Axl.8924 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I want to check out Mesmer but afraid after all the nerfs to Mesmer. The classes I was playing the most were:Necromancer elementalist and mesmers with chronomancer for pve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn.9024 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 In **PvE** - still usefull In **PvP** - i dont know In **WvW ZvZ** - boring, broken class (there are better classes for squad) In **WvW Roamer** - i thing still usefull (mirage certainly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 > @"Axl.8924" said: > I want to check out Mesmer but afraid after all the nerfs to Mesmer. > > The classes I was playing the most were:Necromancer elementalist and mesmers with chronomancer for pve. it was on par with other dps, mb slightly worse. now it got nerfed, add 1 and 1 together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusayu.3629 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Power Chrono is pretty good, at least in raids although it's outclassed by Weaver. The rotation is fast-paced and a lot of fun, compared to a snoozefest like DGH for example. In optimal fractal groups it's outclassed by DGH and Weaver, though. The burst just takes too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodle Ant.1605 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 It’s still good in openworld due to self buffing against vets and higher, otherwise core mes for trash mobs + panic buttons (or if you don’t use Csplit burst). Fractals/dungeons, it’s theoretically not very good at all, but it’s the best power mes build and manages to hold on if boss doesn’t phase and dies not too fast but not too slow (as the Csplit burst ends) to hide your pitiful sustained damage. Self buffing means that it still ‘looks good’ in pug groups even though it’s actually not meta-wise. Raids, nothing really changed as long as you demand other players to apply slow for you. Otherwise, it’s now a pretty bad spec to bring for dps since you have other specs simply dishing out 30% more than you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Handler.4816 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 > @"Noodle Ant.1605" said: > It’s still good in openworld due to self buffing against vets and higher, otherwise core mes for trash mobs + panic buttons (or if you don’t use Csplit burst). > > Fractals/dungeons, it’s theoretically not very good at all, but it’s the best power mes build and manages to hold on if boss doesn’t phase and dies not too fast but not too slow (as the Csplit burst ends) to hide your pitiful sustained damage. Self buffing means that it still ‘looks good’ in pug groups even though it’s actually not meta-wise. > > Raids, nothing really changed as long as you demand other players to apply slow for you. Otherwise, it’s now a pretty bad spec to bring for dps since you have other specs simply dishing out 30% more than you are. Power chrono in raids is very weird. It's either not taken at all or its makes up half the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodle Ant.1605 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > Power chrono in raids is very weird. It's either not taken at all or its makes up half the squad. Yes, because a pchrono comp removes the need for boon chrono since it can supply perma quickness and slow by coordinating Timewarp whilst dealing higher-than-average dps. Remove one pchrono for another dps however, another pchrono has to swap for boon chrono to maintain uptimes, removing the advantage of running the other comp (because now you have 1 less dps). Slow uptime needs to be maintained for Danger Time, the one trait that makes pchrono a viable dps, and now also for Split Second. Danger Time is so busted that pchrono only needs somwhere under 20% slow uptime for Danger Time to perform at or better than the other two options. A [previous plea to address Danger Time](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/75199/danger-time), which would now be highly reasonable considering [the current performance of power mesmer builds](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/82828/pve-power-mes-unlisted-benchmarks) who can't make use of the trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xion.5694 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 For general purpose open world dungeons and fractals its not. It feels extremally clunky and slow in comparison to other professions/specializations. I'd said that power mirage is the only option that can muster decent dps and surability in general pve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtseJam.9784 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 > @"Xion.5694" said: > For general purpose open world dungeons and fractals its not. It feels extremally clunky and slow in comparison to other professions/specializations. > I'd said that power mirage is the only option that can muster decent dps and surability in general pve. > pretty much, recent nerf made it slooooow and survivability = 0. not worth trying right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calb.3128 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 > @"Xion.5694" said: > For general purpose open world dungeons and fractals its not. It feels extremally clunky and slow in comparison to other professions/specializations. > I'd said that power mirage is the only option that can muster decent dps and surability in general pve. > Even Mirage (though I don’t quite understand why) feels far more vulnerable in open world than it used to. I was about to switch back to Chrono to freshen things up... but I’m minded to just bench my Mesmer for a little while. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoeverxwins.1279 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 > @"calb.3128" said: > > @"Xion.5694" said: > > For general purpose open world dungeons and fractals its not. It feels extremally clunky and slow in comparison to other professions/specializations. > > I'd said that power mirage is the only option that can muster decent dps and surability in general pve. > > > Even Mirage (though I don’t quite understand why) feels far more vulnerable in open world than it used to. I was about to switch back to Chrono to freshen things up... but I’m minded to just bench my Mesmer for a little while. :/ For open world, I'm playing condi Mirage and love it. Certainly more than I did chronomancer, even before the nerf bat hit it. She's in (almost - getting last couple of pieces) full Viper gear and runs with axe/ torch and staff, and can really get in there and kill things quickly, usually without getting hit herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 When I played a little I did die a little more than I used to, but some of that could be I haven't played in a while and im rusty as chronomancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylden Ar.3724 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 > @"Axl.8924" said: > When I played a little I did die a little more than I used to, but some of that could be I haven't played in a while and im rusty as chronomancer. Chrono has taken a sustain hit from having to have clones to shatter. Less an issue in PvE where the AI usually doesn't target your clones specifically, but in WvW / PvP it's rendered the class all but useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engal.6359 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 For raids/fractals - its dps and support is fine Open world - anything works. For pvp - dont waste your time For wvw - it got even more dead than before #revertchrono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasla.9214 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 > @"whoeverxwins.1279" said: > > @"calb.3128" said: > > > @"Xion.5694" said: > > > For general purpose open world dungeons and fractals its not. It feels extremally clunky and slow in comparison to other professions/specializations. > > > I'd said that power mirage is the only option that can muster decent dps and surability in general pve. > > > > > Even Mirage (though I don’t quite understand why) feels far more vulnerable in open world than it used to. I was about to switch back to Chrono to freshen things up... but I’m minded to just bench my Mesmer for a little while. :/ > > For open world, I'm playing condi Mirage and love it. Certainly more than I did chronomancer, even before the nerf bat hit it. She's in (almost - getting last couple of pieces) full Viper gear and runs with axe/ torch and staff, and can really get in there and kill things quickly, usually without getting hit herself. What runes do you use? Nightmare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoeverxwins.1279 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 > @"hasla.9214" said: > > @"whoeverxwins.1279" said: > > > @"calb.3128" said: > > > > @"Xion.5694" said: > > > > For general purpose open world dungeons and fractals its not. It feels extremally clunky and slow in comparison to other professions/specializations. > > > > I'd said that power mirage is the only option that can muster decent dps and surability in general pve. > > > > > > > Even Mirage (though I don’t quite understand why) feels far more vulnerable in open world than it used to. I was about to switch back to Chrono to freshen things up... but I’m minded to just bench my Mesmer for a little while. :/ > > > > For open world, I'm playing condi Mirage and love it. Certainly more than I did chronomancer, even before the nerf bat hit it. She's in (almost - getting last couple of pieces) full Viper gear and runs with axe/ torch and staff, and can really get in there and kill things quickly, usually without getting hit herself. > > What runes do you use? Nightmare? Yes, using Nightmare runes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasla.9214 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 What is the best alternative until I have them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik.7560 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Strong on certain bosses and has higher potential and is more complicated than over powered face roll nonsense like dh and dd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 its worse in almost every aspect then other classes, but you can still play it, its just worse then competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim.4596 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Here are some logs from the ERP3 for reference about power chrono. https://mightyteapot.tv/logs/2019-08-25/Keep_Construct_success_17_21_44.html https://mightyteapot.tv/logs/2019-08-25/Slothasor_success_21_28_34.html https://mightyteapot.tv/logs/2019-08-24/Vale_Guardian_success_16_42_39.html https://mightyteapot.tv/logs/2019-08-25/Gorseval_the_Multifarious_success_19_25_37.html https://mightyteapot.tv/logs/2019-08-25/Sabetha_the_Saboteur_success_19_31_49.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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