Kamikazi.5380 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Put it simply, we will get a new weapon to fill a void the class doesn’t have. What does the class have currently? Tl;dr at the bottom ✔️ Sword/sword: fast, agile power weapon set ✔️ Hammer: long range power set ✔️ Staff: Defensive/support weapon set ✔️ Shield: Off hand defense set ✔️Mace/axe: Condi melee set ✔️Shortbow: long range condi set What are we missing? A two handed power burst melee ranged weapon. So what are Rev’s options? Let’s knock them off, the next elite spec will not be supportive or condi since we already got Glint and Renegade for those roles. It will have to be a power based build. ❌Mainhand axe: Will it be condi? We already have mainhand mace for that. Will it be power? We already have mainhand sword for that. ❌Focus: Already have shield for defense, would have to be compete with both condi and power core offhands to be usable with the mainhands ❌Warhorn: Glint already a support spec, Renegade arguably also ❌Torch: Would have to compete with axe, we already got a condi elite spec with Renegade ❌Offhand mace: Can’t be condi because we have Renegade, we already have our one handed power set ❌Longbow: Already got shortbow ❌Rifle: Already got hammer for long range dps ❌Pistol: Not aligned with Revenant theme ❌Torch: Already got our condi elite spec with Renegade, would compete with axe ❌Daggers: We literally already have an assassin spec, and sword sword fulfills this role ❌Scepter: Again wouldn’t be condi because we have Renegade, wouldn’t be power because it lacks synergy with Rev’s only two offhands ✔️Greatsword: Power based spec, would fulfill Revenant’s missing two handed melee damage based weapon. Wouldn’t clash with any synergy core offhands have. Tl;dr: Next elite spec will be a selfish power based spec, because both Herald and Renegade are support the latter being condi. Revenant is missing a two handed power melee option, greatsword is the only likely candidate. Remember this thread, see you in two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Its absolutely not proven, and completely wishlisting. It could be a power axe mainhand for one. Dont post misleading threads when theres no proof at all. Revs does not need Greatswords, sets them apart from the other heavy classes. Dont try to homogenize everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikazi.5380 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 And why would it be power mainhand axe? What would it possibly achieve that mainhand sword doesn’t? Would it be hybrid like offhand axe? Then that would mean the next elite spec would have some condi elements, but it’s unlikely as we just got Renegade which is used both by condi and power. Thread is not misleading, by process of elimination the most likely weapon is GS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Assuming GW2 professions receive a 3rd elite spec.....dotdot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 The thread is misleading, Anet could do anything with any weapons. Like an axe is condi for some specs and power for another. Dont presume that some weapons will be condi only as possible choices. And so far it doesnt look like we get a third espec anytime soon with season 5 comming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobaniec.9561 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Or they can just troll you and make a new elite spec with melee scepter+warhorn at once ![](https://i.imgur.com/wVSzTcM.gif?1 "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safandula.8723 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 gr8 sword would be fun, but it wont synergise with shiro - only power legend. my bet is on dagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianTheAngelic.7054 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 They absolutely could introduce two weapons at the same time. They functionally did that with spelbreaker, even though it was “the same” weapon (really it’s not though since it’s coded as both mainland and offhand). I want scepter + focus. Shield is pure defense and healing, but that doesn’t mean focus can’t be defensive utility or damage. Scepter can fill the void for a one handed range power option with good power AoE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Francois.4328 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I'd actually like to see dual dagger being added baseline. Specifically, Dagger MH being a hybrid condi weapon, and dagger OH being the old sword OH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Revenant is a flawed designed class in the get go. Should have had a few of those named as base weapons when they decided that the no weapon swap concept didnt work well for this class. The number of weapons was limited because of that, but we all know how that turned out. Ventari needs a real support stock weapon. Which should have been a baseline scepter and focus. Ranged dual daggers should have been a stock weapon as well like the alpha datamine leaks. Staff should have stayed a defensive weapon like the datamine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Can always count on LucianDK to naysay the gs threads. Anyways OP, some of your reasonings need refining. For example, short bow is not long distance, it’s short range. However, your reasons for getting GS are pretty sound, although, I’d argue not as a power weapon but as a hybrid Condi/power weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperLooser.2698 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 With Rev a very important thing is also what legend is tied to what weapon. GS really atm seems only some of those norn legendary mercenary like Svaard could possibly be one. Ofc Anet can just make up some random new ancient xxx person anytime. Also can somehow make Balthazar make work too, would fit well the "Magical Warrior" description revs have with some fiery greatsword schenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcx.3570 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Also, anet has said that there's no immediate plans for another expansion. Soooo, time to go play War/Guard if you really wanna be a Twilight boi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 > @"HyperLooser.2698" said: > With Rev a very important thing is also what legend is tied to what weapon. GS really atm seems only some of those norn legendary mercenary like Svaard could possibly be one. Ofc Anet can just make up some random new ancient xxx person anytime. > > Also can somehow make Balthazar make work too, would fit well the "Magical Warrior" description revs have with some fiery greatsword schenanigans. Which is exactly what the guardian is doing, just with axe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 > @"HyperLooser.2698" said: > With Rev a very important thing is also what legend is tied to what weapon. GS really atm seems only some of those norn legendary mercenary like Svaard could possibly be one. Ofc Anet can just make up some random new ancient xxx person anytime. > > Also can somehow make Balthazar make work too, would fit well the "Magical Warrior" description revs have with some fiery greatsword schenanigans. Which is exactly what the guardian is doing, just with axe. And I am naysaying gs threads because they are just trying to homogenize the classes and wanting to be edgelord. And I do have a twilight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos.7460 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 nope, because there is no next expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 > @"Arkantos.7460" said: > nope, because there is no next expansion > This lol^ Think they got enough things they gotta fix before thinking about an expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 > @"LucianDK.8615" said: > > @"HyperLooser.2698" said: > > With Rev a very important thing is also what legend is tied to what weapon. GS really atm seems only some of those norn legendary mercenary like Svaard could possibly be one. Ofc Anet can just make up some random new ancient xxx person anytime. > > > > Also can somehow make Balthazar make work too, would fit well the "Magical Warrior" description revs have with some fiery greatsword schenanigans. > > Which is exactly what the guardian is doing, just with axe. > And I am naysaying gs threads because they are just trying to homogenize the classes and wanting to be edgelord. And I do have a twilight. Guess you didn’t like GW1 then :D Does double swords make you an edge lord too? Also, I can one up you, I have Eternity. Guess what, I’ve transmuted it, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaylin.1860 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 > @"Kamikazi.5380" said: > Thread is not misleading, by process of elimination the most likely weapon is GS. It will be melee Rifle because Hammer. There you go. You're welcome. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalruse.9085 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Honestly, ANet could also just make Dagger/Dagger baseline with the current sword skills and add main hand sword for a S/x power build. The inertia for Sword main hand is completely tied up in Rytlock being the "first" Revenant and needing to still use Sohothin. Doing the above still preserves this idea while honoring Shiro as a D/D assassin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 > @"digitalruse.9085" said: > Honestly, ANet could also just make Dagger/Dagger baseline with the current sword skills and add main hand sword for a S/x power build. > > The inertia for Sword main hand is completely tied up in Rytlock being the "first" Revenant and needing to still use Sohothin. Doing the above still preserves this idea while honoring Shiro as a D/D assassin. Shiro was sword sword, but GW1 didnt have that as a game mechanic so it was display alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric.4713 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Stop it with the greatsword already, that weapon would only cement our gameplay further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 > @"Elric.4713" said: > Stop it with the greatsword already, that weapon would only cement our gameplay further. Into greatness. Mesmers use Greatswords and mesmers are great. Greatswords make classes great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanok.3027 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > Into greatness. Mesmers use Greatswords and mesmers are great. Greatswords make classes great. No, they don't. I barely, if ever, use Greatsword for my Power Chrono unless I need non-projectile ranged and most times, I don't. Ranger? I prefer other weapons or condi. Guardian? Non-GS FB please or Sw/Focus + Longbow DH. Warrior? I already barely use Warrior, but D/D SB or Ax/Ax. Really, GS is not that great. Rev doesn't need it and I'd welcome something OTHER than that. Also, pistol doesn't fit them theme...lol. I can't even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 > @"Kanok.3027" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > Into greatness. Mesmers use Greatswords and mesmers are great. Greatswords make classes great. > > No, they don't. I barely, if ever, use Greatsword for my Power Chrono unless I need non-projectile ranged and most times, I don't. Ranger? I prefer other weapons or condi. Guardian? Non-GS FB please or Sw/Focus + Longbow DH. Warrior? I already barely use Warrior, but D/D SB or Ax/Ax. Really, GS is not that great. Rev doesn't need it and I'd welcome something OTHER than that. Also, pistol doesn't fit them theme...lol. I can't even. Name one class with a Greatsword and so happens to be a bad class. I will wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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