Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Boy did it feel good to log in and see that. Thank you.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeL.8260 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Applauding something that should have been a no brainer? It's the only thing they have done right in this damn Season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Sadly I'm not sure if this is intended :/ The minimap for example still doesn't show the elite spec icons and afaik this change wasn't in the patch notes. Sure hope they don't "fix" it tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arioch.4810 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 This is a wonderful change for PvP! This + Rev utility glitches solved in this patch = we can see effort and good will from Anet's team. Job well done lads, please keep it up :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem.2637 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I'm not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 It great to have them. Just makes the game feel more polished, and now you have chance of some strategizing witch is always good in a team based game. I hope this isnt a bug since it wasnt in the patch notes but then again nearly anything we care about isnt in the patch notes like rev bug fixes. Im sure there were more bug fixes that werent mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Amy Giannetti II.5870 Posted October 17, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted October 17, 2018 This was not a bug. It had been purposly turned off at the request of previous members of the pvp team when elite specs were first introduced, so it was simple to turn it back on once I got the approval from the newer pvp team members. I've seen some questions about the LFG side of things in other threads and sadly LFG is not as simple, I did look into it. In a pvp match all the players are in the same map so we have access to their whole character, and pulling their specs out to check them is not difficult. LFG however is a tool that runs across maps so it certainly isn't going to hold onto entire characters (this would be an enourmous amount of duplicated memory). And so, LFG only has the most basic of information sent to it, which does not include which spec is in your elite spec slot. I don't think sending that data to LFG would be impossible, but it is a much larger task than the pvp one that will involve pulling in server programmers as well, so I don't expect it to happen any time soon (even though I'd like to have it too). And I'm sorry I missed both those patch notes. We fix so many more bugs than there are patch notes, I'm still learning which ones are worth calling out and which aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlette.9684 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 > @"Amy Giannetti II.5870" said: > And I'm sorry I missed both those patch notes. We fix so many more bugs than there are patch notes, I'm still learning which ones are worth calling out and which aren't. **All of them!** And thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 > @"Amy Giannetti II.5870" said: > This was not a bug. It had been purposly turned off at the request of previous members of the pvp team when elite specs were first introduced, so it was simple to turn it back on once I got the approval from the newer pvp team members. Wait for real? We actually have a PvP team now? We have new people in control that will guide us to glory? Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy PLEEEEEEEEEEASE GIVE US A TEAM DEATH MATCH :scream: Also welcome :heart: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broFenix.1632 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 > @"Amy Giannetti II.5870" said: > This was not a bug. It had been purposly turned off at the request of previous members of the pvp team when elite specs were first introduced, so it was simple to turn it back on once I got the approval from the newer pvp team members. > > I've seen some questions about the LFG side of things in other threads and sadly LFG is not as simple, I did look into it. In a pvp match all the players are in the same map so we have access to their whole character, and pulling their specs out to check them is not difficult. LFG however is a tool that runs across maps so it certainly isn't going to hold onto entire characters (this would be an enourmous amount of duplicated memory). And so, LFG only has the most basic of information sent to it, which does not include which spec is in your elite spec slot. I don't think sending that data to LFG would be impossible, but it is a much larger task than the pvp one that will involve pulling in server programmers as well, so I don't expect it to happen any time soon (even though I'd like to have it too). > > And I'm sorry I missed both those patch notes. We fix so many more bugs than there are patch notes, I'm still learning which ones are worth calling out and which aren't. No worries!! You're doing great it looks like to me! :) Thank you for all your effort, I love the game Anet has made and is improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidKami.2867 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Game feels a lot less empty now because of it. Makes it feel like there are a ton of classes and builds like there always has been but no one noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexander.4579 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 considering that elite spec icons were hidden at the start of HoT on the purpose of hiding the information from players so that they cant see who plays on weak core spec builds and who has an overtuned HoT spec there's little reason to applaud anet for stopping to hide the information from players nevertheless good job anet for undoing the wrong thing after 2 years... i guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 > @"Amy Giannetti II.5870" said: > This was not a bug. It had been purposly turned off at the request of previous members of the pvp team when elite specs were first introduced, so it was simple to turn it back on once I got the approval from the newer pvp team members. > > I've seen some questions about the LFG side of things in other threads and sadly LFG is not as simple, I did look into it. In a pvp match all the players are in the same map so we have access to their whole character, and pulling their specs out to check them is not difficult. LFG however is a tool that runs across maps so it certainly isn't going to hold onto entire characters (this would be an enourmous amount of duplicated memory). And so, LFG only has the most basic of information sent to it, which does not include which spec is in your elite spec slot. I don't think sending that data to LFG would be impossible, but it is a much larger task than the pvp one that will involve pulling in server programmers as well, so I don't expect it to happen any time soon (even though I'd like to have it too). > > And I'm sorry I missed both those patch notes. We fix so many more bugs than there are patch notes, I'm still learning which ones are worth calling out and which aren't. This was a great change! Thank you. I'm glad the newer PvP team members are on board with making changes like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alatar.7364 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Indeed, very appreciated. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodzynald.5897 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 New pvp team, eh? I find if bizzare for Anet still trying to poke a rock with a new stick. I wonder where that will lead us. I just hope the new lads and gals actually play the mode to in fact experience what is wrong with it, instead of just "monitoring the data", as the old team did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 > @"Rodzynald.5897" said: > New pvp team, eh? I find if bizzare for Anet still trying to poke a rock with a new stick. I wonder where that will lead us. I just hope the new lads and gals actually play the mode to in fact experience what is wrong with it, instead of just "monitoring the data", as the old team did. I just hope swiss and alliances are still on the table ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durzlla.6295 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Oh my god finally! This is a fantastic change! Now at a glance I can know roughly who can do what instead of every player being a schrodinger box. Also hopefully people will stop assuming I’m playing the espec I’m not... but people always amaze me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I don't actually know how to respond to the sudden appearance of a transparent team in the pvp sphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Ben Phongluangtham.1065 Posted October 18, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted October 18, 2018 > @"Rodzynald.5897" said: > New pvp team, eh? I find if bizzare for Anet still trying to poke a rock with a new stick. I wonder where that will lead us. I just hope the new lads and gals actually play the mode to in fact experience what is wrong with it, instead of just "monitoring the data", as the old team did. In terms of "newer" pvp team, it's the team we've had in place for a while now. When Amy is referring to old PvP team, she means from before HoT. The elite spec icon change has been on our backlog for a while, but with the current competitive programmers knee deep in swiss, special tournaments and world restructuring, we haven't had time to look into it. Amy volunteered to make the change for us, which we're very grateful for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Ben Phongluangtham.1065 Posted October 18, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted October 18, 2018 > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > @"Rodzynald.5897" said: > > New pvp team, eh? I find if bizzare for Anet still trying to poke a rock with a new stick. I wonder where that will lead us. I just hope the new lads and gals actually play the mode to in fact experience what is wrong with it, instead of just "monitoring the data", as the old team did. > > I just hope swiss and alliances are still on the table ? Our priorities haven't changed in regards to swiss and alliance changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghos.1326 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Although small, this change is actually really good. So yeah I'll applaud it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilman.1532 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > @"Amy Giannetti II.5870" said: > > This was not a bug. It had been purposly turned off at the request of previous members of the pvp team when elite specs were first introduced, so it was simple to turn it back on once I got the approval from the newer pvp team members. > > Wait for real? > > We actually have a PvP team now? We have new people in control that will guide us to glory? Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy > > > PLEEEEEEEEEEASE GIVE US A TEAM DEATH MATCH :scream: > > Also welcome :heart: Don't believe the hype kids. This i a feature that should have been around when HoT dropped. Praising these people for doing a minor thing that they should have done long ago just encourages them to not bother with real issues that have reduced this game mode to a complete laughing stock and clown fiesta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilman.1532 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 > @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" said: > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > @"Rodzynald.5897" said: > > > New pvp team, eh? I find if bizzare for Anet still trying to poke a rock with a new stick. I wonder where that will lead us. I just hope the new lads and gals actually play the mode to in fact experience what is wrong with it, instead of just "monitoring the data", as the old team did. > > > > I just hope swiss and alliances are still on the table ? > > Our priorities haven't changed in regards to swiss and alliance changes. Better to drop that stuff and fix the MAJOR GLARING issues the game mode has. Worst MMO class balance I have ever seen, virtually no enforcement on bad behavior, win trading, abusive behavior, etc, lack of game modes other than conquest for sPvP, I mean really I could go on forever. The population is in the toilet and ATs aren't going to change that. It'll just feed more loot to the same 5 streamer favored sons that always seem to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes.4607 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 This was a great change. They should make it so that the map shows the new icons too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodzynald.5897 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Thanks for clarification @"Ben Phongluangtham.1065" :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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