Aridon.8362 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 In case if you haven't heard already, Article 13 was passed in Europe, so I wanted to hear people's opinion on this since it is a big thing that could impact some of the well known players. Copyright is a huge issue in the gaming world and as a game dev I can understand why an act like this would be put into play. Maybe Anet don't care if users post content of their game around, improbably betting they don't, but imagine the what ifs that come into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Forgive my ignorance and laziness for not looking it up, but what is Article 13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I hadn’t heard. What’s article 13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider.5792 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 @"Just a flesh wound.3589" @"Randulf.7614" "Article 13 would force all online platforms to police and prevent the uploading of copyrighted content, or make people seek the correct licenses to post that content. For the most part this would mean filters that check content as it's uploaded would be mandatory for platforms including Facebook, Instagram, GitHub, Reddit and Tumblr, but also many much smaller platforms." Copied from some site: https://www.cnet.com/news/article-13-europes-hotly-debated-eu-copyright-law-explained/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mea.5491 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 The EU is getting worse each day, I hate this place. Time to pay for VPN and use US IPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 > @"Glider.5792" said: > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" @"Randulf.7614" > "Article 13 would force all online platforms to police and prevent the uploading of copyrighted content, or make people seek the correct licenses to post that content. For the most part this would mean filters that check content as it's uploaded would be mandatory for platforms including Facebook, Instagram, GitHub, Reddit and Tumblr, but also many much smaller platforms." > > Copied from some site: https://www.cnet.com/news/article-13-europes-hotly-debated-eu-copyright-law-explained/ > I suggest you edit your OP to add it. Most people aren’t content creators and many won’t know anything about this law. In addition a lot of people only read the OP then comment, so you’ll see this same question repeatedly. Edit. Nvm. Not the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 > @"Mea.5491" said: > The EU is getting worse each day, I hate this place. Time to pay for VPN and use US IPs. They even tried to define MEMEs from my understanding. Just another law using vague language! Nothing to see here folks (except it could be used loosely at a dangerous level!)... D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGranse.8652 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I am not worried at all. Nintendo kind of did this years ago and all the bad publicity they got from it backfired so the problem solved itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 This hasn't actually gone through yet - the directive is still being finalised, which means changes could be made. And even if/when the directive is approved it won't actually do anything until all the EU member states incorporate it into their laws, which even for fairly straight forward Directives can take years. Then it depends on exactly what form the enforcement takes. Unless the Directive fundamentally changes existing copyright law (which it doesn't sound like it will) many things people are worried about would be protected as permitted derivatives or parodies. The problem is that there's been talk of using automated software which can't make that kind of distinction, but that may just mean that some allowance has to be made for sites to have a real person check potential copyright violations instead of relying on software. And of course the approach to enforcement, the time scale and the consequences could be different for every EU nation, because it will be up to them to decide how they write it into law. In at least some cases the solution may be simply to ignore obviously negligible 'copyright violations' even if they are technically illegal. For many years it was technically illegal to use MP3 players in the UK because it required you to make a copy of a song from a CD or your PC (often 2 copies - from the CD to the PC and then to the MP3 player) and UK copyright law made no exceptions for copies made for personal use. But MP3 players were sold openly and legally in shops and millions of people used them without being arrested or fined because it was generally considered obvious to everyone involved that's not the kind of thing the law was intended to stop and it's simply not worth pursuing. It was finally fixed during a short-lived drive after an election to 'clean up' UK law - they quickly gave up on simplifying the whole thing because that's a huge amount of work, but that one and a few others did get fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I feel this is going to take a lot of work and a lot of money to actually enforce but will ultimately fail due to public and corporate backlash. I don't think A13 will be that effective overall and just another EU failure that ends up wasting a lot of peoples money. I see little benefit to the EU these days and with talks about a military super state to oppose the U.S.. our biggest ally of all things, I think it's well past time the EU just goes away entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibdabs.3410 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I seriously doubt the EU even understands the issue sufficiently to be able to formulate a law to cover it - they're THAT inept and behind the times. If it does somehow go through I doubt I'd even care, to be honest, because it will have no impact on me whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Basically for now dont upload videos with european artists or songs in your clips... A few of my vids had to be muted due to having bands like Enter Shikari playing in the background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexZero.7910 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 > @"Glider.5792" said: > @"Just a flesh wound.3589" @"Randulf.7614" > "Article 13 would force all online platforms to police and prevent the uploading of copyrighted content, or make people seek the correct licenses to post that content. For the most part this would mean filters that check content as it's uploaded would be mandatory for platforms including Facebook, Instagram, GitHub, Reddit and Tumblr, but also many much smaller platforms." > > Copied from some site: https://www.cnet.com/news/article-13-europes-hotly-debated-eu-copyright-law-explained/ So it's a much more Draconic DMCA ? It won't effect Anet in most regards then unless they use content for trailers that doesn't belong to them or isn't properly licesenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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