Ashantara.8731 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 > @"Neo Mortem.3627" said: > So, eight days left... We only know that Raven is the new mastery line but don't know what it does. We know the Boneskinner will more than likely be in the episode. What does it do? What sort of content is ANet hoping to release with the saga to generate hype that makes it so different than a season? I'll reserve my final judgment for the end of the saga/season. It's too early to tell any difference (if there is one). So let's wait and see. As for the hype, the prologue certainly didn't generate any, but perhaps the upcoming episode will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I have to admit, have moved to the don't hype train as well. It seems expectations can not be meet, so don't go there and people will be happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilkemia.8507 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Hype doesn't equal quality content. I'd rather have something enjoyable over hyping it up to be more than it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > Its a living world.. I'm not hyped sorry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Its more filler, more grinds, more currencies i don't want to chase, More specs to overpower the old ones, more mounts to make the old ones obsolete, more cash shop gems stuff and very little actual story.. Sorry if its negative but its how i feel about newer Guildwars 2 content. > > > > > > > > > > And I wouldn't be hyped for another raid, or a new fractal or some PvP map. That's how it works. I'm guessing there are more people playing Living World maps and enjoying them than there are raiding or PvPing (and perhaps raiding and PvPing). > > > > > > > > > > Sure not everyone is enthused with the living world, but for some people, that's their main game. > > > > > > > > Only because we are forced to go there due to currencies.. I doubt many would bother if those weren't there after the story. > > > > > @"Acheron.4731" said: > > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > Its a living world.. I'm not hyped sorry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Its more filler, more grinds, more currencies i don't want to chase, More specs to overpower the old ones, more mounts to make the old ones obsolete, more cash shop gems stuff and very little actual story.. Sorry if its negative but its how i feel about newer Guildwars 2 content. > > > > > > > > > > Agree. People always think more things are coming the 'next' episode or the 'next' saga but ANET seems to have established that nothing new or great is coming ANYTIME soon. I think people are settling for an under-performing game right now. > > > > > I actually miss the old ANET up to HoT...even though it seemed like a dumpster fire at times...it was far better then than it is now. Same ol same ol. > > > > > > > > Agreed its a large dose of becareful what you wish for imo.. Sure new content is great but the way Anet sets it up to be yet another epic korean style grind is not what i look forward too.. Its not why i started playing Guildwars, i joined Guildwars to actually avoid the standard mmo trope.. Now its literally becoming WoW with a different skin. > > > > > > > > > > Well, I don't know that that's true. You're certainly not forced to do anything in Grothmar, but it's busy all the time. I think there are far more achievement point hunters out there, and people who play open world content than you think. In fact, I'd wager that rewards being equal, far more people would play open world than raiding or PvP and maybe both combined. > > > > > > Saying we're only doing it for rewards is like saying everyone is only raiding for legendary armor. Some people only raid because they want legendary armor, that's true. But it's not most of the raiding community I think. > > > > If your on a good raid team you clear the raids monday and then wait for next monday if raiding is all you did. > > So ofcourse open world will have more people playing it you can do it solo all day everyday. > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > Its a living world.. I'm not hyped sorry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Its more filler, more grinds, more currencies i don't want to chase, More specs to overpower the old ones, more mounts to make the old ones obsolete, more cash shop gems stuff and very little actual story.. Sorry if its negative but its how i feel about newer Guildwars 2 content. > > > > > > > > > > And I wouldn't be hyped for another raid, or a new fractal or some PvP map. That's how it works. I'm guessing there are more people playing Living World maps and enjoying them than there are raiding or PvPing (and perhaps raiding and PvPing). > > > > > > > > > > Sure not everyone is enthused with the living world, but for some people, that's their main game. > > > > > > > > Only because we are forced to go there due to currencies.. I doubt many would bother if those weren't there after the story. > > > > > @"Acheron.4731" said: > > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > Its a living world.. I'm not hyped sorry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Its more filler, more grinds, more currencies i don't want to chase, More specs to overpower the old ones, more mounts to make the old ones obsolete, more cash shop gems stuff and very little actual story.. Sorry if its negative but its how i feel about newer Guildwars 2 content. > > > > > > > > > > Agree. People always think more things are coming the 'next' episode or the 'next' saga but ANET seems to have established that nothing new or great is coming ANYTIME soon. I think people are settling for an under-performing game right now. > > > > > I actually miss the old ANET up to HoT...even though it seemed like a dumpster fire at times...it was far better then than it is now. Same ol same ol. > > > > > > > > Agreed its a large dose of becareful what you wish for imo.. Sure new content is great but the way Anet sets it up to be yet another epic korean style grind is not what i look forward too.. Its not why i started playing Guildwars, i joined Guildwars to actually avoid the standard mmo trope.. Now its literally becoming WoW with a different skin. > > > > > > > > > > Well, I don't know that that's true. You're certainly not forced to do anything in Grothmar, but it's busy all the time. I think there are far more achievement point hunters out there, and people who play open world content than you think. In fact, I'd wager that rewards being equal, far more people would play open world than raiding or PvP and maybe both combined. > > > > > > Saying we're only doing it for rewards is like saying everyone is only raiding for legendary armor. Some people only raid because they want legendary armor, that's true. But it's not most of the raiding community I think. > > > > If your on a good raid team you clear the raids monday and then wait for next monday if raiding is all you did. > > So ofcourse open world will have more people playing it you can do it solo all day everyday. > > I bet you more people play the open world that never consider raiding than have EVER raided in this game put together. I don't know why raiders think they have such a large percentage of the playerbase raiding. If that were true, that's what Anet would have focused on. Well good for both of us that I said nothing of the sort then aint it? If you can play something all day every day solo and another thing once a week but need 9 other people, witch one will have more players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos.2503 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 So far, the only immediate distinction I saw to the usual format of living story is two masteries, rather than one. I'm not impressed, so I'm hoping the writing is spot on at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Mortem.3627 Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 Now that the trailer has dropped, I'm a bit more hyped than when I started this thread. I'm surprised that they actually released the trailer a week before launch, but now that we have it... I have so many questions concerning the lore/story now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Why surprised about when the trailer was released; it's the usual format. The reason the Prologue trailer was released same day was that it included 'Live Now!' (I suspect to tie in with the concert being 'live'.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XatraZaytrax.2601 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 > @"Jethro.9376" said: > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > Its a living world.. I'm not hyped sorry.. > > But is it even a Living World anymore? The last time the world really changed was when Mordemoths veins destroyed the waypoints. > Everything is instanced/contained in a single map nowadays. > > That's because of the new and cry over missing something because people were on a break or new players. I personally miss those changes. Sure I missed a couple, but they made the world more exciting. In the real world there are many times I have gone home to my city of birth and said "was there a (insert structure) there" I miss that in GW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayne.8563 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > > Its a living world.. I'm not hyped sorry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its more filler, more grinds, more currencies i don't want to chase, More specs to overpower the old ones, more mounts to make the old ones obsolete, more cash shop gems stuff and very little actual story.. Sorry if its negative but its how i feel about newer Guildwars 2 content. > > > > > > > > > > > > And I wouldn't be hyped for another raid, or a new fractal or some PvP map. That's how it works. I'm guessing there are more people playing Living World maps and enjoying them than there are raiding or PvPing (and perhaps raiding and PvPing). > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure not everyone is enthused with the living world, but for some people, that's their main game. > > > > > > > > > > Only because we are forced to go there due to currencies.. I doubt many would bother if those weren't there after the story. > > > > > > @"Acheron.4731" said: > > > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > > Its a living world.. I'm not hyped sorry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its more filler, more grinds, more currencies i don't want to chase, More specs to overpower the old ones, more mounts to make the old ones obsolete, more cash shop gems stuff and very little actual story.. Sorry if its negative but its how i feel about newer Guildwars 2 content. > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree. People always think more things are coming the 'next' episode or the 'next' saga but ANET seems to have established that nothing new or great is coming ANYTIME soon. I think people are settling for an under-performing game right now. > > > > > > I actually miss the old ANET up to HoT...even though it seemed like a dumpster fire at times...it was far better then than it is now. Same ol same ol. > > > > > > > > > > Agreed its a large dose of becareful what you wish for imo.. Sure new content is great but the way Anet sets it up to be yet another epic korean style grind is not what i look forward too.. Its not why i started playing Guildwars, i joined Guildwars to actually avoid the standard mmo trope.. Now its literally becoming WoW with a different skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I don't know that that's true. You're certainly not forced to do anything in Grothmar, but it's busy all the time. I think there are far more achievement point hunters out there, and people who play open world content than you think. In fact, I'd wager that rewards being equal, far more people would play open world than raiding or PvP and maybe both combined. > > > > > > > > Saying we're only doing it for rewards is like saying everyone is only raiding for legendary armor. Some people only raid because they want legendary armor, that's true. But it's not most of the raiding community I think. > > > > > > If your on a good raid team you clear the raids monday and then wait for next monday if raiding is all you did. > > > So ofcourse open world will have more people playing it you can do it solo all day everyday. > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > @"Vayne.8563" said: > > > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > > Its a living world.. I'm not hyped sorry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its more filler, more grinds, more currencies i don't want to chase, More specs to overpower the old ones, more mounts to make the old ones obsolete, more cash shop gems stuff and very little actual story.. Sorry if its negative but its how i feel about newer Guildwars 2 content. > > > > > > > > > > > > And I wouldn't be hyped for another raid, or a new fractal or some PvP map. That's how it works. I'm guessing there are more people playing Living World maps and enjoying them than there are raiding or PvPing (and perhaps raiding and PvPing). > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure not everyone is enthused with the living world, but for some people, that's their main game. > > > > > > > > > > Only because we are forced to go there due to currencies.. I doubt many would bother if those weren't there after the story. > > > > > > @"Acheron.4731" said: > > > > > > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > > > > > > Its a living world.. I'm not hyped sorry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its more filler, more grinds, more currencies i don't want to chase, More specs to overpower the old ones, more mounts to make the old ones obsolete, more cash shop gems stuff and very little actual story.. Sorry if its negative but its how i feel about newer Guildwars 2 content. > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree. People always think more things are coming the 'next' episode or the 'next' saga but ANET seems to have established that nothing new or great is coming ANYTIME soon. I think people are settling for an under-performing game right now. > > > > > > I actually miss the old ANET up to HoT...even though it seemed like a dumpster fire at times...it was far better then than it is now. Same ol same ol. > > > > > > > > > > Agreed its a large dose of becareful what you wish for imo.. Sure new content is great but the way Anet sets it up to be yet another epic korean style grind is not what i look forward too.. Its not why i started playing Guildwars, i joined Guildwars to actually avoid the standard mmo trope.. Now its literally becoming WoW with a different skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I don't know that that's true. You're certainly not forced to do anything in Grothmar, but it's busy all the time. I think there are far more achievement point hunters out there, and people who play open world content than you think. In fact, I'd wager that rewards being equal, far more people would play open world than raiding or PvP and maybe both combined. > > > > > > > > Saying we're only doing it for rewards is like saying everyone is only raiding for legendary armor. Some people only raid because they want legendary armor, that's true. But it's not most of the raiding community I think. > > > > > > If your on a good raid team you clear the raids monday and then wait for next monday if raiding is all you did. > > > So ofcourse open world will have more people playing it you can do it solo all day everyday. > > > > I bet you more people play the open world that never consider raiding than have EVER raided in this game put together. I don't know why raiders think they have such a large percentage of the playerbase raiding. If that were true, that's what Anet would have focused on. > > Well good for both of us that I said nothing of the sort then aint it? > > If you can play something all day every day solo and another thing once a week but need 9 other people, witch one will have more players? I'm talking about the percentage of the player base that not only doesn't raid but never will raid. You seem to be laboring under the assumption that Anet can't figure out how many people are actually raiding every week and how many people are just playing living world. I'm saying far fewer people raid period end stop than play living story period end stop, if you ignore the crossover. If everyone in the game was raiding there would be more raids. But that's just not the case. Only a small percentage of the playerbase raids. A larger percentage of the playerbase plays living world stuff. That's my theory anyway, but I'm pretty sure it's a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcore.5621 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hype ? For what ? A map u Play for some haours and than never come back to it again lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Mortem.3627 Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > Why surprised about when the trailer was released; it's the usual format. > The reason the Prologue trailer was released same day was that it included 'Live Now!' (I suspect to tie in with the concert being 'live'.) That's a terrible reason, honestly. Why watch a trailer when you can just play the patch instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince.1695 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I'm only hyped for the next drama be it "special" prices for new stuff like build templates, the next communication failure or future layoffs. So, I guess I'll have to wait a little bit longer than next Tuesday but I know Arenanet won't disappoint me later on. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgs.6103 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I stopped caring about the story during that time they let Charr characters take the Shining Blade oath. I only do the stories just to unlock the reward tracks for WvW or if I like a shiny gated by an achievement. I do look forward to new fractals or raids. Strike Missions are meh judging from the first one. So not hyped at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenmonster.3621 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 > @"Dante.1508" said: > korean style grind... Thanks for the laugh. >@several > raids raids raids Five players raid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 > @"Neo Mortem.3627" said: Hype about Sage ? Why we need it? And why it should be?? May be for more players, as for me also, the priority fisrt craft ALL legendary weapons and raid/wvw leg set and etc. get good time on spvp and do some achivments )) Elite specs ? Who need it? Only 5 hypers who don't try existing all 18 specs? Why we should worry about it? For people who play the current count of elite spec is more than enought. >Raven mastery ok, we wil get it and get 295+x. Nice, but why it hype?? >We all know that was a mistake. No, we all don't know about what mistake you talk. I close ALL achivment exept very strange collection (magic uselees mask coast 10k gold each, for collection you need 3). So exept strange collection I like it. IF you talk about that mistake in collection I think they add accbound item in pvp/wvw track, so relax and get fun. >no fractal How I see about new fractal more talk people who don't close all existing. As for me keep words about fractal can only 200kp+ from cm100 palyers but not begginers. You not registred at https://killproof.me/ so for me not so easy understand like you fractal or not .. But how I see about new fractal mostly talk T1 players ))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Mortem.3627 Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 > @"lare.5129" said: > > @"Neo Mortem.3627" said: > Hype about Sage ? Why we need it? And why it should be?? > May be for more players, as for me also, the priority fisrt craft ALL legendary weapons and raid/wvw leg set and etc. get good time on spvp and do some achivments )) > > Elite specs ? Who need it? Only 5 hypers who don't try existing all 18 specs? Why we should worry about it? For people who play the current count of elite spec is more than enought. > > >Raven mastery > ok, we wil get it and get 295+x. Nice, but why it hype?? > > >We all know that was a mistake. > No, we all don't know about what mistake you talk. > > I close ALL achivment exept very strange collection (magic uselees mask coast 10k gold each, for collection you need 3). So exept strange collection I like it. IF you talk about that mistake in collection I think they add accbound item in pvp/wvw track, so relax and get fun. > > >no fractal > How I see about new fractal more talk people who don't close all existing. > As for me keep words about fractal can only 200kp+ from cm100 palyers but not begginers. You not registred at https://killproof.me/ so for me not so easy understand like you fractal or not .. But how I see about new fractal mostly talk T1 players ))) Sorry, but I can't understand what you're saying at all. It also seems like you didn't understand what I was saying or didn't really read my post and just cherry-picked single words. A lot of players don't need new elite specs, we want them to provide new combat experiences. The mistake I was referring to clearly was ANet's mistake for releasing the trailer for the prologue the same day as the patch. Nobody cared about the trailer. As for the other stuff, I can't understand what you're trying to say. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 > @"thepenmonster.3621" said: > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > korean style grind... > > Thanks for the laugh. > > >@several > > raids raids raids > > Five players raid. > It wasn't at release but over time its definitely getting on par with it.. I used to play them, i quit mmos with excessive grind GW2 is very much fitting into their ball park. That new spec design doesn't instill me with hype.. Team based content in living stories is not great, it works the first few weeks then as people leave the maps die because no one can complete anything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenmonster.3621 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 > @"Dante.1508" said: > I used to play them, i quit mmos with excessive grind GW2 is very much fitting into their ball park. Me too, and not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1508 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 > @"thepenmonster.3621" said: > > @"Dante.1508" said: > > I used to play them, i quit mmos with excessive grind GW2 is very much fitting into their ball park. > > Me too, and not even close. I disagree completely, GW2 has very much lost the plot in its release core design and values. Hence why the Hype evaporated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Hype for what?! A new map? Mastery that does not seem relevant or useful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenmonster.3621 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 > @"Dante.1508" said: > I disagree completely I'll happily take your stuff when you finally quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 > @"Dante.1508" said: > It wasn't at release but over time its definitely getting on par with it.. I used to play them, i quit mmos with excessive grind GW2 is very much fitting into their ball park. That new spec design doesn't instill me with hype.. Team based content in living stories is not great, it works the first few weeks then as people leave the maps die because no one can complete anything.. at fisrt this is scalable in both side second this is GUILDwars2, so you need find normal Guild, where have notes what old content that do, what day and time. In normal day mostly each day some group do some old event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornwolf.9721 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 There aren't even E-specs. The map looks solid, the tone is good but there isn't much meat when it comes to new goodies~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro.9376 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 > @"Thornwolf.9721" said: > There aren't even E-specs. The map looks solid, the tone is good but there isn't much meat when it comes to new goodies~ I'd say that's because of the "staggered" release. I think we're not even getting many features besides the "big map" with a new meta that gets released piece by pice like dry top/SW.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry.5713 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Yet another new map I will go to once or twice, masteries which I will only bother with for the sake of reaching the max level (again), new features and mechnics... but unique to the map which I will not go to after as I already said. None of this speaks to me and a lot of players like me. Coming back to your question about the lack of hype. The only way to get most of the community excited about an update all at once would be another expansion with loads of features and content for everyone. There will rarely be much hype otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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