Tekoneiric.6817 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Could non-humans become Exalted if they had the ritual? Taimi? It would be amusing for a skritt to become Exalted. The ultimate shiny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detergente Ariel.8147 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Yes. Its possible. With the departure of the gods nobody is watching the process so its no longer human exclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentMoore.9453 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The rituals that created the Exalted were of Forgotten/Mursaat origin, and later altered in order to create the Forged. Given that some of the Forged [aren't even bipedal creatures](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Forged_Hookhead "aren't even bipedal creatures") and that the ritual basically turns you into living energy encased in a shell, it's conceivably possible for any living thing to become Exalted (or Forged) if the correct rituals and bloodstone magic are applied. Trouble is, the only people we ever see with access to those rituals or that magic are insanely powerful NPCs in the game, and almost never the good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"Detergente Ariel.8147" said: > Yes. Its possible. With the departure of the gods nobody is watching the process so its no longer human exclusive it was an ancient ritual of the Forgotten, the human gods never had anything to do with it At this stage, the true ritual is probably now truly lost, as Balthazaar was the last person to laid their eyes on the 'instructions' The ritual Balthazaar used to create the Forged is a modified version of the original ritual, by forcibly shoving a soul into armor and binding it to the caster's will, as he did with Herald of Balthazar, aka Devona. Blish uploaded his conscious into a golem, just like what we see in Asura's personal story, but whether the context in Asura's term 'conscious' = 'soul' we dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eekasqueak.7850 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 > @"crepuscular.9047" said: > > @"Detergente Ariel.8147" said: > > Yes. Its possible. With the departure of the gods nobody is watching the process so its no longer human exclusive > > it was an ancient ritual of the Forgotten, the human gods never had anything to do with it > > At this stage, the true ritual is probably now truly lost, as Balthazaar was the last person to laid their eyes on the 'instructions' > > The ritual Balthazaar used to create the Forged is a modified version of the original ritual, by forcibly shoving a soul into armor and binding it to the caster's will, as he did with Herald of Balthazar, aka Devona. > > Blish uploaded his conscious into a golem, just like what we see in Asura's personal story, but whether the context in Asura's term 'conscious' = 'soul' we dont know I mean, weren't golems originally made by binding the souls of elementals already? Back in EotN? I'm almost positive that soul and consciousness are just the same thing, gotta remember what seems like future tech that the Asura use actually just runs on applied magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > I mean, weren't golems originally made by binding the souls of elementals already? Back in EotN? I'm almost positive that soul and consciousness are just the same thing, gotta remember what seems like future tech that the Asura use actually just runs on applied magic. The elemental essence thing was one of Zinn's experiments, per Nicholas the Traveler, that we never got to see the outcome of. And not really their soul but whatever that essence stuff they drop is - djinn flesh, I guess? The Iron Forgeman, which wasn't a golem, was powered by three bound and living fire djinn though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eekasqueak.7850 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 > @"Konig Des Todes.2086" said: > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > > I mean, weren't golems originally made by binding the souls of elementals already? Back in EotN? I'm almost positive that soul and consciousness are just the same thing, gotta remember what seems like future tech that the Asura use actually just runs on applied magic. > > The elemental essence thing was one of Zinn's experiments, per Nicholas the Traveler, that we never got to see the outcome of. And not really their soul but whatever that essence stuff they drop is - djinn flesh, I guess? > > The Iron Forgeman, which wasn't a golem, was powered by three bound and living fire djinn though. It's a bit vague what "essence" could mean I suppose. Maybe golems just have a sort of artificial soul. I'd still venture to say that Blish's soul does inhabit the golem he's in. Does make me wonder how related golems and exalted might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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