Brutaly.6257 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I assume there will be a rune for FB and the question is what stats and final effect they have. I assume rune no 1, 3 and 5 will add condition damage. For the rest one can only speculate but why not vitality or boon duration for rune 2 and 4. For the last one some sort of boon when using a mantra. Likely protection (FB lack protection) or swiftness. Quickness or quickness duration is also likely. If santa arrives early barrier would be such a huge save by anet, but very unlikely. Anyone else up for a guessing game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azoqu.8917 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 We'll probably get condi damage and concentraion (not boon duration because Anet hates us) with the 6th bonus being something like burn surrounding foes when you apply quickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghotistyx.6942 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Considering the other profession's runes, It would have to be related to quickness. The current runes that give quickness have pretty terrible requirements, so this could be a more reliable/useful source. Its also likely that the rune won't be too tailored to FB, as many other classes can take advantage of different profession runes, Scrapper the biggest, but even my Warrior uses Guardian runes to effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutaly.6257 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 I think it will be tied to the mantras which would benefit and buff mesmer mantras as well. Pretty much how DH runes are designed, letting ranger/thief benefit from them as well. Might be condi cleanse. It might also tied to aegis since the amount of aegis FB can deal make it suitable for the 6th rune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahmia.2193 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Condi damage main stat. Concentration secondary? Then some gain x boon on mantra use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 +20% quickness duration gain quickness on being hit proc on crit for fire field/aura, burning duration increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kKagari.6804 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Arenanet have been pretty lazy with their elite spec runes so far, its probably going to be 1-5 dual stats, and 6 will be something like Whenever you fully charge a meditation, gain light aura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutaly.6257 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 would also be cool with a burn duration and boon duration rune with a 25% movement . Imo that would be close to perfect for a burn guardian/DH/FB, suitable for a lot of other professions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperBishop.1574 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The minor grandmaster trait for firebrand gives stats when you've got quickness, right? Condi damage, toughness, and healing power, I think? It's possible the rune will buff Condi damage, then one of the other two stats. The rank 6 could be a specific buff to quickness duration, but I feel like a triggered effect that applies quickness is more likely, instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxo.7430 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Looking at +(sec) quickness every time a heal skill is use. (20sec cd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarox.9601 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (1): +50 condition damage (2): +5% Quickness duration (3): +100 healing power (4): +on hit quickness for 3 sec (30 sec cd) + protection for 6 sec (45 sec cd) (5): +150 condition dmg (6): +25% Movement Speed + 50 condition dmg and healing power + 15% quickness duration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cave Rock.4869 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 > @Brutaly.6257 said: > I think it will be tied to the mantras which would benefit and buff mesmer mantras as well. > > Pretty much how DH runes are designed, letting ranger/thief benefit from them as well. > > Might be condi cleanse. > > It might also tied to aegis since the amount of aegis FB can deal make it suitable for the 6th rune. I hope it is condition cleanse or something cool like aegis can now stop unblockable attacks on the 6th rune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psizone.8437 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'd love a +175 Condition damage, +30% burning duration and +25% movement speed rune set. Similar to the Balthazar set but with the movement speed buff to help us along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarox.9601 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 > @psizone.8437 said: > I'd love a +175 Condition damage, +30% burning duration and +25% movement speed rune set. Similar to the Balthazar set but with the movement speed buff to help us along. that rune of lynx in pvp is not bad. wish we had that in other game modes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The 6th bonus is most likely going to interact with Mantras. Something like grant 1s of quickness after using a Mantra. Keeping in line with the rest of the class runes that modify an elite utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutaly.6257 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 > @Ragnarox.9601 said: > (1): +50 condition damage > (2): +5% Quickness duration > (3): +100 healing power > (4): +on hit quickness for 3 sec (30 sec cd) + protection for 6 sec (45 sec cd) > (5): +150 condition dmg > (6): +25% Movement Speed + 50 condition dmg and healing power + 15% quickness duration That would a wet dream tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikau.6920 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Most likely something related to quickness or on mantra use. For the stats I believe it will be condition damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Here's a list of all of the new tunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarox.9601 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Firebrand (1): +25 Condition Damage (2): +5% Boon Duration (3): +50 Condition Damage (4): +10% Boon Duration (5): +100 Condition Damage (6): +20% Quickness Duration; when you use an elite skill, inflict burning on nearby enemies. (Cooldown: 45s) such a disappointment. (this rune is actually good for chrono + no movement trait again, i thought they might need us something for mantras - using mantras give swiftness or 25% movement, but this- meh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcaedus.7290 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Scourge runes may actually better suit FB than the FB runes depending on build. It does give FB an additional "oh, shi-" button in a sense which is something that FB very much need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutaly.6257 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 I actually think those are pretty nice, i aim for a quickness/aegis build and that is pretty much spot on for retreat/aegis as well. those runes some and concentration armor and i might have hit a sweet spot tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghotistyx.6942 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 > @Brutaly.6257 said: > > @Ragnarox.9601 said: > > (1): +50 condition damage > > (2): +5% Quickness duration > > (3): +100 healing power > > (4): +on hit quickness for 3 sec (30 sec cd) + protection for 6 sec (45 sec cd) > > (5): +150 condition dmg > > (6): +25% Movement Speed + 50 condition dmg and healing power + 15% quickness duration > > That would a wet dream tbh. That's also an overloaded rune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 > @Ragnarox.9601 said: > Firebrand > (1): +25 Condition Damage > (2): +5% Boon Duration > (3): +50 Condition Damage > (4): +10% Boon Duration > (5): +100 Condition Damage > (6): +20% Quickness Duration; when you use an elite skill, inflict burning on nearby enemies. (Cooldown: 45s) > > such a disappointment. (this rune is actually good for chrono + no movement trait again, i thought they might need us something for mantras - using mantras give swiftness or 25% movement, but this- meh) While it could have been more damage oriented, these are a nice collection ... we got lots of boons and this also increases duration on Quickness. Is this the official released stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperBishop.1574 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 It's the ones that got put up on the wiki, so probably! Also, that's kind of an amazing setup for a condi/support Firebrand. I remember seeing speculation that you could get perma quickness with around 38% boon duration? Not quite sure how they got to it, since it was a comment in a reddit thread a while back, but if it's true and that was all we needed in terms of boon duration in runes alone... That opens up a lot of freedom for builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabbitUp.8294 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 > @PaperBishop.1574 said: > I remember seeing speculation that you could get perma quickness with around 38% boon duration? Not quite sure how they got to it, since it was a comment in a reddit thread a while back, but if it's true and that was all we needed in terms of boon duration in runes alone.. You can maintain perma-quickness with only 31% boon duration, which is covered with just a Sigil of Concentration. That number gets lower if you have alacrity and/or Pure of Voice. I also assume that Stand your Ground is bugged currently and won't provide 10s of quickness on live (otherwise you can do perma-quickness with no boon duration). The skills used are: Heal: Mantra of Solace Utility: Mantra of Potence Elite: Feel my Wrath You use 1 charge of MoS every 12s. Feel my Wrath on cooldown. Mantra of Potence is used fully (all 3 charges), putting it on cooldown. Of course, that means you will have to recast it every 25s, which is a 1.3s dps downtime, but I believe you will still be ahead by using a full condi build (stats, runes, foods, everything) with only a Sigil of Concentration, instead of sacrificing your runes or gear for boon duration/concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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