Rickster.8752 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Nothing dies because these classes can just heal/cleanse everything. Meanwhile you nerfed all the boon removal so they now have perma boons again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiilimon.6094 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Focus target the healers, time ccs to mess up their plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster.8752 Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 > @"Tiilimon.6094" said: > Focus target the healers, time ccs to mess up their plans. I mean you can, but ele is absurdly too strong currently as having so much healing is now better due to corrupts/boon removal being gutted. It needs a fat nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrownyClown.8402 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Wait for the meta to settle. Spellbreaker and mesmer got their boon removal buffed if I remember correctly. If its condi meta than yea they prob could over perform if combined in a team fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alain.1659 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Guard has lost a considerable amount of its healing and boons, on top of the amulet changes. Ele seems strong because it is a good bunker + healer and it will shine in in the beginning of the meta in my opinion. It can give a good amount of offensive boons, burst and dedicated heal pretty well. But like FrownyClown.8402 said it might change when people try to find a counter to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollingDemigod.3041 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 > @"Tiilimon.6094" said: > Focus target the healers, time ccs to mess up their plans. Now now, calm your horses right there, we don't use such advanced techniques in PvP. Usual tactic "I faceroll on keyboard, you die" should be enough to fix that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I fought a few eles, and they were a pain in the butt to kill, but they didn't have much pressure themselves. I started focusing them down with poison. Elixir gun 3, Pistol 2, Mortar 2, Nade 5... they died quickly after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies.7462 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 > @"alain.1659" said: > Guard has lost a considerable amount of its healing and boons, on top of the amulet changes. Ele seems strong because it is a good bunker + healer and it will shine in in the beginning of the meta in my opinion. It can give a good amount of offensive boons, burst and dedicated heal pretty well. But like FrownyClown.8402 said it might change when people try to find a counter to it. > > I wish I had recorded my last match. 2 Firebrands have literal 100% boon uptimes on almost everything, and 60% Resistance uptimes, even with me and my friend as a duo-Corruption-Necromancer setup. The fact that they nerfed Corruption so hard, even though it wasn't particularly powerful to begin with, is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar.4257 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 > @"Pies.7462" said: > > @"alain.1659" said: > > Guard has lost a considerable amount of its healing and boons, on top of the amulet changes. Ele seems strong because it is a good bunker + healer and it will shine in in the beginning of the meta in my opinion. It can give a good amount of offensive boons, burst and dedicated heal pretty well. But like FrownyClown.8402 said it might change when people try to find a counter to it. > > > > > > I wish I had recorded my last match. 2 Firebrands have literal 100% boon uptimes on almost everything, and 60% Resistance uptimes, even with me and my friend as a duo-Corruption-Necromancer setup. The fact that they nerfed Corruption so hard, even though it wasn't particularly powerful to begin with, is insane. I wish you'd recorded it too. So you'd realise you're talking nonsense. 60% resistance uptime? On FB? The class that gets 3s every 75s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar.4257 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 > @"Rickster.8752" said: > Nothing dies because these classes can just heal/cleanse everything. Meanwhile you nerfed all the boon removal so they now have perma boons again. > > You mean like Stability? The boon that got reduced to 1s duration on both Tome and Mantra? Perma what? Actually pay attention, having all boons for 3s =/= "perma". I guess necro has "perma" shroud too right.... because for the 3 seconds I was paying attention it was "perma" in shroud for those 3 seconds. If you actually read patch-notes for classes other than your own, you'd realise that boon-application got nerfed in-line with boon-removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 This is a team game 5v5 sitchuations. With this level of team play you need to coordinate your dpsers,cc skills, and imobalizes, as much as possible to secure a kill. Just because there's is solo q doesn't mean you are 1v5ing. #hashtag:make-a-in-game-voice-chat!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alin.2468 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > This is a team game 5v5 sitchuations. With this level of team play you need to coordinate your dpsers,cc skills, and imobalizes, as much as possible to secure a kill. Just because there's is solo q doesn't mean you are 1v5ing. > #hashtag:make-a-in-game-voice-chat!! So... now we do not have enough voice chat software like Teamspeak and Discord? You really think an in-game voice chat would make randoms actually use it? You really think bots will respond? Maybe (just maybe) SoloQ was a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 > @"Alin.2468" said: > > @"Eddbopkins.2630" said: > > This is a team game 5v5 sitchuations. With this level of team play you need to coordinate your dpsers,cc skills, and imobalizes, as much as possible to secure a kill. Just because there's is solo q doesn't mean you are 1v5ing. > > #hashtag:make-a-in-game-voice-chat!! > > So... now we do not have enough voice chat software like Teamspeak and Discord? You really think an in-game voice chat would make randoms actually use it? You really think bots will respond? Maybe (just maybe) SoloQ was a bad idea. Yeah that's how it works in most games when voice is built in. Anything from shooters to mobas, etc. etc. In fact, a lot of people prefer when their teammates are able to talk as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crepuscular.9047 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Winds of Disenchantment meta here we come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies.7462 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > @"Pies.7462" said: > > > @"alain.1659" said: > > > Guard has lost a considerable amount of its healing and boons, on top of the amulet changes. Ele seems strong because it is a good bunker + healer and it will shine in in the beginning of the meta in my opinion. It can give a good amount of offensive boons, burst and dedicated heal pretty well. But like FrownyClown.8402 said it might change when people try to find a counter to it. > > > > > > > > > > I wish I had recorded my last match. 2 Firebrands have literal 100% boon uptimes on almost everything, and 60% Resistance uptimes, even with me and my friend as a duo-Corruption-Necromancer setup. The fact that they nerfed Corruption so hard, even though it wasn't particularly powerful to begin with, is insane. > > I wish you'd recorded it too. > > So you'd realise you're talking nonsense. > > 60% resistance uptime? On FB? The class that gets 3s every 75s? 3s every 75s? Are you actually outside of your own mind? An average FB with combo finishers and sigils can have enough Resistance uptime to literally negate any form of CC a vanilla or Spectre Necro can output, and this is beyond the Aegis and Blind spam they output. Clearly you're either watching low-Bronze games, or have no idea how often those boons are actually applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar.4257 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Pies.7462" said: > > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > > @"Pies.7462" said: > > > > @"alain.1659" said: > > > > Guard has lost a considerable amount of its healing and boons, on top of the amulet changes. Ele seems strong because it is a good bunker + healer and it will shine in in the beginning of the meta in my opinion. It can give a good amount of offensive boons, burst and dedicated heal pretty well. But like FrownyClown.8402 said it might change when people try to find a counter to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish I had recorded my last match. 2 Firebrands have literal 100% boon uptimes on almost everything, and 60% Resistance uptimes, even with me and my friend as a duo-Corruption-Necromancer setup. The fact that they nerfed Corruption so hard, even though it wasn't particularly powerful to begin with, is insane. > > > > I wish you'd recorded it too. > > > > So you'd realise you're talking nonsense. > > > > 60% resistance uptime? On FB? The class that gets 3s every 75s? > > 3s every 75s? Are you actually outside of your own mind? An average FB with combo finishers and sigils can have enough Resistance uptime to literally negate any form of CC a vanilla or Spectre Necro can output, and this is beyond the Aegis and Blind spam they output. Clearly you're either watching low-Bronze games, or have no idea how often those boons are actually applied. People who think you can get Resistance from sigils and combo finishers. These are the people who are commenting on the forums. This is a cesspit of stupidity. Or really bad trolling. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Resistance Just read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erzian.5218 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I know something that applies ridiculous amounts of resistance :) it‘s called revenant. The incarnation of balance and fun that is close to making ranger unplayable in 2v2s as it has so much aoe condition spam that pets randomly in seconds and even while they are alive, they don’t do anything because revs also spam aoe cc . It’s funny though because people on the forums are so focused on hating the 3rd and to some extend 2nd best class (necro and fb, a comp that is actually beatable without fb/nec as it has little damage) that nobody even talks about what is the most broken build by far (condi rev) or perhaps people have have never faced a decent due to their low rating. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne.6253 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I can speak about this 2 classes because i play both... Guardian FB and DH are really OP but ELE not. Specially weaver, ele is the class with the low base health, in cloth that must fight melee, it's right to have some heal and evade if not should be a suicide. infact I don't see so much ele, but tons of FB, Necro and Rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Fake topic ?or hype? Because I always try play only top and meta. And very sad from my support fb. It is totally nerfed and I looking something new , and don't have plan play on it after nerf. Don't already check ele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannelore.8153 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Ele: h Forum-goers: Nerf, nerf! Nerf this into the ground! Nerf this kitten into the next dimension! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Rickster.8752" said: > Nothing dies because these classes can just heal/cleanse everything. Meanwhile you nerfed all the boon removal so they now have perma boons again. > > +1 Elementalist Profession Identity Crisis Continues.... https://wiki-en.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elementalist https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Elementalist **ELEMENTALIST PROFESSION ROLE ARE NOT GUARDIAN PROFESSION SUPPORT ROLE!!!!** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne.6253 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 yeah now Ele is the OP class ROFL, some necro users are trying to move the attention from other classes to avoid the imminent nerf. :disappointed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster.8752 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Wayne.6253" said: > yeah now Ele is the OP class ROFL, some necro users are trying to move the attention from other classes to avoid the imminent nerf. :disappointed: lol I hope bunker power necro with their lame shroud camping gets nerfed too. Then I can roll them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > @"Pies.7462" said: > > > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > > > @"Pies.7462" said: > > > > > @"alain.1659" said: > > > > > Guard has lost a considerable amount of its healing and boons, on top of the amulet changes. Ele seems strong because it is a good bunker + healer and it will shine in in the beginning of the meta in my opinion. It can give a good amount of offensive boons, burst and dedicated heal pretty well. But like FrownyClown.8402 said it might change when people try to find a counter to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish I had recorded my last match. 2 Firebrands have literal 100% boon uptimes on almost everything, and 60% Resistance uptimes, even with me and my friend as a duo-Corruption-Necromancer setup. The fact that they nerfed Corruption so hard, even though it wasn't particularly powerful to begin with, is insane. > > > > > > I wish you'd recorded it too. > > > > > > So you'd realise you're talking nonsense. > > > > > > 60% resistance uptime? On FB? The class that gets 3s every 75s? > > > > 3s every 75s? Are you actually outside of your own mind? An average FB with combo finishers and sigils can have enough Resistance uptime to literally negate any form of CC a vanilla or Spectre Necro can output, and this is beyond the Aegis and Blind spam they output. Clearly you're either watching low-Bronze games, or have no idea how often those boons are actually applied. > > People who think you can get Resistance from sigils and combo finishers. > > These are the people who are commenting on the forums. > > This is a cesspit of stupidity. Or really bad trolling. > > https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Resistance > > Just read this. Sadly, the forum thief/war/insert other one shot pre patch build ---mains are on a witch hunt since they can't insta kill someone anymore. Poor them. Ragnar, for the record, been playing a slightly modified build that you developed for the past 3 seasons ---- even before it became "meta". Sadly there is not much that can be done when dealing with misinformed players - no matter how many facts you show them, they won't stop until they can get their 1 button OP class back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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