Balsa.3951 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 as the title says since private merchants cant be shared no reason to trick ppl by showing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJin.4127 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Maybe add to this thread? https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/65937/anybody-else-annoyed-by-loot-chests-trolling-lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDse.7623 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 i would prefer the personal merchant or trading post to work like the personal bank. so it just opens the window instead of spawning an npc for it. this way you dont annoy other players and you can open them all at once / more frequent than every 5 minutes. because now you spawn an npc and cannot spawn another for 5 minutes if you want to access TP again. every time i use either merchant or TP (not inside lootchests) i see a few people trying to use it and some try for quite some time thinking its not working as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rng.1024 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Or just make them free for all and add an area limit akin to that of siege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 The likely reason they don't work the same is (probably) that the bank uses a "node access" while the vendor interface is tied to an NPC. Some evidence of this: * Bank access closes completely when you move away; vendor access does not (the window can be reopened when you return). * Repair anvils can only repair; repair NPCs can also offer vendor services. So my theory is somehow the game requires an NPC to spawn the vendor interface and they'd have to reinvent that to stop the behavior that concerns that. (Those NPCs probably can't be invisible or non-interact either, for similar reasons.) On the other hand, maybe they can increase "collision detection" on the summons, so that people cannot accidentally nor purposefully spawn these NPCs near other nodes. They can also work on the priority for the [f]-interact key, so that other nodes will trigger first. I'm not against the OP's idea; I just doubt it's practical, from ANet's perspective. (And I prefer several other suggestions that have been proposed when this has come up in the past.) **** The way I work-around the problem in the meantime is to have a keyboard shortcut for `Next Ally` in your keyboard bindings under 'targeting'. By pressing a key, you cycle through the visible "allies" which fortunately include nodes & banners; keep pressing until the desired one is targeted, then press [f]. So at worst, I'm slowed by seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsa.3951 Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 > @"rng.1024" said: > Or just make them free for all and add an area limit akin to that of siege. that would be my dream but I can see why anet want keep it private Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelranaidh.3724 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > The likely reason they don't work the same is (probably) that the bank uses a "node access" while the vendor interface is tied to an NPC. Some evidence of this: > * Bank access closes completely when you move away; vendor access does not (the window can be reopened when you return). > * Repair anvils can only repair; repair NPCs can also offer vendor services. > > So my theory is somehow the game requires an NPC to spawn the vendor interface and they'd have to reinvent that to stop the behavior that concerns that. (Those NPCs probably can't be invisible or non-interact either, for similar reasons.) > The technology is already there, though. That's exactly how the _Tarrktun Personal Delivery Portal_ works. It has a vendor interface, yet doesn't spawn any NPC and can be used while moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 > @"maelranaidh.3724" said: > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > The likely reason they don't work the same is (probably) that the bank uses a "node access" while the vendor interface is tied to an NPC. Some evidence of this: > > * Bank access closes completely when you move away; vendor access does not (the window can be reopened when you return). > > * Repair anvils can only repair; repair NPCs can also offer vendor services. > > > > So my theory is somehow the game requires an NPC to spawn the vendor interface and they'd have to reinvent that to stop the behavior that concerns that. (Those NPCs probably can't be invisible or non-interact either, for similar reasons.) > > > > The technology is already there, though. That's exactly how the _Tarrktun Personal Delivery Portal_ works. It has a vendor interface, yet doesn't spawn any NPC and can be used while moving. > Good point, I forgot about that one, since I don't own it. That leaves two possibilities: * They created a new type of vendor access, which TPDP uses (but the other ones don't) and it's a nightmare to retrofit. * It's not a nightmare to retrofit, but neither is it trivial enough to allow for prioritizing the change. **** I haven't actually encountered problematic vendors in a while. I've seen more boxes of fun and water balloon buckets and aviator memory boxes. Adjusting interact priorities would assist with all those as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I'd really like this, especially for the golem banker which comes from the base game's deluxe edition. I often use those right away on my temporary characters (may as well, it's soulbound so I can't give it to anyone else and I'm going to delete them within 2 weeks) which means I'm using them in starter maps, sometimes in the tutorial instance. I usually make sure I go to an out of the way spot where I don't think anyone will see me, but more than once I've closed the bank window to find a new player standing next to the golem, running around it, obviously trying to use it and not understanding why it doesn't work. Then I feel like I'm trolling them, if only accidentally, when I have to tell them they can't use it. Or sometimes it turns out they don't speak English and then I can't even explain because I'm terrible at languages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameepa.6793 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Agreed. Permanent banker just opens the bank interface without popping out an NPC. Permanent merchant and TP should be changed to work like this too. I don't like to feel like I'm trolling others when I use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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