Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 what the hell? everyone pls shush and realize how futile this convo about alpha males is. it has nothing to do with the op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > what the hell? everyone pls shush and realize how futile this convo about alpha males is. it has nothing to do with the op. Which is par for the course here when people can’t okay or are bored with playing. PvF is just.... normal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > what the hell? everyone pls shush and realize how futile this convo about alpha males is. it has nothing to do with the op. > > Which is par for the course here when people can’t okay or are bored with playing. > > PvF is just.... normal.. PvAM (Alpha male) OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > what the hell? everyone pls shush and realize how futile this convo about alpha males is. it has nothing to do with the op. > > Which is par for the course here when people can’t okay or are bored with playing. > > PvF is just.... normal.. any further discussion about alpha males will diminish your iq I say this as a friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 The Asura were talking about you. https://imgur.com/a/nyatt4M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > what the hell? everyone pls shush and realize how futile this convo about alpha males is. it has nothing to do with the op. > > > > Which is par for the course here when people can’t okay or are bored with playing. > > > > PvF is just.... normal.. > > any further discussion about alpha males will diminish your iq > I say this as a friend Notice at no point have I actually discussed that word. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 what is a commander? ^.................^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > Notice at no point have I actually discussed that word. ? lol woops, shouldn't have quoted you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > what the hell? everyone pls shush and realize how futile this convo about alpha males is. it has nothing to do with the op. > > Which is par for the course here when people can’t okay or are bored with playing. > > PvF is just.... normal.. well it was refreshing to have a friendly conversation rather than just crying at eachother over mundane and trivial arguements in a futile effort of self worth while simultaneously laying down belittling comments or bigotry. having a friendly thread in general is also a nice change of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YTKafka.4681 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 > @"Acheron.4731" said: > > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > > @"Acheron.4731" said: > > > Any body know what comp that was? > > > I saw commander then fb fb fb scoure scourge scourge > > > looks pretty solid > > > > Please... those three In the back are ele rev and the random bear bow. All three are out of position... > > lol > GET ON TAG WAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! You're too toxic I hate fight commanders. > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > what the hell? everyone pls shush and realize how futile this convo about alpha males is. it has nothing to do with the op. > > > > Which is par for the course here when people can’t okay or are bored with playing. > > > > PvF is just.... normal.. > > well it was refreshing to have a friendly conversation rather than just crying at eachother over mundane and trivial arguements in a futile effort of self worth while simultaneously laying down belittling comments or bigotry. > > having a friendly thread in general is also a nice change of pace. Boring right? Don't worry I'm trying to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 not sure why the turn of convo annoyed me so much. i'm probably pvf'ing too hard or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > not sure why the turn of convo annoyed me so much. i'm probably pvf'ing too hard or something. Probably because it had nothing to do with the image. (Nor does it have to do with lions either, but you can Google that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 So many interweebs points from a solitary link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVid Darksoul.4985 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > > > > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > > > the alpha wolf is likely not the one breaking trail > > > > > > jus sayin :-P > > > > > > > > > > Isn't the concept of Alpha wolf been debunked? > > > > > > > > how's debunked? > > > > > > Check out Adam Ruins Everything for Alpha Males. The concept of an Alpha Male was made up (with sources) > > > > what? > > > > > > was the term "alpha male" sexist or something? > > No its trying to make it socially politically incorrect to use the term alpha male by using a flawed study of some wolves in captivity long ago. > That same study ignores that many other mammals have alpha males. Prime example "LIONS",,,,, > > Saying it doesnt exist doesnt somehow make it go away. But we have become such a society that we can keep telling ourselves a lie thinking we can get everybody to then believe the lie and ignore the reality. It works mostly because of social conditioning started in pre school by femnazis, then constantly re-inforced. Seems they trying to create a nation of soy boys that can be brow beaten into submission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 > @"DaVid Darksoul.4985" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > > > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > > > > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > > > > > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > > > > the alpha wolf is likely not the one breaking trail > > > > > > > jus sayin :-P > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't the concept of Alpha wolf been debunked? > > > > > > > > > > how's debunked? > > > > > > > > Check out Adam Ruins Everything for Alpha Males. The concept of an Alpha Male was made up (with sources) > > > > > > what? > > > > > > > > > was the term "alpha male" sexist or something? > > > > No its trying to make it socially politically incorrect to use the term alpha male by using a flawed study of some wolves in captivity long ago. > > That same study ignores that many other mammals have alpha males. Prime example "LIONS",,,,, > > > > Saying it doesnt exist doesnt somehow make it go away. But we have become such a society that we can keep telling ourselves a lie thinking we can get everybody to then believe the lie and ignore the reality. > > It works mostly because of social conditioning started in pre school by femnazis, then constantly re-inforced. Seems they trying to create a nation of soy boys that can be brow beaten into submission Isaac Butterfield, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 leadership is not a myth =). alpha has nothing to do with this. those who try to lead exerts 3 x the effort than those who follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > leadership is not a myth =). alpha has nothing to do with this. those who try to lead exerts 3 x the effort than those who follow. telling people to do things isn't exactly strenuous activity tho lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XatraZaytrax.2601 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > leadership is not a myth =). alpha has nothing to do with this. those who try to lead exerts 3 x the effort than those who follow. > > telling people to do things isn't exactly strenuous activity tho lol Leadership is not only telling people what to do, but also getting them to do it. How you manage that is where the difficulty lies. You can get them to believe in you and your mission; give them enough or sufficient reward to do what you want them to do; pressure them to do it through fear, intimidation, and/or awe; or a combination of all of the above. All of these paths take constant work and effort. So agreed a commander does nothing alone, but an effective commander can get the best out of followers. Those standing shoulder to shoulder with the commander have bought into the commanders' mission, willing helping lead the charge. On a side note, I find it funny how people only mention an alpha male leadership style. As a woman, I have seen female alphas directing a group and it is no less threatening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > leadership is not a myth =). alpha has nothing to do with this. those who try to lead exerts 3 x the effort than those who follow. > > telling people to do things isn't exactly strenuous activity tho lol thats not leadership nor is that leading. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 > @"XatraZaytrax.2601" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > leadership is not a myth =). alpha has nothing to do with this. those who try to lead exerts 3 x the effort than those who follow. > > > > telling people to do things isn't exactly strenuous activity tho lol > > Leadership is not only telling people what to do, but also getting them to do it. How you manage that is where the difficulty lies. You can get them to believe in you and your mission; give them enough or sufficient reward to do what you want them to do; pressure them to do it through fear, intimidation, and/or awe; or a combination of all of the above. All of these paths take constant work and effort. > > So agreed a commander does nothing alone, but an effective commander can get the best out of followers. Those standing shoulder to shoulder with the commander have bought into the commanders' mission, willing helping lead the charge. > On a side note, I find it funny how people only mention an alpha male leadership style. As a woman, I have seen female alphas directing a group and it is no less threatening. yes, the element of being followed - the instructions and getting good results is important. yes, i didnt mention any sex in this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > leadership is not a myth =). alpha has nothing to do with this. those who try to lead exerts 3 x the effort than those who follow. > > > > telling people to do things isn't exactly strenuous activity tho lol > > thats not leadership nor is that leading. =) > sure it is, its just more polite ;} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyOrion.9506 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 > @"Zephyra.4709" said: > Ah yes, the path off a cliff in dbl and everyone falls to their death like lemmings. Love those moments. Reminds me of a few moments when Cloudfly would jump off third floor SMC...and everyone followed....lot of pancakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 > @"KeyOrion.9506" said: > > @"Zephyra.4709" said: > > Ah yes, the path off a cliff in dbl and everyone falls to their death like lemmings. Love those moments. > > Reminds me of a few moments when Cloudfly would jump off third floor SMC...and everyone followed....lot of pancakes. he wasnt a bad driver =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansau.7326 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 > @"XatraZaytrax.2601" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > > leadership is not a myth =). alpha has nothing to do with this. those who try to lead exerts 3 x the effort than those who follow. > > > > telling people to do things isn't exactly strenuous activity tho lol > > Leadership is not only telling people what to do, but also getting them to do it. How you manage that is where the difficulty lies. You can get them to believe in you and your mission; give them enough or sufficient reward to do what you want them to do; pressure them to do it through fear, intimidation, and/or awe; or a combination of all of the above. All of these paths take constant work and effort. > > So agreed a commander does nothing alone, but an effective commander can get the best out of followers. Those standing shoulder to shoulder with the commander have bought into the commanders' mission, willing helping lead the charge. > On a side note, I find it funny how people only mention an alpha male leadership style. As a woman, I have seen female alphas directing a group and it is no less threatening. Regarding male/female alphas, humans have been historically patriarch, hence alpha male is the most used. But there are animals which have alpha females, for example hyenas. They even have a structure where the lowest rank female tend to be above the highest ranked male. Anyway, the correlation between animal alphas and human leadership has always been very sketchy. In most cases, alphas act more like medieval kings/emperors rather than current leaders. They tend to avoid responsibilities or spending time orientating the rest of their team, but they are the first to claim food or sexual reproduction, spending the rest of their time making sure everybody else understands they have the biggest ego around. And the clearer example is this thread. OP was talking to the ignorance pugs tend to have regarding work and difficulty of commander's job, and yet the first answer was to relate it to alpha member concept, which has nothing to do with what OP was talking about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 > @"Sovereign.1093" said: > > @"KeyOrion.9506" said: > > > @"Zephyra.4709" said: > > > Ah yes, the path off a cliff in dbl and everyone falls to their death like lemmings. Love those moments. > > > > Reminds me of a few moments when Cloudfly would jump off third floor SMC...and everyone followed....lot of pancakes. > > > he wasnt a bad driver =) > No, but he was easily manipulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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