Cyninja.2954 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Limodriver.4106" said: > 200 ranks a day ktrain in eotm is possible People who play a game that hard are hardly the target audience for the WvW boost. This is not commenting on if someone should or shouldn't do this. What I'm saying is: if only people this dedicated are the target audience, a 1 week double WvW reward is hardly necessary since people this "devoted" would get the mount anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick.8967 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Probably eats 400 rank points or something, so you might need a total of gold rank to unlock all wvw ability lines.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie.9504 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I was hoping it would be platinum. Gold rank is stupid easy to do, you can grind that out PPTing for 8 hours a day for a month or so with some boosters. It would be better if they tied this in some way to kills. E.g. 125k kills or something, at least then it won't just make PvE players go into PPT monkeys until they grind it out and then leave the game mode forever thinking about how boring it is, when they only did the most boring parts of the game mode. To bring players to WvW, making it too easy to obtain would have the opposite effect of that goal. This is the only game I've ever seen where the playerbase *expects* to get something basically immediately or with very little effort required. Why even make anything required then, just give it to everyone just for creating an account and get done with it. I'd like them to add in nice rewards finally for people who hit max WvW rank, or have UD achievement unlocked. We don't even get an item for UD and it's probably one of the rarest if not the rarest achievements in the game considering the playerbase. Hitting Diamond Legend (10k) gives you the same crappy green and blue items that you get when you hit Rank 10. That's just stupid to me. WvW rewards are so shitty they would never, ever be able to bring players from other game modes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everyman.4375 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Towelie.9504" said: > I was hoping it would be platinum. > > Gold rank is stupid easy to do, you can grind that out PPTing for 8 hours a day for a month or so with some boosters. Ye only 8 hours a day, basicaly nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie.9504 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"everyman.4375" said: > > @"Towelie.9504" said: > > I was hoping it would be platinum. > > > > Gold rank is stupid easy to do, you can grind that out PPTing for 8 hours a day for a month or so with some boosters. > > Ye only 8 hours a day, basicaly nothing. Oh sorry, yeah nevermind lets just give it to anyone who makes an account. Heaven forbid it takes anyone more than a month to get an item in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everyman.4375 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Towelie.9504" said: > > @"everyman.4375" said: > > > @"Towelie.9504" said: > > > I was hoping it would be platinum. > > > > > > Gold rank is stupid easy to do, you can grind that out PPTing for 8 hours a day for a month or so with some boosters. > > > > Ye only 8 hours a day, basicaly nothing. > > Oh sorry, yeah nevermind lets just give it to anyone who makes an account. Heaven forbid it takes anyone more than a month to get an item in a game. Playing for 8 hours a day for a month is totally unrealistic. (For most people, obviously there will always be a guy playing 15 hours a day) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 no way it can be gold ranked, it would be ridiculous... and especially the fact that you can only the mount if you have PoF so anet must have identified there is quite a portion of the player population with WvW hours logged do not have PoF, and the potential for additional revenue through skin sales to continue WvW development newer players when they see the additional requirement of gold rank will just think "fuck that, taking too long, not gonna do WvW" having that gold rank requirement is a slap in the face to the players, especially those just purchase PoF, and a stomp on their own feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Towelie.9504" said: > I was hoping it would be platinum. > > Gold rank is stupid easy to do, you can grind that out PPTing for 8 hours a day for a month or so with some boosters. People have a real life you know... they need to work to pay for food and bills, a family to look after, and have face-to-face social interactions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails.9372 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 It should require Diamond Legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim West.3194 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 If it has any combat benefit at all then requiring Gold or any rank would be incredibly stupid. It will just push casuals and PvE players away and kill WvW for good. A reward track makes more sense and will bring in PvE players (who might one day become WvW players). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails.9372 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Grim West.3194" said: > It will just push casuals and PvE players away and kill WvW for good. That's already what it's going to do. It makes it a lot easier for defenders to swoop in and catch a new/PvE player trying to flip a camp off guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idolin.2831 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Towelie.9504" said: > I was hoping it would be platinum. > > Gold rank is stupid easy to do, you can grind that out PPTing for 8 hours a day for a month or so with some boosters. > > It would be better if they tied this in some way to kills. E.g. 125k kills or something, at least then it won't just make PvE players go into PPT monkeys until they grind it out and then leave the game mode forever thinking about how boring it is, when they only did the most boring parts of the game mode. > > To bring players to WvW, making it too easy to obtain would have the opposite effect of that goal. This is the only game I've ever seen where the playerbase *expects* to get something basically immediately or with very little effort required. Why even make anything required then, just give it to everyone just for creating an account and get done with it. > > > I'd like them to add in nice rewards finally for people who hit max WvW rank, or have UD achievement unlocked. We don't even get an item for UD and it's probably one of the rarest if not the rarest achievements in the game considering the playerbase. Hitting Diamond Legend (10k) gives you the same crappy green and blue items that you get when you hit Rank 10. That's just stupid to me. WvW rewards are so kitten they would never, ever be able to bring players from other game modes. So only veterans or people who zerg can get the mount? PPT for 8 hours a day for a month? That is longer than getting all the other mounts combined, plus people have a life - not everyone can afford to sit in front of a computer playing a video game for 8 hours a day for an entire month. Achieving Gold is not "creating an account and get done with it" - for newcomers it's a huge amount of time can only further dissuade them from the game mode. I'm not saying having the mount as a reward for high ranked players is wrong (nor do I agree), I'm just saying to many people Gold is not easy to achieve and it takes time, and it's not as accessible as you think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drecien.4508 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Limodriver.4106" said: > 200 ranks a day ktrain in eotm is possible But that map is a ghost town. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palador.2170 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Drecien.4508" said: > > @"Limodriver.4106" said: > > 200 ranks a day ktrain in eotm is possible > > But that map is a ghost town. ? Currently, yes. If ANet is smart, however, they'll make it possible to go there and earn it. If it needs something from one of the other WvW maps, they've messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drecien.4508 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Palador.2170" said: > > @"Drecien.4508" said: > > > @"Limodriver.4106" said: > > > 200 ranks a day ktrain in eotm is possible > > > > But that map is a ghost town. ? > > Currently, yes. > > If ANet is smart, however, they'll make it possible to go there and earn it. If it needs something from one of the other WvW maps, they've messed up. It would require some tweaking. Most people don't run it anymore due to lack of pips. If it gave pips at a lesser amount than other maps you'd get more people. As it usually just a zerg run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowzerk.4715 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 gold rank + 20 Gift of Battle :D ktrain? SURE, why not :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oOStaticOo.9467 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Most of you are just posting out of spite for this. It will more than likely be locked behind PoF and Mastery points, maybe something along the lines of locating the mount somewhere in WvW and performing a small task to obtain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Edward H Angle.1407" said: > > @"Towelie.9504" said: > > I was hoping it would be platinum. > > > > Gold rank is stupid easy to do, you can grind that out PPTing for 8 hours a day for a month or so with some boosters. > > > > It would be better if they tied this in some way to kills. E.g. 125k kills or something, at least then it won't just make PvE players go into PPT monkeys until they grind it out and then leave the game mode forever thinking about how boring it is, when they only did the most boring parts of the game mode. > > > > To bring players to WvW, making it too easy to obtain would have the opposite effect of that goal. This is the only game I've ever seen where the playerbase *expects* to get something basically immediately or with very little effort required. Why even make anything required then, just give it to everyone just for creating an account and get done with it. > > > > > > I'd like them to add in nice rewards finally for people who hit max WvW rank, or have UD achievement unlocked. We don't even get an item for UD and it's probably one of the rarest if not the rarest achievements in the game considering the playerbase. Hitting Diamond Legend (10k) gives you the same crappy green and blue items that you get when you hit Rank 10. That's just stupid to me. WvW rewards are so kitten they would never, ever be able to bring players from other game modes. > > Just a quick read and its clear that you don't have the experience to qualify for an opinion in this thread. Most of my guild members are mithril or diamond with UD 2-3 times over having, played wvw for 6+ years. Your 125K requirement is nothing, most of our entry rank level guild members are well over that mark. > > Plus if you only expect to PPT for 8 hrs a day, its obvious that you play in a pleb T4 server with poor coverage outside of NA prime. What server are you on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward H Angle.1407 Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > @"Edward H Angle.1407" said: > > > @"Towelie.9504" said: > > > I was hoping it would be platinum. > > > > > > Gold rank is stupid easy to do, you can grind that out PPTing for 8 hours a day for a month or so with some boosters. > > > > > > It would be better if they tied this in some way to kills. E.g. 125k kills or something, at least then it won't just make PvE players go into PPT monkeys until they grind it out and then leave the game mode forever thinking about how boring it is, when they only did the most boring parts of the game mode. > > > > > > To bring players to WvW, making it too easy to obtain would have the opposite effect of that goal. This is the only game I've ever seen where the playerbase *expects* to get something basically immediately or with very little effort required. Why even make anything required then, just give it to everyone just for creating an account and get done with it. > > > > > > > > > I'd like them to add in nice rewards finally for people who hit max WvW rank, or have UD achievement unlocked. We don't even get an item for UD and it's probably one of the rarest if not the rarest achievements in the game considering the playerbase. Hitting Diamond Legend (10k) gives you the same crappy green and blue items that you get when you hit Rank 10. That's just stupid to me. WvW rewards are so kitten they would never, ever be able to bring players from other game modes. > > > > Just a quick read and its clear that you don't have the experience to qualify for an opinion in this thread. Most of my guild members are mithril or diamond with UD 2-3 times over having, played wvw for 6+ years. Your 125K requirement is nothing, most of our entry rank level guild members are well over that mark. > > > > Plus if you only expect to PPT for 8 hrs a day, its obvious that you play in a pleb T4 server with poor coverage outside of NA prime. > > What server are you on? How many guilds do you know of that has so many elite members like me? If you are even a remotely true WvWer, you would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazyDaisy.4107 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I think there should be a pre-requisite rank involved, there was for the backpiece and armor, so I don't see that the mount would be any different. A pre-requisite eliminates the possibility of rank 10''s coming in, getting the mount and leaving. A higher pre-requisite (like gold) eliminates the possibility of Bronze and Silvers resetting their abilities and simply pushing all points into the mount. All current abilities can be maxed at mid Silver, so having a starting point for this mount, such as you need to be Gold to even obtain makes sense in that IF it requires 100's of additional points to fully utilize the mount skills that MAY be included OR added in the future ensures that everyone that atleast gets the mount in the first place actually had already put in some effort first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPanda.1872 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Traveller.7496" said: > It should be exclusive, make people work for it. That said, gold may be a bit high, perhaps silver would be all right. I feel like if it greatly affects balance, it should be almost entry level. I don't imagine any new players would like to struggle to keep up with other players just by running with a group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"Edward H Angle.1407" said: > > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > > @"Edward H Angle.1407" said: > > > > @"Towelie.9504" said: > > > > I was hoping it would be platinum. > > > > > > > > Gold rank is stupid easy to do, you can grind that out PPTing for 8 hours a day for a month or so with some boosters. > > > > > > > > It would be better if they tied this in some way to kills. E.g. 125k kills or something, at least then it won't just make PvE players go into PPT monkeys until they grind it out and then leave the game mode forever thinking about how boring it is, when they only did the most boring parts of the game mode. > > > > > > > > To bring players to WvW, making it too easy to obtain would have the opposite effect of that goal. This is the only game I've ever seen where the playerbase *expects* to get something basically immediately or with very little effort required. Why even make anything required then, just give it to everyone just for creating an account and get done with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like them to add in nice rewards finally for people who hit max WvW rank, or have UD achievement unlocked. We don't even get an item for UD and it's probably one of the rarest if not the rarest achievements in the game considering the playerbase. Hitting Diamond Legend (10k) gives you the same crappy green and blue items that you get when you hit Rank 10. That's just stupid to me. WvW rewards are so kitten they would never, ever be able to bring players from other game modes. > > > > > > Just a quick read and its clear that you don't have the experience to qualify for an opinion in this thread. Most of my guild members are mithril or diamond with UD 2-3 times over having, played wvw for 6+ years. Your 125K requirement is nothing, most of our entry rank level guild members are well over that mark. > > > > > > Plus if you only expect to PPT for 8 hrs a day, its obvious that you play in a pleb T4 server with poor coverage outside of NA prime. > > > > What server are you on? > > How many guilds do you know of that has so many elite members like me? If you are even a remotely true WvWer, you would know. Vabbi i would presume. And please stop with the elitist attitude in the forums, things are childish enough ingame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravezaar.4951 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 PvEr's forced to grind WvW for something special isnt that ironic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Doom.4380 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Given that the purpose of the mount is to sell a) skins and b) the Path of Fire Expansion, it seems highly unlikely ANEt will set anything but the very lowest bar. I would imagine it will be on a level with either the ranks required for Gliding (the exact equivalent from the HoT era) or the Catmander tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhHellzNo.1268 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 > @"HazyDaisy.4107" said: > I think there should be a pre-requisite rank involved, there was for the backpiece and armor, so I don't see that the mount would be any different. Like I said earlier in the thread, the mount has a functional purpose.The armor and back are mostly cosmetic. That's a HUGE difference. GW has never been about big grind to unlock skills/features, and grinding to gold from scratch would be basically the longest grind in the game of that type. > A pre-requisite eliminates the possibility of rank 10''s coming in, getting the mount and leaving. A higher pre-requisite (like gold) eliminates the possibility of Bronze and Silvers resetting their abilities and simply pushing all points into the mount. > > All current abilities can be maxed at mid Silver, so having a starting point for this mount, such as you need to be Gold to even obtain makes sense in that IF it requires 100's of additional points to fully utilize the mount skills that MAY be included OR added in the future ensures that everyone that atleast gets the mount in the first place actually had already put in some effort first. Why do you want people in WVW who don't really want to be there in the first place though? What does that actually do to the health of the game mode? It should be like a Black Friday sale. You advertise a cheap TV that maybe you break even on. The real goal is to get people to buy other items while they are in the store. You just need to get them in the door in the first place to make those extra sales. Same with mounts. Some will just go into WVW and never step foot in it again once they get the mount, but some will stay because they actually like it. Those are the ones you want playing WVW long term. And it doesn't take grinding 1000 ranks to figure out if WVW is for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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