Oglaf.1074 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 **As long as they never-ever introduce Gemstore-exclusive Waypoints I don't mind some newbie lining Anets pockets by buying this.** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurfu.5623 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I think it's overpriced, and kinda dumb... but people were asking for something like this, so they got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blambidy.3216 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @Fallesafe.5932 said: > > @blambidy.3216 said: > > I know bags in gemstore are not pw2. I know the gathering materials aren't. The extra bank. However arenanet announced unlocking waypoints in a map? Arenanet just gave mounts so why did they waste time on making unlocking map? There's so many things they could've fixed or added. But since I said they added a p2w feature. I'm saying because basically 100 complete all maps give a mastery point and extra farming materials. If you get all zones with that in the gemstore wouldn't that mean p2w? What you guys think? > > I just bought it, and love it. Stay salty. > XD lol. Did you get mats included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @Ayakaru.6583 said: > P2W means getting something by paying, that is otherwise unobtainable. > Waypoints are obtainable without cash, so its not P2W. This is not a discussion. > As four whether it's a good product, maybe, but not for me. Now we have mounts you can run across a map in 5 minutes, so i think its a waste money to buy these Actually pay to win also means paying for the best of what's possible in-game. Most pay to win games do include free options to get the same things, but it's usually hugely impractical. For example you'll have the option of buying a more powerful weapon for 30 tokens, where you can get 1 token per day by defeating a boss, or you can pay £2.99 and get it right now. So either you spend a month grinding that same fight over and over before you can move on to things that require better equipment or you can pay a small amount of money and move on to doing something more fun right now. Then you'll complete the next bit and be faced with the same choice again - pay for an upgrade or spend ages working on it for free. That's what sets this apart for me - getting all the waypoints unlocked, even getting to level 80, isn't difficult and there's actually advantages to doing it the old way instead of paying to skip it. But I'm concerned that if players accept this, and pay for it, they could start selling other things - like full map completion. Maybe dressed up as a more minor thing - like paying 100 gems to unlock a random heart - relatively harmless on it's own but it means if you pay enough you can buy a huge chunk of world completion, much more than the waypoints which unlock automatically as soon as you get near them. Then maybe they'll let you buy random hero challenges too, and POIs or vistas and...oh look, now you can actually buy world completion. Players already sell dungeon and raid clears for gold, if that's ok why not let Anet sell it for gems too? You can pay to unlock a story step, why not pay to complete it too? Or to get the items that come from the achievements? I think (hope) it's highly unlikely Anet would ever implement any of that, but it's a similar idea and it's where I could easily see this going with some other games/studios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulter.2315 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I wouldn't buy it but I don't think it does any damage to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryan Arlande.6184 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 They ruined their once beautiful core-game with mounts. Now they sell the debris. Guess, they made an big error with mounts in tyria and now the playerbase is melting down. Now they're panicking. I think, selling-rate for waypoints is very low - look at the low changing-rate gold for gems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahlen.7591 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 For the amount of gems it costs it should be account wide and literally every WP in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrulisse.1246 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @"Aryan Arlande.6184" said: > They ruined their once beautiful core-game with mounts. > > Now they sell the debris. > > Guess, they made an big error with mounts in tyria and now the playerbase is melting down. > > Now they're panicking. > > I think, selling-rate for waypoints is very low - look at the low changing-rate gold for gems Ruined the core-game with mounts? It makes it much more fun. I don't understand this mindset. Anyway about the Waypoint item. I don't mind it, I just hope it's not opening the door for more blatant stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseofGilead.8907 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 > @"Aryan Arlande.6184" said: > They ruined their once beautiful core-game with mounts. > > Now they sell the debris. > > Guess, they made an big error with mounts in tyria and now the playerbase is melting down. > > Now they're panicking. > > I think, selling-rate for waypoints is very low - look at the low changing-rate gold for gems The expansion has been out for two weeks. Odds are that this gem store item was in development a good while before its release this week and a good while before PoF was released. I doubt that anyone is panicking here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 At this point in the game, it is a useful, optional aid for new and multi alt players to catch up on. Since it dorsnt affect me beyond funding more content, I have no objection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Someone in another WP's-for-sale thread reported that the unlocks are per character. If true, my thought is that this offering is ridiculously overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilkemia.8507 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 My thought is : "Why would I buy a gemstore item to unlock something I could unlock in-game already?" I just don't see the point of it, especially since mounts are now a thing and even without them, getting waypoints on the maps isn't hard, just a bit time consuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alga.6498 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Sure it's a nice thing for those who dont have much time for playing and can afford gems to unlock this special feature and want all WPs on their main/alts, though I don't get why this is only a single purchase per character. If it was accountwide then I would def buy it right away since I do have quite alot of characters, in fact the maxed slots along with the PoF extra slot, 71 in total, :sunglasses: But the best thing they created was the **Teleport to a Friend**. Best thing ever! :D So if you have lots of those, you dont really need to unlock all the WPs since Vanilla is... done, :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchofas.8243 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I haven't played any game that is not p2w. I also don't see anything wrong with p2w games. Money, stands above all else after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castlemanic.3198 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 > @Ahlen.7591 said: > For the amount of gems it costs it should be account wide and literally every WP in the game. And every future wp as well. Seriously this price is insane for a single character, just under thirty dollars is crazy. If this feature was "every way point unlocked is unlocked account wide for all current and future characters and maps", the price would maybe be justifiable. As it is, it costs way too much. 600 gems for full core tyria unlock on a single chatacter at best,if not every map currently available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaltys.7649 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I don't see the point either. Still gonna have to run all around to get the hero points, the waypoints won't make that much faster. Unless I'm overlooking something, this seems overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daleon.8912 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 An account-wide unlock might be worth the 2000 gems. For one character it's really overpriced in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith.7301 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 It's an obsolete purchase now that mounts are out. And I would never pay 2k gems for a character bound unlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameepa.6793 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 It's just waypoints so who cares. Guess it's just good for everyone if someone is willing to pay for that. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalkingwolf.6035 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 > @glenndevis.8327 said: > I want an unlock all heart quest pack in the gem store. ^^ @topic -> headshack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrdeye.1028 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 It's not pay to win. It's a terrible value as well. I'd pay 400 gems for it as is. Waypoints are easy to unlock. If it unlocked all Waypoints (maybe not the PoF ones) account wide, it would be a better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irreverent.3594 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 It's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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