move on, why are you objecting to the OPs post? > > > > Translate to real life. You are playing a game of pickup hockey with people from the neighborhood against another team. One player on your team is not all that good. Do you start yelling out he a piece of SH** and should just leave already? How do you think others watching would react? > > > > ANET does not have rules against there being bad players. They do have rules against there being Toxic players. > > Throwing games because you want to be the special staff tempest or renegade is toxic to the other 9 people you affect. Stop playing kitten builds and learn the game mode if you want to play ranked, if you want to be special play unranked. If you insist on ruining 9 other people's day don't complain when they call you trash. I do not PvP and I have never reported anyone for toxic behaviour. Are you claiming the OP was throwing the game? One more time. Why is it ok for Player A to complain about player B because of that persons skill level, but Player B should not complain if Player A being toxic? THAT is called a Double Standard. If you do not want to be labled as a bad player, learn to play better. If you do not want to be called Toxic, dont be toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curennos.9307 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 You wouldn't happen to be the guardian named Myles Trappinga, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus.3608 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > @"Egorum.9506" said: > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you must be nearly 30 or older... wrong or right? > > > > > > > > > > > > If your not 30 or older your a baaby and baabys shouldnt speak there nonsense opinions...../joke > > > > > > > > > > its not that.. > > > > > > > > > > players ive met that say things like get thicker skin tend to be of the older generations while the younger ones want to be rewarded for doing normal everyday activities > > > > > > > > Hahaha, yep, you've got it right > > > > > > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > Part of the problem is that this can not be compared to what might happen out in the street. People subjected to abuse in the real world might just grin and bear it but GW2 is not real life it is a GAME.People play a game to have fun and if they are not having fun they stop playing. > > > > > > > > > > When the environment gets toxic people no longer have fun and just stop playing and it in the GAME players best interest that as many play the mode that is possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think part of the problem is that you think you should grin and bear it. Why do you think that? > > > > > > > > If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life? > > > > > > > > I don't understand why someone else's words are affecting your life. > > > > > > > > You guys all sound like LoL players who are used to people getting banned for calling you bad. But is it not also toxic to be terrible at the game? Because to me it's way more toxic having your guardian go to home with the thief at the start of the game, than it is to have someone call you trash - one of those things directly affects my enjoyment of the game, and the other gets an instablock and I continue to enjoy my life without that person. > > > > > > > > This reminds me of that video of Tyler where he's freaking out because they ban people for "being toxic" but not for running it down mid to throw the game. It's a pathetic double standard where you don't want to be accountable for your kitten play that is affecting everyone else's enjoyment of the game but you don't want them to ruin your own enjoyment by calling you trash for playing bad. > > > > > > It is a GAME. So what if YOU are good at it and someone else is not. It a GAME. As to those double standards , your complaining about how terrible another player is compared to you is different then them complaining about how TOXIC another player is how exactly? If you claim people should just grow a thick skin and move on, why are you objecting to the OPs post? > > > > > > Translate to real life. You are playing a game of pickup hockey with people from the neighborhood against another team. One player on your team is not all that good. Do you start yelling out he a piece of SH** and should just leave already? How do you think others watching would react? > > > > > > ANET does not have rules against there being bad players. They do have rules against there being Toxic players. > > > > Throwing games because you want to be the special staff tempest or renegade is toxic to the other 9 people you affect. Stop playing kitten builds and learn the game mode if you want to play ranked, if you want to be special play unranked. If you insist on ruining 9 other people's day don't complain when they call you trash. > > I do not PvP and I have never reported anyone for toxic behaviour. Are you claiming the OP was throwing the game? > > One more time. Why is it ok for Player A to complain about player B because of that persons skill level, but Player B should not complain if Player A being toxic? THAT is called a Double Standard. If you do not want to be labled as a bad player, learn to play better. If you do not want to be called Toxic, dont be toxic. Funny how things aren't going your way logically so you change the argument. That's called deflection. OP said people should get banned for being "toxic". That's stupid, because throwing games is more toxic than typing words in chat and we don't ban people for picking ele, so we pointed that out. Now you're accusing us of asking for bans on people playing bad. That's not what happened. We said people shouldn't be banned for "being toxic" because that's not as bad as people being bad, and we don't ask for people to be banned for being bad. NOT the other way around. You don't get to have it both ways; you either agree that negatively impacting the game should result in bans, or you accept that people aren't perfect and allow some amount of imperfection (which means, typing shouldn't be bannable, as that impacts the game a lot less than "running it down mid", picking rev/ele, whatever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egorum.9506 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > @"Egorum.9506" said: > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you must be nearly 30 or older... wrong or right? > > > > > > > > > > > > If your not 30 or older your a baaby and baabys shouldnt speak there nonsense opinions...../joke > > > > > > > > > > its not that.. > > > > > > > > > > players ive met that say things like get thicker skin tend to be of the older generations while the younger ones want to be rewarded for doing normal everyday activities > > > > > > > > Hahaha, yep, you've got it right > > > > > > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > Part of the problem is that this can not be compared to what might happen out in the street. People subjected to abuse in the real world might just grin and bear it but GW2 is not real life it is a GAME.People play a game to have fun and if they are not having fun they stop playing. > > > > > > > > > > When the environment gets toxic people no longer have fun and just stop playing and it in the GAME players best interest that as many play the mode that is possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think part of the problem is that you think you should grin and bear it. Why do you think that? > > > > > > > > If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life? > > > > > > > > I don't understand why someone else's words are affecting your life. > > > > > > > > You guys all sound like LoL players who are used to people getting banned for calling you bad. But is it not also toxic to be terrible at the game? Because to me it's way more toxic having your guardian go to home with the thief at the start of the game, than it is to have someone call you trash - one of those things directly affects my enjoyment of the game, and the other gets an instablock and I continue to enjoy my life without that person. > > > > > > > > This reminds me of that video of Tyler where he's freaking out because they ban people for "being toxic" but not for running it down mid to throw the game. It's a pathetic double standard where you don't want to be accountable for your kitten play that is affecting everyone else's enjoyment of the game but you don't want them to ruin your own enjoyment by calling you trash for playing bad. > > > > > > It is a GAME. So what if YOU are good at it and someone else is not. It a GAME. As to those double standards , your complaining about how terrible another player is compared to you is different then them complaining about how TOXIC another player is how exactly? If you claim people should just grow a thick skin and move on, why are you objecting to the OPs post? > > > > > > Translate to real life. You are playing a game of pickup hockey with people from the neighborhood against another team. One player on your team is not all that good. Do you start yelling out he a piece of SH** and should just leave already? How do you think others watching would react? > > > > > > ANET does not have rules against there being bad players. They do have rules against there being Toxic players. > > > > Throwing games because you want to be the special staff tempest or renegade is toxic to the other 9 people you affect. Stop playing kitten builds and learn the game mode if you want to play ranked, if you want to be special play unranked. If you insist on ruining 9 other people's day don't complain when they call you trash. > > I do not PvP and I have never reported anyone for toxic behaviour. Are you claiming the OP was throwing the game? > > One more time. Why is it ok for Player A to complain about player B because of that persons skill level, but Player B should not complain if Player A being toxic? THAT is called a Double Standard. If you do not want to be labled as a bad player, learn to play better. If you do not want to be called Toxic, dont be toxic. If you don't pvp then this doesn't concern you? So I'll assume you're a raider then. Imagine that people join your raid causing it to repeatedly fail due to poor building and game play. Now imagine that you can't kick them, you are stuck with them. Repeatedly failing. How long would you continue to raid? Playing your super special and crazy inefficient builds on ranked is in fact throwing the game. If you do half the damage of everyone around you are are unable to sustain even a 1v1, you are the weakest link and will cause your team to fail. They have every right to be posed at you and do everything in their power to get you to leave. Player b wouldn't be toxic if you knew what you were doing and stayed in unranked until you have an understanding of the game mode and play style required. That is what unranked is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"Egorum.9506" said: > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > @"Egorum.9506" said: > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > > > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you must be nearly 30 or older... wrong or right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your not 30 or older your a baaby and baabys shouldnt speak there nonsense opinions...../joke > > > > > > > > > > > > its not that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > players ive met that say things like get thicker skin tend to be of the older generations while the younger ones want to be rewarded for doing normal everyday activities > > > > > > > > > > Hahaha, yep, you've got it right > > > > > > > > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Part of the problem is that this can not be compared to what might happen out in the street. People subjected to abuse in the real world might just grin and bear it but GW2 is not real life it is a GAME.People play a game to have fun and if they are not having fun they stop playing. > > > > > > > > > > > > When the environment gets toxic people no longer have fun and just stop playing and it in the GAME players best interest that as many play the mode that is possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think part of the problem is that you think you should grin and bear it. Why do you think that? > > > > > > > > > > If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life? > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand why someone else's words are affecting your life. > > > > > > > > > > You guys all sound like LoL players who are used to people getting banned for calling you bad. But is it not also toxic to be terrible at the game? Because to me it's way more toxic having your guardian go to home with the thief at the start of the game, than it is to have someone call you trash - one of those things directly affects my enjoyment of the game, and the other gets an instablock and I continue to enjoy my life without that person. > > > > > > > > > > This reminds me of that video of Tyler where he's freaking out because they ban people for "being toxic" but not for running it down mid to throw the game. It's a pathetic double standard where you don't want to be accountable for your kitten play that is affecting everyone else's enjoyment of the game but you don't want them to ruin your own enjoyment by calling you trash for playing bad. > > > > > > > > It is a GAME. So what if YOU are good at it and someone else is not. It a GAME. As to those double standards , your complaining about how terrible another player is compared to you is different then them complaining about how TOXIC another player is how exactly? If you claim people should just grow a thick skin and move on, why are you objecting to the OPs post? > > > > > > > > Translate to real life. You are playing a game of pickup hockey with people from the neighborhood against another team. One player on your team is not all that good. Do you start yelling out he a piece of SH** and should just leave already? How do you think others watching would react? > > > > > > > > ANET does not have rules against there being bad players. They do have rules against there being Toxic players. > > > > > > Throwing games because you want to be the special staff tempest or renegade is toxic to the other 9 people you affect. Stop playing kitten builds and learn the game mode if you want to play ranked, if you want to be special play unranked. If you insist on ruining 9 other people's day don't complain when they call you trash. > > > > I do not PvP and I have never reported anyone for toxic behaviour. Are you claiming the OP was throwing the game? > > > > One more time. Why is it ok for Player A to complain about player B because of that persons skill level, but Player B should not complain if Player A being toxic? THAT is called a Double Standard. If you do not want to be labled as a bad player, learn to play better. If you do not want to be called Toxic, dont be toxic. > > If you don't pvp then this doesn't concern you? > > So I'll assume you're a raider then. Imagine that people join your raid causing it to repeatedly fail due to poor building and game play. Now imagine that you can't kick them, you are stuck with them. Repeatedly failing. How long would you continue to raid? > > Playing your super special and crazy inefficient builds on ranked is in fact throwing the game. If you do half the damage of everyone around you are are unable to sustain even a 1v1, you are the weakest link and will cause your team to fail. They have every right to be posed at you and do everything in their power to get you to leave. > > Player b wouldn't be toxic if you knew what you were doing and stayed in unranked until you have an understanding of the game mode and play style required. That is what unranked is for. Toxic gameplay is not restricted to PvP. See I am not all that concerned about how GOOD another plyaer is. This is a game. You will get people of all types. I have died many times in fights in WvW because a fight we should have won we lost because the players that happened to be with me were not that good. I have never felt the need to ridicule them. Its just a GAME. As to what RIGHTS a player as, you do not get to determine that. ANET decides that on what they feel best for the game. In no shape or form do you have the right to force another player to leave the game. ANET determines what justifies banning from the game and this can be anything from hacking , to inappropriate language. It can be deliberately throwing matches. I have not seen them ever suggest they will ban players because they are not very good. I will suggest to you that if in fact you are using Verbal abuse to get another person to leave ANET has every reason to ban you and that player has every right to report you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 >If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life?> @"Legatus.3608" said: > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > @"Egorum.9506" said: > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > > > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you must be nearly 30 or older... wrong or right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your not 30 or older your a baaby and baabys shouldnt speak there nonsense opinions...../joke > > > > > > > > > > > > its not that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > players ive met that say things like get thicker skin tend to be of the older generations while the younger ones want to be rewarded for doing normal everyday activities > > > > > > > > > > Hahaha, yep, you've got it right > > > > > > > > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Part of the problem is that this can not be compared to what might happen out in the street. People subjected to abuse in the real world might just grin and bear it but GW2 is not real life it is a GAME.People play a game to have fun and if they are not having fun they stop playing. > > > > > > > > > > > > When the environment gets toxic people no longer have fun and just stop playing and it in the GAME players best interest that as many play the mode that is possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think part of the problem is that you think you should grin and bear it. Why do you think that? > > > > > > > > > > If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life? > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand why someone else's words are affecting your life. > > > > > > > > > > You guys all sound like LoL players who are used to people getting banned for calling you bad. But is it not also toxic to be terrible at the game? Because to me it's way more toxic having your guardian go to home with the thief at the start of the game, than it is to have someone call you trash - one of those things directly affects my enjoyment of the game, and the other gets an instablock and I continue to enjoy my life without that person. > > > > > > > > > > This reminds me of that video of Tyler where he's freaking out because they ban people for "being toxic" but not for running it down mid to throw the game. It's a pathetic double standard where you don't want to be accountable for your kitten play that is affecting everyone else's enjoyment of the game but you don't want them to ruin your own enjoyment by calling you trash for playing bad. > > > > > > > > It is a GAME. So what if YOU are good at it and someone else is not. It a GAME. As to those double standards , your complaining about how terrible another player is compared to you is different then them complaining about how TOXIC another player is how exactly? If you claim people should just grow a thick skin and move on, why are you objecting to the OPs post? > > > > > > > > Translate to real life. You are playing a game of pickup hockey with people from the neighborhood against another team. One player on your team is not all that good. Do you start yelling out he a piece of SH** and should just leave already? How do you think others watching would react? > > > > > > > > ANET does not have rules against there being bad players. They do have rules against there being Toxic players. > > > > > > Throwing games because you want to be the special staff tempest or renegade is toxic to the other 9 people you affect. Stop playing kitten builds and learn the game mode if you want to play ranked, if you want to be special play unranked. If you insist on ruining 9 other people's day don't complain when they call you trash. > > > > I do not PvP and I have never reported anyone for toxic behaviour. Are you claiming the OP was throwing the game? > > > > One more time. Why is it ok for Player A to complain about player B because of that persons skill level, but Player B should not complain if Player A being toxic? THAT is called a Double Standard. If you do not want to be labled as a bad player, learn to play better. If you do not want to be called Toxic, dont be toxic. > > Funny how things aren't going your way logically so you change the argument. That's called deflection. > > OP said people should get banned for being "toxic". That's stupid, because throwing games is more toxic than typing words in chat and we don't ban people for picking ele, so we pointed that out. Now you're accusing us of asking for bans on people playing bad. That's not what happened. We said people shouldn't be banned for "being toxic" because that's not as bad as people being bad, and we don't ask for people to be banned for being bad. NOT the other way around. > > You don't get to have it both ways; you either agree that negatively impacting the game should result in bans, or you accept that people aren't perfect and allow some amount of imperfection (which means, typing shouldn't be bannable, as that impacts the game a lot less than "running it down mid", picking rev/ele, whatever). Excuse me but you stated. >If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life? If this the case then whyshould it bother another person that they are called toxi if they are verbally abusing another player. ? You seem to think that it is you that gets to set the boundaries of the game and what is deemed acceptable behaviour. It is not you it is ANET. In the real world it the same. If I went to work tomorrow and started calling a co-worker names I could expect to lose my job. Management would not say to my co-worker "why should his opinion matter to you"? They would feel I was creating a toxic workplace and have every right to fire me. If I had concerns that the co-worker was not pulling his weight, then I bring that up with management. I work in IT. There are co-workers I have worked with over the years that were not very competent. There are Customers that manage their own IT systems that I did not think were very competent. I have never felt the need to Insult them or call them names and had I done so always understood my Boss would have had every right to fire me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 This is right out of RULES of Conduct something all players agree to when they Click "I accept" when installing this game. https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/ >While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated. It pretty clear what they are saying here . No where in that Rules of Conduct does it suggest that players "must be Good" or that players "Must play acceptable builds". Now again, I have never felt the need to report another player even though I have received such messages. That does not suggest that other players do not have that right should they feel they have been subject to such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 PvP verbal abuse & ~~ignorance~~ ignoring it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus.3608 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"babazhook.6805" said: > This is right out of RULES of Conduct something all players agree to when they Click "I accept" when installing this game. > > https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/ > > >While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated. > > It pretty clear what they are saying here . > > No where in that Rules of Conduct does it suggest that players "must be Good" or that players "Must play acceptable builds". > > Now again, I have never felt the need to report another player even though I have received such messages. That does not suggest that other players do not have that right should they feel they have been subject to such. But playing with eles on my team "causes distress" to me and other players Playing with a guardian on my team who goes to my home node with me at start (I am the thief) "causes distress" to me and other players Playing with revs on my team "causes distress" to me and other players Hell, playing against duo queue teams "causes distress" to me more than any of the above things, and that was sanctioned by anet as well as half the community. Why haven't all those people been banned? Why didn't anet ban themselves? You might read that and laugh, but that's what this sounds like to me - someone call me a ninny and my feelings are hurt so I want him banned. Causing distress is bannable according to the absurdly vague anet rules that really can apply to pretty much everyone playing the game doing literally anything. I could argue farming materials causes me distress because it devalues the ones I collected this morning. You know what happened this morning when someone called me a fucking noob for running over to +1 on a 2v1 node? I called him a dick and went back to mid - but now I won't +1 a 2v1 as a thief anymore, because I realized that was stupid. And then we won the game and everyone was better for it. Maybe instead of hiding in our "safe spaces" and grabbing our blankies every time someone doesn't like something we did, we can all grow the fuck up and learn to deal with "toxicity". You people really haven't learned how to think things through properly. One of two things can happen. Scenario 1: "toxic" players start getting banned - 1. well that's 80% of the people who play the game, so nobody is going to be left playing. This will actually lead to even MORE toxicity in the end, as the matchmaker struggles to correct massive imbalances caused by low population due to the high number of banned players, the match quality nosedives, and nobody enjoys the games any more 2. In addition, everyone will be trash at pvp now, because none of the whiney children can get out of their safe space with their blankies long enough to learn how to pvp because they can't handle someone calling them a noob for +1 a 2v1 on the side node. 3. Then, several years from now, long after the authorities have caved to your whining about someone calling you a noob, and since "toxicity" is absurdly vague to the point that you can't possibly define it, you get YOURSELF banned because someone else is offended by the phrase "fresh air ele is trash" because they happened to be playing fresh air ele and you didn't see that. Because by that time pretty much everything is offense to someone, and ele sucks balls in pvp so why the hell should anyone have to even see the words on their chat box. Everyone will be offended by everything, everyone is in a contest to be THE LEAST TOXIC PLAYER WOW 4. everyone playing the game will be a whiney child who needs adult supervision at all times because we can't have anyone ever getting offended! ZOMG. Now anet is so overburdened by the number of referees they had to hire that the game content never gets released anymore and we have no content. Not even a new fractal, for years at a time. Or, the adult grown up version: "toxic" players don't get banned: 1. people are still playing gw2 several years from now, because people aren't being banned for insanely retarded shit 2. people actually learn how to play pvp because not only are their teammates going to call them trash for playing bad, but they also get immediate feedback when they do something stupid and learn how to correct it right away 3. several years from now, you are still allowed to type things in chat because people aren't banned for saying "hammer rev is bad" in public chat 4. you learn how to deal with criticism, how to determine valid vs invalid criticism, in addition to minor degrees of critical thinking skills, as well you learn how to not be a whiney child who is incapable of handling minor arguments without a mature adult holding your hand. Anet doesn't have to devote resources to babysitting children anymore, and now they're releasing regular content. CONTENT RELEASES! Amazing. Which one of these two options actually sounds more appealing to you? Reaaaaaaaaaaaaally think long and hard about the final application of your idea of "banning toxic players" and where that will lead many years down the road. Reaaaaaaally think about it. Like, critical thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > This is right out of RULES of Conduct something all players agree to when they Click "I accept" when installing this game. > > > > https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/ > > > > >While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated. > > > > It pretty clear what they are saying here . > > > > No where in that Rules of Conduct does it suggest that players "must be Good" or that players "Must play acceptable builds". > > > > Now again, I have never felt the need to report another player even though I have received such messages. That does not suggest that other players do not have that right should they feel they have been subject to such. > > But playing with eles on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > Playing with a guardian on my team who goes to my home node with me at start (I am the thief) "causes distress" to me and other players > Playing with revs on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > > Hell, playing against duo queue teams "causes distress" to me more than any of the above things, and that was sanctioned by anet as well as half the community. Why haven't all those people been banned? Why didn't anet ban themselves? > > You might read that and laugh, but that's what you sound like to me - someone call me a ninny and my feelings are hurt so I want him banned. > > You know what happened this morning when someone called me a kitten noob for running over to +1 on a 2v1 node? I called him a kitten and went back to mid - but now I won't +1 a 2v1 as a thief anymore, because I realized that was stupid. Maybe instead of hiding in our "safe spaces" and grabbing our blankies every time someone doesn't like something we did, we can all grow the kitten up and learn to deal with "toxicity". You people really haven't learned how to think things through properly. > > One of two things can happen. Scenario 1: "toxic" players start getting banned - > 1. well that's 80% of the people who play the game, so nobody is going to be left playing. This will actually lead to even MORE toxicity in the end, as the matchmaker struggles to correct massive imbalances caused by low population due to the high number of banned players > 2. In addition, everyone will be trash at pvp now, because none of the whiney children can get out of their safe space with their blankies long enough to learn how to pvp because they can't handle someone calling them a noob for +1 a 2v1 on the side node. > 3. Then, several years from now, long after the authorities have caved to your whining about someone calling you a noob, and since "toxicity" is absurdly vague to the point that you can't possibly define it, you get YOURSELF banned because someone else is offended by the phrase "fresh air ele is trash" because they happened to be playing fresh air ele and you didn't see that. Because by that time pretty much everything is offense to someone, and ele sucks balls in pvp so why the hell should anyone have to even see the words on their chat box. Everyone will be offended by everything, everyone is in a contest to be THE LEAST TOXIC PLAYER WOW > 4. everyone playing the game will be a whiney child who needs adult supervision at all times because we can't have anyone ever getting offended! ZOMG. Now anet is so overburdened by the number of referees they had to hire that the game content never gets released anymore and we have no content. Not even a new fractal, for years at a time. > > Or, the adult grown up version: "toxic" players don't get banned: > 1. people are still playing gw2 several years from now, because people aren't being banned for insanely kitten kitten > 2. people actually learn how to play pvp because not only are their teammates going to call them trash for playing bad, but they also get immediate feedback when they do something stupid and learn how to correct it right away > 3. several years from now, you are still allowed to type things in chat because people aren't banned for saying "hammer rev is bad" in public chat > 4. you learn how to deal with criticism, how to determine valid vs invalid criticism, in addition to minor degrees of critical thinking skills, as well you learn how to not be a whiney child who is incapable of handling minor arguments without a mature adult holding your hand > > Which one of these two options actually sounds more appealing to you? Reaaaaaaaaaaaaally think long and hard about the final application of your idea of "banning toxic players" and where that will lead many years down the road. Reaaaaaaally think about it. Like, critical thinking. Oh please. You do not make thet call as to what distress is. ANET does. They put those rules in place for a reason . If you are not willing to abide by th terms of service, it on you. If people feel they have been subjected to a breach of service they can make a report. If you feel a person being a bad player is a breach of service then make a report. If you feel there nothing wrong with your behaviour when you verbally abuse another then you should have nothing to fear if that person reports you. In other words it a non event. A player above CLAIMED he had the right to verbally abuse another to get them to leave. No such right exists. As to childlike behaviour, I do not consider name calling as anything BUT child like. 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Legatus.3608 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > This is right out of RULES of Conduct something all players agree to when they Click "I accept" when installing this game. > > > > > > https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/ > > > > > > >While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated. > > > > > > It pretty clear what they are saying here . > > > > > > No where in that Rules of Conduct does it suggest that players "must be Good" or that players "Must play acceptable builds". > > > > > > Now again, I have never felt the need to report another player even though I have received such messages. That does not suggest that other players do not have that right should they feel they have been subject to such. > > > > But playing with eles on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > > Playing with a guardian on my team who goes to my home node with me at start (I am the thief) "causes distress" to me and other players > > Playing with revs on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > > > > Hell, playing against duo queue teams "causes distress" to me more than any of the above things, and that was sanctioned by anet as well as half the community. Why haven't all those people been banned? Why didn't anet ban themselves? > > > > You might read that and laugh, but that's what you sound like to me - someone call me a ninny and my feelings are hurt so I want him banned. > > > > You know what happened this morning when someone called me a kitten noob for running over to +1 on a 2v1 node? I called him a kitten and went back to mid - but now I won't +1 a 2v1 as a thief anymore, because I realized that was stupid. Maybe instead of hiding in our "safe spaces" and grabbing our blankies every time someone doesn't like something we did, we can all grow the kitten up and learn to deal with "toxicity". You people really haven't learned how to think things through properly. > > > > One of two things can happen. Scenario 1: "toxic" players start getting banned - > > 1. well that's 80% of the people who play the game, so nobody is going to be left playing. This will actually lead to even MORE toxicity in the end, as the matchmaker struggles to correct massive imbalances caused by low population due to the high number of banned players > > 2. In addition, everyone will be trash at pvp now, because none of the whiney children can get out of their safe space with their blankies long enough to learn how to pvp because they can't handle someone calling them a noob for +1 a 2v1 on the side node. > > 3. Then, several years from now, long after the authorities have caved to your whining about someone calling you a noob, and since "toxicity" is absurdly vague to the point that you can't possibly define it, you get YOURSELF banned because someone else is offended by the phrase "fresh air ele is trash" because they happened to be playing fresh air ele and you didn't see that. Because by that time pretty much everything is offense to someone, and ele sucks balls in pvp so why the hell should anyone have to even see the words on their chat box. Everyone will be offended by everything, everyone is in a contest to be THE LEAST TOXIC PLAYER WOW > > 4. everyone playing the game will be a whiney child who needs adult supervision at all times because we can't have anyone ever getting offended! ZOMG. Now anet is so overburdened by the number of referees they had to hire that the game content never gets released anymore and we have no content. Not even a new fractal, for years at a time. > > > > Or, the adult grown up version: "toxic" players don't get banned: > > 1. people are still playing gw2 several years from now, because people aren't being banned for insanely kitten kitten > > 2. people actually learn how to play pvp because not only are their teammates going to call them trash for playing bad, but they also get immediate feedback when they do something stupid and learn how to correct it right away > > 3. several years from now, you are still allowed to type things in chat because people aren't banned for saying "hammer rev is bad" in public chat > > 4. you learn how to deal with criticism, how to determine valid vs invalid criticism, in addition to minor degrees of critical thinking skills, as well you learn how to not be a whiney child who is incapable of handling minor arguments without a mature adult holding your hand > > > > Which one of these two options actually sounds more appealing to you? Reaaaaaaaaaaaaally think long and hard about the final application of your idea of "banning toxic players" and where that will lead many years down the road. Reaaaaaaally think about it. Like, critical thinking. > > Oh please. You do not make thet call as to what distress is. ANET does. They put those rules in place for a reason . If you are not willing to abide by th terms of service, it on you. If people feel they have been subjected to a breach of service they can make a report. If you feel a person being a bad player is a breach of service then make a report. > > As to childlike behaviour, I do not consider name calling as anything BUT child like. That's exactly my point guy, I can say this conversation is offensive to me and have you banned by the afternoon because I am offended when people disagree with me. No I can't? Well, if anet says it's distressing, then off you go. Bye bye. No objective reasoning for you, you were causing me distress so now you're out. Plus my guild of extremely unbiased friends all agreed with me that you were a jerk - sounds unbiased and fair to me! Everyone agrees with me that you're a jerk so cya. Oh? That doesn't make sense to you? Well, since there's no possible objective standard to "distressing", and instead it's just whatever the hell some random anet employee wants it to be, you're gone buddy. Plus, you know, there's the whole other 10 points I made that are all valid reasons why this line of thought is extremely bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > This is right out of RULES of Conduct something all players agree to when they Click "I accept" when installing this game. > > > > > > > > https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/ > > > > > > > > >While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated. > > > > > > > > It pretty clear what they are saying here . > > > > > > > > No where in that Rules of Conduct does it suggest that players "must be Good" or that players "Must play acceptable builds". > > > > > > > > Now again, I have never felt the need to report another player even though I have received such messages. That does not suggest that other players do not have that right should they feel they have been subject to such. > > > > > > But playing with eles on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > > > Playing with a guardian on my team who goes to my home node with me at start (I am the thief) "causes distress" to me and other players > > > Playing with revs on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > > > > > > Hell, playing against duo queue teams "causes distress" to me more than any of the above things, and that was sanctioned by anet as well as half the community. Why haven't all those people been banned? Why didn't anet ban themselves? > > > > > > You might read that and laugh, but that's what you sound like to me - someone call me a ninny and my feelings are hurt so I want him banned. > > > > > > You know what happened this morning when someone called me a kitten noob for running over to +1 on a 2v1 node? I called him a kitten and went back to mid - but now I won't +1 a 2v1 as a thief anymore, because I realized that was stupid. Maybe instead of hiding in our "safe spaces" and grabbing our blankies every time someone doesn't like something we did, we can all grow the kitten up and learn to deal with "toxicity". You people really haven't learned how to think things through properly. > > > > > > One of two things can happen. Scenario 1: "toxic" players start getting banned - > > > 1. well that's 80% of the people who play the game, so nobody is going to be left playing. This will actually lead to even MORE toxicity in the end, as the matchmaker struggles to correct massive imbalances caused by low population due to the high number of banned players > > > 2. In addition, everyone will be trash at pvp now, because none of the whiney children can get out of their safe space with their blankies long enough to learn how to pvp because they can't handle someone calling them a noob for +1 a 2v1 on the side node. > > > 3. Then, several years from now, long after the authorities have caved to your whining about someone calling you a noob, and since "toxicity" is absurdly vague to the point that you can't possibly define it, you get YOURSELF banned because someone else is offended by the phrase "fresh air ele is trash" because they happened to be playing fresh air ele and you didn't see that. Because by that time pretty much everything is offense to someone, and ele sucks balls in pvp so why the hell should anyone have to even see the words on their chat box. Everyone will be offended by everything, everyone is in a contest to be THE LEAST TOXIC PLAYER WOW > > > 4. everyone playing the game will be a whiney child who needs adult supervision at all times because we can't have anyone ever getting offended! ZOMG. Now anet is so overburdened by the number of referees they had to hire that the game content never gets released anymore and we have no content. Not even a new fractal, for years at a time. > > > > > > Or, the adult grown up version: "toxic" players don't get banned: > > > 1. people are still playing gw2 several years from now, because people aren't being banned for insanely kitten kitten > > > 2. people actually learn how to play pvp because not only are their teammates going to call them trash for playing bad, but they also get immediate feedback when they do something stupid and learn how to correct it right away > > > 3. several years from now, you are still allowed to type things in chat because people aren't banned for saying "hammer rev is bad" in public chat > > > 4. you learn how to deal with criticism, how to determine valid vs invalid criticism, in addition to minor degrees of critical thinking skills, as well you learn how to not be a whiney child who is incapable of handling minor arguments without a mature adult holding your hand > > > > > > Which one of these two options actually sounds more appealing to you? Reaaaaaaaaaaaaally think long and hard about the final application of your idea of "banning toxic players" and where that will lead many years down the road. Reaaaaaaally think about it. Like, critical thinking. > > > > Oh please. You do not make thet call as to what distress is. ANET does. They put those rules in place for a reason . If you are not willing to abide by th terms of service, it on you. If people feel they have been subjected to a breach of service they can make a report. If you feel a person being a bad player is a breach of service then make a report. > > > > As to childlike behaviour, I do not consider name calling as anything BUT child like. > > That's exactly my point guy, I can say this conversation is offensive to me and have you banned by the afternoon because I am offended when people disagree with me. > > No I can't? Well, if anet says it's distressing, then off you go. Bye bye. No objective reasoning for you, you were causing me distress so now you're out. Plus my guild of extremely unbiased friends all agreed with me that you were a jerk - sounds unbiased and fair to me! Everyone agrees with me that you're a jerk so cya. > > Oh? That doesn't make sense to you? Well, since there's no possible objective standard to "distressing", and instead it's just whatever the hell some random anet employee wants it to be, you're gone buddy. > > Plus, you know, there's the whole other 10 points I made that are all valid reasons why this line of thought is extremely bad. Go ahead and report me then. You have that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus.3608 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > This is right out of RULES of Conduct something all players agree to when they Click "I accept" when installing this game. > > > > > > > > > > https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/ > > > > > > > > > > >While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated. > > > > > > > > > > It pretty clear what they are saying here . > > > > > > > > > > No where in that Rules of Conduct does it suggest that players "must be Good" or that players "Must play acceptable builds". > > > > > > > > > > Now again, I have never felt the need to report another player even though I have received such messages. That does not suggest that other players do not have that right should they feel they have been subject to such. > > > > > > > > But playing with eles on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > > > > Playing with a guardian on my team who goes to my home node with me at start (I am the thief) "causes distress" to me and other players > > > > Playing with revs on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > > > > > > > > Hell, playing against duo queue teams "causes distress" to me more than any of the above things, and that was sanctioned by anet as well as half the community. Why haven't all those people been banned? Why didn't anet ban themselves? > > > > > > > > You might read that and laugh, but that's what you sound like to me - someone call me a ninny and my feelings are hurt so I want him banned. > > > > > > > > You know what happened this morning when someone called me a kitten noob for running over to +1 on a 2v1 node? I called him a kitten and went back to mid - but now I won't +1 a 2v1 as a thief anymore, because I realized that was stupid. Maybe instead of hiding in our "safe spaces" and grabbing our blankies every time someone doesn't like something we did, we can all grow the kitten up and learn to deal with "toxicity". You people really haven't learned how to think things through properly. > > > > > > > > One of two things can happen. Scenario 1: "toxic" players start getting banned - > > > > 1. well that's 80% of the people who play the game, so nobody is going to be left playing. This will actually lead to even MORE toxicity in the end, as the matchmaker struggles to correct massive imbalances caused by low population due to the high number of banned players > > > > 2. In addition, everyone will be trash at pvp now, because none of the whiney children can get out of their safe space with their blankies long enough to learn how to pvp because they can't handle someone calling them a noob for +1 a 2v1 on the side node. > > > > 3. Then, several years from now, long after the authorities have caved to your whining about someone calling you a noob, and since "toxicity" is absurdly vague to the point that you can't possibly define it, you get YOURSELF banned because someone else is offended by the phrase "fresh air ele is trash" because they happened to be playing fresh air ele and you didn't see that. Because by that time pretty much everything is offense to someone, and ele sucks balls in pvp so why the hell should anyone have to even see the words on their chat box. Everyone will be offended by everything, everyone is in a contest to be THE LEAST TOXIC PLAYER WOW > > > > 4. everyone playing the game will be a whiney child who needs adult supervision at all times because we can't have anyone ever getting offended! ZOMG. Now anet is so overburdened by the number of referees they had to hire that the game content never gets released anymore and we have no content. Not even a new fractal, for years at a time. > > > > > > > > Or, the adult grown up version: "toxic" players don't get banned: > > > > 1. people are still playing gw2 several years from now, because people aren't being banned for insanely kitten kitten > > > > 2. people actually learn how to play pvp because not only are their teammates going to call them trash for playing bad, but they also get immediate feedback when they do something stupid and learn how to correct it right away > > > > 3. several years from now, you are still allowed to type things in chat because people aren't banned for saying "hammer rev is bad" in public chat > > > > 4. you learn how to deal with criticism, how to determine valid vs invalid criticism, in addition to minor degrees of critical thinking skills, as well you learn how to not be a whiney child who is incapable of handling minor arguments without a mature adult holding your hand > > > > > > > > Which one of these two options actually sounds more appealing to you? Reaaaaaaaaaaaaally think long and hard about the final application of your idea of "banning toxic players" and where that will lead many years down the road. Reaaaaaaally think about it. Like, critical thinking. > > > > > > Oh please. You do not make thet call as to what distress is. ANET does. They put those rules in place for a reason . If you are not willing to abide by th terms of service, it on you. If people feel they have been subjected to a breach of service they can make a report. If you feel a person being a bad player is a breach of service then make a report. > > > > > > As to childlike behaviour, I do not consider name calling as anything BUT child like. > > > > That's exactly my point guy, I can say this conversation is offensive to me and have you banned by the afternoon because I am offended when people disagree with me. > > > > No I can't? Well, if anet says it's distressing, then off you go. Bye bye. No objective reasoning for you, you were causing me distress so now you're out. Plus my guild of extremely unbiased friends all agreed with me that you were a jerk - sounds unbiased and fair to me! Everyone agrees with me that you're a jerk so cya. > > > > Oh? That doesn't make sense to you? Well, since there's no possible objective standard to "distressing", and instead it's just whatever the hell some random anet employee wants it to be, you're gone buddy. > > > > Plus, you know, there's the whole other 10 points I made that are all valid reasons why this line of thought is extremely bad. > > Go ahead and report me then. You have that right. Do I? Because it's also up to some random anet employee whether or not reporting someone was "malicious", so maybe some dude forgot to drink his coffee this morning and now since there's no objective standard for anyone he just bans everyone in this thread, you, me, the guy two posts above you, because you know reasons. Or maybe just you get banned or maybe just I get banned. Not to mention you know, the other 10 valid reasons why this logic is terrible that still haven't been addressed. Man, I can't wait for this stuff to become law in the countries these people live in. Hooooooooooo boy that's going to be entertaining. A babysitter on every street corner with an AR-15 with no objective standard for what is and is not the law. All in the name of CUZ MUH FEELINS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 > @"Egorum.9506" said: > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > > > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > you must be nearly 30 or older... wrong or right? > > > > > > > > > > If your not 30 or older your a baaby and baabys shouldnt speak there nonsense opinions...../joke > > > > > > > > its not that.. > > > > > > > > players ive met that say things like get thicker skin tend to be of the older generations while the younger ones want to be rewarded for doing normal everyday activities > > > > > > Hahaha, yep, you've got it right > > > > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > @"Elmo Benchwarmer.3025" said: > > > > > > You were right to report him Tetsuyja. I'd have done the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Childish behaviour like displayed by your teammate is unacceptable. There is no excuse for taking your anger out on someone else over something as trivial as a video game. Especially when like in GW2 there is absolutely nothing at stake. As you can see though this kind of disrespectful and irresponsible behaviour has become the largely accepted norm. > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you're saying but I don't agree with you thinking this is actionable stuff that needs reporting. > > > > > > > > > > No offense intended here but people need to grow up for real, use the block feature. Nobody needs to be banning anybody else because "he said useless piece of". > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, is this what it's coming to now? Every time somebody says something that might hurt your feelings we need account action? Are we going to start arresting people out on the streets of they call you a kitten? > > > > > > > > > > If anything I think people need to be taught to have thicker skin. > > > > > > > > Part of the problem is that this can not be compared to what might happen out in the street. People subjected to abuse in the real world might just grin and bear it but GW2 is not real life it is a GAME.People play a game to have fun and if they are not having fun they stop playing. > > > > > > > > When the environment gets toxic people no longer have fun and just stop playing and it in the GAME players best interest that as many play the mode that is possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think part of the problem is that you think you should grin and bear it. Why do you think that? > > > > > > If someone is calling you trash why does their opinion matter to you? Why should it? Is it because you agree with them? Because if that's the case, and you're bothered by that, then how about getting better? If it's not then tell them to kitten off and move on with your life? > > > > > > I don't understand why someone else's words are affecting your life. > > > > > > You guys all sound like LoL players who are used to people getting banned for calling you bad. But is it not also toxic to be terrible at the game? Because to me it's way more toxic having your guardian go to home with the thief at the start of the game, than it is to have someone call you trash - one of those things directly affects my enjoyment of the game, and the other gets an instablock and I continue to enjoy my life without that person. > > > > > > This reminds me of that video of Tyler where he's freaking out because they ban people for "being toxic" but not for running it down mid to throw the game. It's a pathetic double standard where you don't want to be accountable for your kitten play that is affecting everyone else's enjoyment of the game but you don't want them to ruin your own enjoyment by calling you trash for playing bad. > > > > It is a GAME. So what if YOU are good at it and someone else is not. It a GAME. As to those double standards , your complaining about how terrible another player is compared to you is different then them complaining about how TOXIC another player is how exactly? If you claim people should just grow a thick skin and move on, why are you objecting to the OPs post? > > > > Translate to real life. You are playing a game of pickup hockey with people from the neighborhood against another team. One player on your team is not all that good. Do you start yelling out he a piece of SH** and should just leave already? How do you think others watching would react? > > > > ANET does not have rules against there being bad players. They do have rules against there being Toxic players. > > Throwing games because you want to be the special staff tempest or renegade is toxic to the other 9 people you affect. Stop playing kitten builds and learn the game mode if you want to play ranked, if you want to be special play unranked. If you insist on ruining 9 other people's day don't complain when they call you trash. Or how about returning team queue? This way, players can play what they want and avoid toxic players like yourself. You can make a team and control the builds of your 4 allies under team queue but under solo queue all you gunna get is a big stiff shit as players can play what they want without your need to tell them otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babazhook.6805 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > @"Legatus.3608" said: > > > > > > @"babazhook.6805" said: > > > > > > This is right out of RULES of Conduct something all players agree to when they Click "I accept" when installing this game. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated. > > > > > > > > > > > > It pretty clear what they are saying here . > > > > > > > > > > > > No where in that Rules of Conduct does it suggest that players "must be Good" or that players "Must play acceptable builds". > > > > > > > > > > > > Now again, I have never felt the need to report another player even though I have received such messages. That does not suggest that other players do not have that right should they feel they have been subject to such. > > > > > > > > > > But playing with eles on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > > > > > Playing with a guardian on my team who goes to my home node with me at start (I am the thief) "causes distress" to me and other players > > > > > Playing with revs on my team "causes distress" to me and other players > > > > > > > > > > Hell, playing against duo queue teams "causes distress" to me more than any of the above things, and that was sanctioned by anet as well as half the community. Why haven't all those people been banned? Why didn't anet ban themselves? > > > > > > > > > > You might read that and laugh, but that's what you sound like to me - someone call me a ninny and my feelings are hurt so I want him banned. > > > > > > > > > > You know what happened this morning when someone called me a kitten noob for running over to +1 on a 2v1 node? I called him a kitten and went back to mid - but now I won't +1 a 2v1 as a thief anymore, because I realized that was stupid. Maybe instead of hiding in our "safe spaces" and grabbing our blankies every time someone doesn't like something we did, we can all grow the kitten up and learn to deal with "toxicity". You people really haven't learned how to think things through properly. > > > > > > > > > > One of two things can happen. Scenario 1: "toxic" players start getting banned - > > > > > 1. well that's 80% of the people who play the game, so nobody is going to be left playing. This will actually lead to even MORE toxicity in the end, as the matchmaker struggles to correct massive imbalances caused by low population due to the high number of banned players > > > > > 2. In addition, everyone will be trash at pvp now, because none of the whiney children can get out of their safe space with their blankies long enough to learn how to pvp because they can't handle someone calling them a noob for +1 a 2v1 on the side node. > > > > > 3. Then, several years from now, long after the authorities have caved to your whining about someone calling you a noob, and since "toxicity" is absurdly vague to the point that you can't possibly define it, you get YOURSELF banned because someone else is offended by the phrase "fresh air ele is trash" because they happened to be playing fresh air ele and you didn't see that. Because by that time pretty much everything is offense to someone, and ele sucks balls in pvp so why the hell should anyone have to even see the words on their chat box. Everyone will be offended by everything, everyone is in a contest to be THE LEAST TOXIC PLAYER WOW > > > > > 4. everyone playing the game will be a whiney child who needs adult supervision at all times because we can't have anyone ever getting offended! ZOMG. Now anet is so overburdened by the number of referees they had to hire that the game content never gets released anymore and we have no content. Not even a new fractal, for years at a time. > > > > > > > > > > Or, the adult grown up version: "toxic" players don't get banned: > > > > > 1. people are still playing gw2 several years from now, because people aren't being banned for insanely kitten kitten > > > > > 2. people actually learn how to play pvp because not only are their teammates going to call them trash for playing bad, but they also get immediate feedback when they do something stupid and learn how to correct it right away > > > > > 3. several years from now, you are still allowed to type things in chat because people aren't banned for saying "hammer rev is bad" in public chat > > > > > 4. you learn how to deal with criticism, how to determine valid vs invalid criticism, in addition to minor degrees of critical thinking skills, as well you learn how to not be a whiney child who is incapable of handling minor arguments without a mature adult holding your hand > > > > > > > > > > Which one of these two options actually sounds more appealing to you? Reaaaaaaaaaaaaally think long and hard about the final application of your idea of "banning toxic players" and where that will lead many years down the road. Reaaaaaaally think about it. Like, critical thinking. > > > > > > > > Oh please. You do not make thet call as to what distress is. ANET does. They put those rules in place for a reason . If you are not willing to abide by th terms of service, it on you. If people feel they have been subjected to a breach of service they can make a report. If you feel a person being a bad player is a breach of service then make a report. > > > > > > > > As to childlike behaviour, I do not consider name calling as anything BUT child like. > > > > > > That's exactly my point guy, I can say this conversation is offensive to me and have you banned by the afternoon because I am offended when people disagree with me. > > > > > > No I can't? Well, if anet says it's distressing, then off you go. Bye bye. No objective reasoning for you, you were causing me distress so now you're out. Plus my guild of extremely unbiased friends all agreed with me that you were a jerk - sounds unbiased and fair to me! Everyone agrees with me that you're a jerk so cya. > > > > > > Oh? That doesn't make sense to you? Well, since there's no possible objective standard to "distressing", and instead it's just whatever the hell some random anet employee wants it to be, you're gone buddy. > > > > > > Plus, you know, there's the whole other 10 points I made that are all valid reasons why this line of thought is extremely bad. > > > > Go ahead and report me then. You have that right. > > Do I? Because it's also up to some random anet employee whether or not reporting someone was "malicious", so maybe some dude forgot to drink his coffee this morning and now since there's no objective standard for anyone he just bans everyone in this thread, you, me, the guy two posts above you, because you know reasons. Or maybe just you get banned or maybe just I get banned. Not to mention you know, the other 10 valid reasons why this logic is terrible that still haven't been addressed. > > Man, I can't wait for this stuff to become law in the countries these people live in. Hooooooooooo boy that's going to be entertaining. A babysitter on every street corner with an AR-15 with no objective standard for what is and is not the law. All in the name of CUZ MUH FEELINS Anet is a private business. You are not being threatened with an AR-15. ANEt has made it very clear what their standards of behaviour are and you agreed to those terms when you loaded the game. This is no different then a restaurant reserving the right to throw a customer out because he is verbally abusing their employees. This is no different then a Theater manager throwing out a customer because he stands up in the middle of a show and starts shouting. I can assure you if someone came in and started calling the receptionist that works in our office names our Boss would throw him out of the office , would have every right to do so, and would not need to use an AR-15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux P.1238 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 You wanna know what really blows my mind? is that ppl want anet to do more then there already doing? I mean there already banning peeps left & right for the absolute nothing in terms of verbal abuse. i should know. It has been mentioned on Tea time about the trigger happy syndrome that's been going on. So what more do you want? I don't get it, blows my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Boy.7138 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 > @"Tetsuyja.7805" said: > Hi, > i played a ranked pvp match today. i am atm playing gold3/platin1. i am playing most the time with hidden chat, so i don't see the written toxic stuff. today i forget to turn it 'off' (only /team was visible) and i've got this from my team mate (red= teammate, blue=me): > http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=8a581c-1533207751.png > it's nothing new that pvp is a toxic area. but these toxic players seem to be ignorant to any kind of report and consequences. **they should be!** That's what i wish. > ty for reading Anet needs to silence all players that can't interact with other people in a healthy and positive way. They should be able to continue playing cause the community is small, but they need to be muted in ALL chat channels. And they should not be allowed to join any groups. The muting should be done for periods of time based on the number and frequency of offenses. This is the best solution for dealing with toxic players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Block them and grow up. People need to stop being so sensitive and use the features that are already available to them. You can't control what other people do. If you're actually getting your feelings hurt by random comments, that's your problem. Ignore them, block them, your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Boy.7138 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > Block them and grow up. People need to stop being so sensitive and use the features that are already available to them. > > You can't control what other people do. If you're actually getting your feelings hurt by random comments, that's your problem. Ignore them, block them, your choice. You don't know who is on the other end of the keyboard. Someone once whispered my little sister that she should be raped and called her a bitch because she was new to pvp. Another time I messaged a person I thought was terrible at the game. I didn't message them anything terrible, but i just simply asked them if they were new to the game and me and them got to talking. They said to me that they wasn't new to the game, had been playing for years, but was recovering from a stroke. I'm just saying, you really have no idea who you are hurling insults at and what they may be dealing with in their real life. It's not as simple as just block and move on. Anet needs to silence those players if they don't know how to interact with people in a positive way. I'm not saying no one should be able to give criticism. Of course you can. But it is about how you say it. And people need to learn to quench their rage instead of spouting hate at people just trying to enjoy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 > @"Hot Boy.7138" said: > > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > > Block them and grow up. People need to stop being so sensitive and use the features that are already available to them. > > > > You can't control what other people do. If you're actually getting your feelings hurt by random comments, that's your problem. Ignore them, block them, your choice. > > You don't know who is on the other end of the keyboard. Someone once whispered my little sister that she should be kitten and called her a kitten because she was new to pvp. > > Another time I messaged a person I thought was terrible at the game. I didn't message them anything terrible, but i just simply asked them if they were new to the game and me and them got to talking. They said to me that they wasn't new to the game, had been playing for years, but was recovering from a stroke. > > I'm just saying, you really have no idea who you are hurling insults at and what they may be dealing with in their real life. It's not as simple as just block and move on. Anet needs to silence those players if they don't know how to interact with people in a positive way. I'm not saying no one should be able to give criticism. Of course you can. But it is about how you say it. And people need to learn to quench their rage instead of spouting hate at people just trying to enjoy the game. You're assuming I'm one of these people that rage pm and harass people over whisper. I don't. In fact, if I see my teammates even start to argue in team chat, I say, "Shut up and focus." It works 98% of the time. Regardless, if you don't want to interact with someone, block them or ignore them. It doesn't matter who you are or what you've suffered from. Be mature about it and use the block feature rather than coming on the forums crying "Poor me!" The tools to solve the issue are already in game. Coming here about a personal vendetta trying to get someone banned is childish. For all you know, the person hurling insults just had the worst day of his life. So, in your own words, you never know. Just block and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Boy.7138 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > > @"Hot Boy.7138" said: > > > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > > > Block them and grow up. People need to stop being so sensitive and use the features that are already available to them. > > > > > > You can't control what other people do. If you're actually getting your feelings hurt by random comments, that's your problem. Ignore them, block them, your choice. > > > > You don't know who is on the other end of the keyboard. Someone once whispered my little sister that she should be kitten and called her a kitten because she was new to pvp. > > > > Another time I messaged a person I thought was terrible at the game. I didn't message them anything terrible, but i just simply asked them if they were new to the game and me and them got to talking. They said to me that they wasn't new to the game, had been playing for years, but was recovering from a stroke. > > > > I'm just saying, you really have no idea who you are hurling insults at and what they may be dealing with in their real life. It's not as simple as just block and move on. Anet needs to silence those players if they don't know how to interact with people in a positive way. I'm not saying no one should be able to give criticism. Of course you can. But it is about how you say it. And people need to learn to quench their rage instead of spouting hate at people just trying to enjoy the game. > > You're assuming I'm one of these people that rage pm and harass people over whisper. > > I don't. > > In fact, if I see my teammates even start to argue in team chat, I say, "Shut up and focus." > > It works 98% of the time. > > Regardless, if you don't want to interact with someone, block them or ignore them. It doesn't matter who you are or what you've suffered from. Be mature about it and use the block feature rather than coming on the forums crying "Poor me!" The tools to solve the issue are already in game. Coming here about a personal vendetta trying to get someone banned is childish. For all you know, the person hurling insults just had the worst day of his life. So, in your own words, you never know. Just block and move on. There's no vendetta. I don't think they should be banned. But they should be muted from all chat channels and forbidden from joining groups for the duration. Toxic behaviors are usually a pattern. Not just a one time thing. I don't want to see them banned. They should continue to play, just keep their chat on lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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