MetalGirl.2370

> @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > > > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > > > > > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > > > > > > > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > > > > > > I still ask myself why I even bother playing the game.

> > > > > > > > The only reason I haven't left is cuz I'm over 14k hours in with 39k AP. Too much time and money went into it that now it's too late to leave.

> > > > > > > > You summed it all up pretty nicely and Anet doesn't even play their game in their off time to understand anything people say. It's absurd that you need 2h to finish meta and open the vault, unless you just decide to buy keys (but that just encourages irl money spending, as you're not playing the game to earn gold but convert gems to play - but maybe that's what Anet wants)

> > > > > > > > They have no regard for people who work, most have families, so if you worked and had 3-4 hours after work, you'd spend most of it with your family, which leaves little to no time for actual game. And there's a lot that one might want to do, but here they are doing single meta that takes 2 hours to do... for reward that's pretty much nothing considering the time that went into it. Another problem is that it has 20-30mins between each event, so if you're like me and you have everything done, you can do daily in between 2 of them but then that leaves you with break between other metas which they're so short that you don't have time to start anything else to kill time. So you're either just going to give up and go play something else in the game, something else entirely or just AFK-ing most of the 2h.

> > > > > > > > I even told my bf, I feel like GW2 became an "idle/clicker" game for people who have done everything - you come in, you afk 15-30min, click and press buttons for 5min, then afk for another 15-30min.

> > > > > > > > I wonder if next major patch will bring "moves a day thing" as well, so once we spend our 100 clicks, we either wait 1h or pay 400 gems. (I feel like I just gave them an awesome idea)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You make it as if players can’t earn gold from playing the game and use that to purchase the keys. It doesn’t encourage people to buy gems more than anything else in the game. It’s no different than people spending two hours doing world bosses. The metas are spread out enough that you can do other things in between them. You have high playtime hours and high AP so clearly the two hours isn’t the real issue for you. If it is, just spend ~30 min and farm the gold for the keys. I’m sure that earning 4.6G in less than two hours is manageable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Then what is the point in Anet making updates if I go elsewhere to earn money in order to do them? I thought new updates are there to be played, how dare I tell Anet to make it less annoying to play a game I paid for and poured 7 years of my life in. Interesting how they finally added some content and people are supposed to go do something else to earn money in order to do current content faster instead of Anet just coming to their senses and realizing that people have work, families and other games to play.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then do the metas. The option to farm gold to purchase the keys is available to those who don’t want to do them which you appeared to fall under based on your post. The metas take no more time to do than your typical meta (5-10 min).

> > > > >

> > > > > > But I think, above all, that I should try and get myself off of forums eventually because everybody here just defends them with their lives as if Anet is just divine. (which never works cuz it's a weird feeling of "Let's go see how people are defending them today" and once I do I regret it cuz I'm left angered and in disbelief)

> > > > >

> > > > > There’s a difference between defending Anet and defending something particular in the game. They can be mutually exclusive.

> > > >

> > > > I am doing events, but I can still dislike the whole design of it. Cuz I'm not going to waste gold and then have to do some mindless farming more than I do already.

> > > >

> > >

> > > You can certainly dislike them but there are options and they’re not as time consuming as they’re being made out to be.

> > >

> > > > And I'll just give an example, latest thing we were angry about is the whole theater thing. People were mad, Rubi came and said something about people attacking them, the anger immediately died down.... now.... fast foward, patch day ... if you read little blue text for Merchandise Collector achievement, it literally says something about going to Bangar's Rally and all we got is merch....

> > > > hmmmm..... does is not ring a bell ?

> > > > People were mostly angry about the whole merch ad at their thing.... and their theater thing could be like "a rally"... so what I'm saying is, here are people being mad at Anet for false hype and 30min for merch sales, and they're having a laugh about it to the point of literally making a mock achievement ....

> > > > They DON'T care. But people still defend them...

> > >

> > > That example is one fairly large leap.

> > >

> > > Just because they don’t do what YOU want them to do does not mean that they don’t care about the game.

> >

> > That was an example of how people forget how they were mad at Anet. And of how Anet still mocks anything we're mad about, I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors in that building. I'm saying they don't care about what people want, think or say, if they cared, they'd not go on and make achievement to mock what we were mad at them for.

>

> This is an example of reading way into things and making connections where there are none.

>

> It seems like you’re upset that the meta reward structure isn’t the way that you want it and you’re now inventing things to justify that claim.

Yeah sure, no connections...

what a coincidence it's called Merchandise Collector, with word "rally" to imply theater, and how all we got is merch, which is what people were mad at them for, for hyping it just to give us merch ads...

and what a coincidence it's also an achievement in an episode that's right after the whole situation.

> @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > > > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > > > > > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > > > > I still ask myself why I even bother playing the game.

> > > > > > The only reason I haven't left is cuz I'm over 14k hours in with 39k AP. Too much time and money went into it that now it's too late to leave.

> > > > > > You summed it all up pretty nicely and Anet doesn't even play their game in their off time to understand anything people say. It's absurd that you need 2h to finish meta and open the vault, unless you just decide to buy keys (but that just encourages irl money spending, as you're not playing the game to earn gold but convert gems to play - but maybe that's what Anet wants)

> > > > > > They have no regard for people who work, most have families, so if you worked and had 3-4 hours after work, you'd spend most of it with your family, which leaves little to no time for actual game. And there's a lot that one might want to do, but here they are doing single meta that takes 2 hours to do... for reward that's pretty much nothing considering the time that went into it. Another problem is that it has 20-30mins between each event, so if you're like me and you have everything done, you can do daily in between 2 of them but then that leaves you with break between other metas which they're so short that you don't have time to start anything else to kill time. So you're either just going to give up and go play something else in the game, something else entirely or just AFK-ing most of the 2h.

> > > > > > I even told my bf, I feel like GW2 became an "idle/clicker" game for people who have done everything - you come in, you afk 15-30min, click and press buttons for 5min, then afk for another 15-30min.

> > > > > > I wonder if next major patch will bring "moves a day thing" as well, so once we spend our 100 clicks, we either wait 1h or pay 400 gems. (I feel like I just gave them an awesome idea)

> > > > >

> > > > > You make it as if players can’t earn gold from playing the game and use that to purchase the keys. It doesn’t encourage people to buy gems more than anything else in the game. It’s no different than people spending two hours doing world bosses. The metas are spread out enough that you can do other things in between them. You have high playtime hours and high AP so clearly the two hours isn’t the real issue for you. If it is, just spend ~30 min and farm the gold for the keys. I’m sure that earning 4.6G in less than two hours is manageable.

> > > >

> > > > Then what is the point in Anet making updates if I go elsewhere to earn money in order to do them? I thought new updates are there to be played, how dare I tell Anet to make it less annoying to play a game I paid for and poured 7 years of my life in. Interesting how they finally added some content and people are supposed to go do something else to earn money in order to do current content faster instead of Anet just coming to their senses and realizing that people have work, families and other games to play.

> > >

> > > Then do the metas. The option to farm gold to purchase the keys is available to those who don’t want to do them which you appeared to fall under based on your post. The metas take no more time to do than your typical meta (5-10 min).

> > >

> > > > But I think, above all, that I should try and get myself off of forums eventually because everybody here just defends them with their lives as if Anet is just divine. (which never works cuz it's a weird feeling of "Let's go see how people are defending them today" and once I do I regret it cuz I'm left angered and in disbelief)

> > >

> > > There’s a difference between defending Anet and defending something particular in the game. They can be mutually exclusive.

> >

> > I am doing events, but I can still dislike the whole design of it. Cuz I'm not going to waste gold and then have to do some mindless farming more than I do already.

> >

>

> You can certainly dislike them but there are options and they’re not as time consuming as they’re being made out to be.

>

> > And I'll just give an example, latest thing we were angry about is the whole theater thing. People were mad, Rubi came and said something about people attacking them, the anger immediately died down.... now.... fast foward, patch day ... if you read little blue text for Merchandise Collector achievement, it literally says something about going to Bangar's Rally and all we got is merch....

> > hmmmm..... does is not ring a bell ?

> > People were mostly angry about the whole merch ad at their thing.... and their theater thing could be like "a rally"... so what I'm saying is, here are people being mad at Anet for false hype and 30min for merch sales, and they're having a laugh about it to the point of literally making a mock achievement ....

> > They DON'T care. But people still defend them...

>

> That example is one fairly large leap.

>

> Just because they don’t do what YOU want them to do does not mean that they don’t care about the game.

That was an example of how people forget how they were mad at Anet. And of how Anet still mocks anything we're mad about, I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors in that building. I'm saying they don't care about what people want, think or say, if they cared, they'd not go on and make achievement to mock what we were mad at them for.

> @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > > > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > > I still ask myself why I even bother playing the game.

> > > > The only reason I haven't left is cuz I'm over 14k hours in with 39k AP. Too much time and money went into it that now it's too late to leave.

> > > > You summed it all up pretty nicely and Anet doesn't even play their game in their off time to understand anything people say. It's absurd that you need 2h to finish meta and open the vault, unless you just decide to buy keys (but that just encourages irl money spending, as you're not playing the game to earn gold but convert gems to play - but maybe that's what Anet wants)

> > > > They have no regard for people who work, most have families, so if you worked and had 3-4 hours after work, you'd spend most of it with your family, which leaves little to no time for actual game. And there's a lot that one might want to do, but here they are doing single meta that takes 2 hours to do... for reward that's pretty much nothing considering the time that went into it. Another problem is that it has 20-30mins between each event, so if you're like me and you have everything done, you can do daily in between 2 of them but then that leaves you with break between other metas which they're so short that you don't have time to start anything else to kill time. So you're either just going to give up and go play something else in the game, something else entirely or just AFK-ing most of the 2h.

> > > > I even told my bf, I feel like GW2 became an "idle/clicker" game for people who have done everything - you come in, you afk 15-30min, click and press buttons for 5min, then afk for another 15-30min.

> > > > I wonder if next major patch will bring "moves a day thing" as well, so once we spend our 100 clicks, we either wait 1h or pay 400 gems. (I feel like I just gave them an awesome idea)

> > >

> > > You make it as if players can’t earn gold from playing the game and use that to purchase the keys. It doesn’t encourage people to buy gems more than anything else in the game. It’s no different than people spending two hours doing world bosses. The metas are spread out enough that you can do other things in between them. You have high playtime hours and high AP so clearly the two hours isn’t the real issue for you. If it is, just spend ~30 min and farm the gold for the keys. I’m sure that earning 4.6G in less than two hours is manageable.

> >

> > Then what is the point in Anet making updates if I go elsewhere to earn money in order to do them? I thought new updates are there to be played, how dare I tell Anet to make it less annoying to play a game I paid for and poured 7 years of my life in. Interesting how they finally added some content and people are supposed to go do something else to earn money in order to do current content faster instead of Anet just coming to their senses and realizing that people have work, families and other games to play.

>

> Then do the metas. The option to farm gold to purchase the keys is available to those who don’t want to do them which you appeared to fall under based on your post. The metas take no more time to do than your typical meta (5-10 min).

>

> > But I think, above all, that I should try and get myself off of forums eventually because everybody here just defends them with their lives as if Anet is just divine. (which never works cuz it's a weird feeling of "Let's go see how people are defending them today" and once I do I regret it cuz I'm left angered and in disbelief)

>

> There’s a difference between defending Anet and defending something particular in the game. They can be mutually exclusive.

I am doing events, but I can still dislike the whole design of it. Cuz I'm not going to waste gold and then have to do some mindless farming more than I do already.

And I'll just give an example, latest thing we were angry about is the whole theater thing. People were mad, Rubi came and said something about people attacking them, the anger immediately died down.... now.... fast foward, patch day ... if you read little blue text for Merchandise Collector achievement, it literally says something about going to Bangar's Rally and all we got is merch....

hmmmm..... does is not ring a bell ?

People were mostly angry about the whole merch ad at their thing.... and their theater thing could be like "a rally"... so what I'm saying is, here are people being mad at Anet for false hype and 30min for merch sales, and they're having a laugh about it to the point of literally making a mock achievement ....

They DON'T care. But people still defend them...

> @"Jayden Reese.9542" said:

> > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > > > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > > I still ask myself why I even bother playing the game.

> > > > The only reason I haven't left is cuz I'm over 14k hours in with 39k AP. Too much time and money went into it that now it's too late to leave.

> > > > You summed it all up pretty nicely and Anet doesn't even play their game in their off time to understand anything people say. It's absurd that you need 2h to finish meta and open the vault, unless you just decide to buy keys (but that just encourages irl money spending, as you're not playing the game to earn gold but convert gems to play - but maybe that's what Anet wants)

> > > > They have no regard for people who work, most have families, so if you worked and had 3-4 hours after work, you'd spend most of it with your family, which leaves little to no time for actual game. And there's a lot that one might want to do, but here they are doing single meta that takes 2 hours to do... for reward that's pretty much nothing considering the time that went into it. Another problem is that it has 20-30mins between each event, so if you're like me and you have everything done, you can do daily in between 2 of them but then that leaves you with break between other metas which they're so short that you don't have time to start anything else to kill time. So you're either just going to give up and go play something else in the game, something else entirely or just AFK-ing most of the 2h.

> > > > I even told my bf, I feel like GW2 became an "idle/clicker" game for people who have done everything - you come in, you afk 15-30min, click and press buttons for 5min, then afk for another 15-30min.

> > > > I wonder if next major patch will bring "moves a day thing" as well, so once we spend our 100 clicks, we either wait 1h or pay 400 gems. (I feel like I just gave them an awesome idea)

> > >

> > > You make it as if players can’t earn gold from playing the game and use that to purchase the keys. It doesn’t encourage people to buy gems more than anything else in the game. It’s no different than people spending two hours doing world bosses. The metas are spread out enough that you can do other things in between them. You have high playtime hours and high AP so clearly the two hours isn’t the real issue for you. If it is, just spend ~30 min and farm the gold for the keys. I’m sure that earning 4.6G in less than two hours is manageable.

> >

> > Then what is the point in Anet making updates if I go elsewhere to earn money in order to do them? I thought new updates are there to be played, how dare I tell Anet to make it less annoying to play a game I paid for and poured 7 years of my life in. Interesting how they finally added some content and people are supposed to go do something else to earn money in order to do current content faster instead of Anet just coming to their senses and realizing that people have work, families and other games to play.

> > But I think, above all, that I should try and get myself off of forums eventually because everybody here just defends them with their lives as if Anet is just divine. (which never works cuz it's a weird feeling of "Let's go see how people are defending them today" and once I do I regret it cuz I'm left angered and in disbelief)

> > Seems to me like everybody here barely plays when all of you think Anet is perfect, that game is doing well and perfect. No wonder Anet never changes for the better when all they do is read forums (which actually, I doubt they do, other than forum people but they're not devs, we need actual devs to read) and see praise. People should be loud and tell Anet to do something about the dying game. I am mostly blunt here on forums but the thing is, I tell it how it is because I wouldn't be spending 14k+ hours in this game if it wasn't dear to me. I met my soon to be husband in it, and a lot of other things happened cuz of GW2. But sure, all of you should just sit and be completely blind to what's going on, people like you and others here on forum just praising them for anything and everything and not telling them the hard truth is why they're going to fail. Things people are asking for like build templates are coming like .... 7 years TOO late. Few times when we were loud, someone from them comes here or Twitter and goes like "oh no we're being attacked"... and people suddenly turn into gold fish and don't remember what happened and are like "oh you go Anet!"... Things like hairs, I'm 100% sure they'd earn so much more giving us hairs especially after 4+ years of not having them, plus they got a bunch just sitting there somewhere not being used when they can easily just release them. But nope, they'd rather make and pump out some ugly chairs .... but actually maybe that's the whole thing, it might be them knowing it's mostly an afk game now, so they give us chairs to sit on while we do so.

>

> They are meant to be played and have been. It doesn't take 2h to get the 4 keys. Like players still camp matriach for a 1g AG while you can do flame for more and ash for 3.5 g in the same time. You know the events and times. You know the areas you can make money in. They can't make every area 25g an hour and if they did prices of everything would increase to compensate. Your other complaints are valid but Anet wouldn't design chairs if fools didn't buy a chair for their pixels to afk in.

There's a difference between afking for 2h almost and afking for 5min before Matriarch ...

Plus even if you did VB TD and AB metas, you're literally afking most of it. 5m afk before Matri, then 15-20m before Gerent and then afking 10min after Gerent kill because it dies so fast now, and then 15m before Tarir ...

And im saying ... that design is bad. It would be much better if they're all like SW Vine, you can get them any time if pre events are done.

> @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > I still ask myself why I even bother playing the game.

> > The only reason I haven't left is cuz I'm over 14k hours in with 39k AP. Too much time and money went into it that now it's too late to leave.

> > You summed it all up pretty nicely and Anet doesn't even play their game in their off time to understand anything people say. It's absurd that you need 2h to finish meta and open the vault, unless you just decide to buy keys (but that just encourages irl money spending, as you're not playing the game to earn gold but convert gems to play - but maybe that's what Anet wants)

> > They have no regard for people who work, most have families, so if you worked and had 3-4 hours after work, you'd spend most of it with your family, which leaves little to no time for actual game. And there's a lot that one might want to do, but here they are doing single meta that takes 2 hours to do... for reward that's pretty much nothing considering the time that went into it. Another problem is that it has 20-30mins between each event, so if you're like me and you have everything done, you can do daily in between 2 of them but then that leaves you with break between other metas which they're so short that you don't have time to start anything else to kill time. So you're either just going to give up and go play something else in the game, something else entirely or just AFK-ing most of the 2h.

> > I even told my bf, I feel like GW2 became an "idle/clicker" game for people who have done everything - you come in, you afk 15-30min, click and press buttons for 5min, then afk for another 15-30min.

> > I wonder if next major patch will bring "moves a day thing" as well, so once we spend our 100 clicks, we either wait 1h or pay 400 gems. (I feel like I just gave them an awesome idea)

>

> You make it as if players can’t earn gold from playing the game and use that to purchase the keys. It doesn’t encourage people to buy gems more than anything else in the game. It’s no different than people spending two hours doing world bosses. The metas are spread out enough that you can do other things in between them. You have high playtime hours and high AP so clearly the two hours isn’t the real issue for you. If it is, just spend ~30 min and farm the gold for the keys. I’m sure that earning 4.6G in less than two hours is manageable.

Then what is the point in Anet making updates if I go elsewhere to earn money in order to do them? I thought new updates are there to be played, how dare I tell Anet to make it less annoying to play a game I paid for and poured 7 years of my life in. Interesting how they finally added some content and people are supposed to go do something else to earn money in order to do current content faster instead of Anet just coming to their senses and realizing that people have work, families and other games to play.

But I think, above all, that I should try and get myself off of forums eventually because everybody here just defends them with their lives as if Anet is just divine. (which never works cuz it's a weird feeling of "Let's go see how people are defending them today" and once I do I regret it cuz I'm left angered and in disbelief)

Seems to me like everybody here barely plays when all of you think Anet is perfect, that game is doing well and perfect. No wonder Anet never changes for the better when all they do is read forums (which actually, I doubt they do, other than forum people but they're not devs, we need actual devs to read) and see praise. People should be loud and tell Anet to do something about the dying game. I am mostly blunt here on forums but the thing is, I tell it how it is because I wouldn't be spending 14k+ hours in this game if it wasn't dear to me. I met my soon to be husband in it, and a lot of other things happened cuz of GW2. But sure, all of you should just sit and be completely blind to what's going on, people like you and others here on forum just praising them for anything and everything and not telling them the hard truth is why they're going to fail. Things people are asking for like build templates are coming like .... 7 years TOO late. Few times when we were loud, someone from them comes here or Twitter and goes like "oh no we're being attacked"... and people suddenly turn into gold fish and don't remember what happened and are like "oh you go Anet!"... Things like hairs, I'm 100% sure they'd earn so much more giving us hairs especially after 4+ years of not having them, plus they got a bunch just sitting there somewhere not being used when they can easily just release them. But nope, they'd rather make and pump out some ugly chairs .... but actually maybe that's the whole thing, it might be them knowing it's mostly an afk game now, so they give us chairs to sit on while we do so.

I still ask myself why I even bother playing the game.

The only reason I haven't left is cuz I'm over 14k hours in with 39k AP. Too much time and money went into it that now it's too late to leave.

You summed it all up pretty nicely and Anet doesn't even play their game in their off time to understand anything people say. It's absurd that you need 2h to finish meta and open the vault, unless you just decide to buy keys (but that just encourages irl money spending, as you're not playing the game to earn gold but convert gems to play - but maybe that's what Anet wants)

They have no regard for people who work, most have families, so if you worked and had 3-4 hours after work, you'd spend most of it with your family, which leaves little to no time for actual game. And there's a lot that one might want to do, but here they are doing single meta that takes 2 hours to do... for reward that's pretty much nothing considering the time that went into it. Another problem is that it has 20-30mins between each event, so if you're like me and you have everything done, you can do daily in between 2 of them but then that leaves you with break between other metas which they're so short that you don't have time to start anything else to kill time. So you're either just going to give up and go play something else in the game, something else entirely or just AFK-ing most of the 2h.

I even told my bf, I feel like GW2 became an "idle/clicker" game for people who have done everything - you come in, you afk 15-30min, click and press buttons for 5min, then afk for another 15-30min.

I wonder if next major patch will bring "moves a day thing" as well, so once we spend our 100 clicks, we either wait 1h or pay 400 gems. (I feel like I just gave them an awesome idea)

A lot of things people ask Anet for are out the window. Unfortunately.

> @"Obtena.7952" said:

> > @"Dalec.9853" said:

> > > @"Obtena.7952" said:

> > > > @"Dalec.9853" said:

> > > > > @"Obtena.7952" said:

> > > > > Not making it infinite IS removing it. I understand perfectly what you are saying.

> > > > >

> > > > > YOU might think there is no point to infinite achievements. That doesn't make it true. Again, if Anet didn't think there was a reason, they wouldn't have implemented it. They don't just randomly do these things just because with no reason.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Please tell me what the point is in the infinite achievement "Agent of Entropy" to use that as the example, once you have the 250/250AP max? I'm curious, as it IS pointless past that reward limit.

> > > > And yes, Anet do have a reason probably - a design limitation on 'infinite' achievements not being able to be marked complete once the reward limit is hit - and that is the point, if the reward is limited is it not really an 'infinite' achievement, it just serves to be an annoyance not showing as completed once done. Only achievements that always give a reward like a bag of gear or whatever they want it to should be added as infinite, the rest just use the tier system like most other achievements.

> > >

> > > Great ... so if you acknowledge Anet has a reason, you don't need to hear mine because mine is irrelevant.

> >

> > A reason doesn't have to mean it's the correct decision, infinite achievements with limited rewards should NOT be marked as infinite, only truly infinite achievements (with infinite rewards) should be marked so.

>

> So infinity achievements are a not correct decision? OK, let's ask Anet if it's incorrect ... they design the game. I bet I know their answer.

Are they paying you to defend them so much ? ... you are not open to even understanding what others are saying but just sit there and defend them with your life.

If you are paid, where do I sign up ?

> @"Obtena.7952" said:

> > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > @"Obtena.7952" said:

> > > Not making it infinite IS removing it. I understand perfectly what you are saying.

> > >

> > > YOU might there is no point to infinite achievements. That doesn't make it true.

> >

> > It wouldn't remove the achievement, because if salvage achievement says 250 AP is max, you will get 250 AP and just have it "completed", you DONT get anything from it other than that.

> > Vault on new map, 10 APs, that would be THE SAME if they just made achievement with 10 tiers that would give 1 AP per tier OR tell you "open it 10 times" and award 10AP.

> > You don't get any reward besides AP, and once you reach max AP, you got all you could. So again, not removing or taking away.

> > It's not like salvage achievement keeps giving you AP past 250.... it isn't, so having it constantly pop up for no reason is pointless, just make it as "complete", you gain nothing else from it anyway.

>

> If you say so ... that still doesn't give a reason to remove it.

and still you keep on going about "removing" something, nothing would be removed. You clearly don't understand. Have a nice day.

> @"Obtena.7952" said:

> Not making it infinite IS removing it. I understand perfectly what you are saying.

>

> YOU might there is no point to infinite achievements. That doesn't make it true.

It wouldn't remove the achievement, because if salvage achievement says 250 AP is max, you will get 250 AP and just have it "completed", you DONT get anything from it other than that.

Vault on new map, 10 APs, that would be THE SAME if they just made achievement with 10 tiers that would give 1 AP per tier OR tell you "open it 10 times" and award 10AP.

You don't get any reward besides AP, and once you reach max AP, you got all you could. So again, not removing or taking away.

It's not like salvage achievement keeps giving you AP past 250.... it isn't, so having it constantly pop up for no reason is pointless, just make it as "complete", you gain nothing else from it anyway.

> @"Obtena.7952" said:

> > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > > @"Obtena.7952" said:

> > > There isn't any reason to do this.

> >

> > Just like there isnt any reason for them to put infinite achievements that don't reward anything per repeat, when they can just make it like any other and have it displayed as completed once max AP is reached.

>

> Actually .. if they DIDN'T have a reason, they wouldn't do it because it's something extra they had to do to make it that way. Don't assume because you don't like it, that Anet didn't have a reason to make it the way it is. If you want it changed, you better get your head around the idea there IS a reason for it and you need to come up with a BETTER one that's not just "I don't like it" to get it removed.

And if you bothered to understand what I said, you'd realize I never said for it to get removed. But rather (if it has NO reward per repeat) just make it like any other achievement that has tiers and mark it as done. NOT remove them.

There is no point behind infinite achievements that have NO reward per repeat, such as salvage one. Once you got 250 AP, it should be "completed". That's not taking ANYTHING away.

> @"Obtena.7952" said:

> There isn't any reason to do this.

Just like there isnt any reason for them to put infinite achievements that don't reward anything per repeat, when they can just make it like any other and have it displayed as completed once max AP is reached.

> @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said:

> Perhaps, it's a technical issue. Unless one is intimately familiar with the game's code, it's hard to say why some things as they are.

>

> There are definitely other QoL requests I'd rather have the Devs work on. Of course, that's just me.

Code shouldn't be a problem because all other achievements work that way. They're not repeatable and have tiers and are done when objective is reached.

So there's no need for them to add repeatable/infinite achievements like Salvage or Vault from new episode when they can make it just "open Vault 10 times for 10 AP".

> @"sevenDEADLY.5281" said:

> This might come off as a bit harsh but your OCD isn't a good reason to take away things from other people. I have problems in life too, that doesn't give me the right to force them on other people.

It's not taking away anything, it's just turning infinite achievements (ones that don't give rewards other than AP) into achievements like any other that would appear as "completed" once max AP is reached.

So I guess you just misunderstood the post. It wouldn't take away or force anything on anyone..

and i did specify , that its ONLY for infinite achievements that DONT award anything other than AP.

Meaning -

- infinite salvage should be completed once 250 AP is reached.

- achievements like master diver that do give rewards for each repeat could stay as they are unless Anet comes up with some other way to display them (maybe give them their own "infinite" tab instead)

Infinite achievements that don't give reward for repeating them should NOT be infinite. (NOT talking about the ones that are repeatable AND reward you per repeat)

Just make it another achievement with few tiers to do, which would give AP, and like any other achievement it should be done once max AP is reached.

For example, infinite achievement for vault in the new map is unnecessary, it doesn't give you rewards other than 10 AP so it shouldn't be infinite.

It's also driving me insane, and I think I'm not the only one, but my OCD is killing me when I have to look at incomplete achievements.

> @"mindcircus.1506" said:

> > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > I'd rather have them give us notice that it will be removed from the game. As the game is rated 12 and yet has loads of gambling in it.

>

> And yet you complained rather loudly when they removed the hairstyle kits.

when did I complain ? I have permanent Hair kit. (for which I jokingly asked a guy if he would refund my £200 cuz he said perma kit should be removed in another thread)

I just said it's silly of them to remove hair kits but leave coin that you sell for 1g. Cuz hair kits would have more use. And I also said I hope it's their sign (cuz I want hairs)like - we'll remove kits, release hairs and then they gotta buy the kits with $$$

so that's not complaining, that's just pointing out how they leave useless 1g coin and also tier 6 mats, which you can buy for few golds if you need them, you certainly wouldn't spend your irl money to gamble for tier 6 mats. So all it was is comparing the value of item and how wrong it is for them to remove something useful just so people would have more chance to get coin. I'm pretty much speaking for people who do need the kit, I just destroy it when I get it, I don't need it myself.

I think this is the comment you're thinking of:

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Maybe it's ...

"remove the kits so we add new hairs and faces and then people have to buy gems .... $$$$$$$$$$$"

Although, I shouldn't hope for any hairs.....

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I would also copy the coin comment if I could but it was removed. (it was a reply to someone replying to this one I copied)

But basically saying if they cared for players they would leave kits and actually remove the coin and t6 mats. So that's not complaining about removing the kit for MYSELF, it's just pointing out how for some people kits are more worth it so they don't have to spend 350 gems or whatever it costs to buy it each time they want to change the hair.

If I could choose, I'd remove the BLC all together but since obviously that's never going to happen, people should at least keep demanding that they put useful items in there.

So you give Kasmeer old hairstyle that was datamined back when Silverwastes map was coming out, that hairstyle got released by accident and was removed within an hour. You also give hair back to Braham.

Where are hairs for players ?

In trailer Braham comes to commander and says "I have hair again", which to me seemed like a little tease that we might be getting some. But of course... nope. It's been years since you added any for races other than human. And it's highly requested.

You gave humans like 20 hairstyles and some faces with PoF release but completely forgot all the other races. The last hairs we got, humans and norn just had a swap, which is just lazy.

Sylvari didn't get any new ones with HoT, also since it's been said that there is no new expansion any time soon (if ever), season 5 having to do with norn and charr surely means those 2 should get some.

I wish I could wear those chairs you keep adding to gemstore as my hair.

As if chairs bring you more money than hairstyles do.

I'd rather have them give us notice that it will be removed from the game. As the game is rated 12 and yet has loads of gambling in it.

And you need to learn that they are a COMPANY, that literally has millions of $. No one says anything about them individually, we only ever critique Anet as a company. You need to understand that you're just a mere player in their huge game and you're, like I, like anyone else... insignificant and expendable. Any of us leaving wouldn't matter unless its on a mass scale. They (as a company) don't care. Any one that works with millions doesn't care about little people like you and me, which you can see from every day life in any business.

Do you also get pissed about Windows bugs for example and then say "I should remember they're people, they made this beautiful OS that lets me run my beautiful games" ... no you don't. You're aware they're billion dollar company and all you're there for is money.

Don't know why you people are so excited... it's literally a Prologue, so not even a full story episode. and you all should've learnt by now not to expect much.

> @"alberte.2685" said:

> I think the permanent hair kit should be removed, which makes ANET unable to make money when updating a new hairstyle.

> There are thousands of purchaseable hairstyles in many MMORPG game malls in China.

> But GW2, it seems that it has not been updated for several years.

If that happened.. would you refund my £200 I spent to get it ?

Pretty sure there's a search option, so how hard can it be to type 2 letters and have mini you're looking for pop up in results

> @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> > @"MetalGirl.2370" said:

> > Considering how much I don't trust Anet, I'm super sceptical with gem prices when it comes to Gold-Gem transaction.

> > It only ever goes up or down 2-5g, it never falls down drastically to indicate people not buying gems as much.

> > So what I think, and there is NO WAY any of you can convince me otherwise:

> >

> > - I feel it is Anet who slowly keeps upping the price over the years, but lets us believe its people. So that people would just opt out for Money-Gem because gold prices are outrageous, that way they get more $$$. It is "suspicious" how it was around 145g more/less during whole Anniv-sale but the day they put keys on sale, it jumps by 30-40g, to 180 more or less for 400gems. And basically now it's sitting on around 170-185g and is not going down, when there is no way people are buying gems that much to keep the price up. Basically I feel they put it up by 40g so that people would just go for IRL money instead. They just set it to fluctuate between 170-185g per 400gems. But it's pretty much gonna stay there forever, until they up it to 200g, and so on...

>

> You should look at what game out around that time. The prices continue to go up as gold becomes easier to get. I probably spent over 3K gems a week ago on those character slots and I've spent five times as much on other things such as mount skins. All of that by converting my gold to gems. If there isn't enough people spending money to convert gems to gold then the rate will continue to rise which it has been doing over the life of the game.

But that's during anniv-sale... and surely amount of gems bought is way less than it is during sale and yet it's not going down, so it should fall down, but it doesn't go up or down more than 5g or so. That's why I think Anet locks it at X amount for a while and then slowly moves it up each sale.

Considering how much I don't trust Anet, I'm super sceptical with gem prices when it comes to Gold-Gem transaction.

It only ever goes up or down 2-5g, it never falls down drastically to indicate people not buying gems as much.

So what I think, and there is NO WAY any of you can convince me otherwise:

- I feel it is Anet who slowly keeps upping the price over the years, but lets us believe its people. So that people would just opt out for Money-Gem because gold prices are outrageous, that way they get more $$$. It is "suspicious" how it was around 145g more/less during whole Anniv-sale but the day they put keys on sale, it jumps by 30-40g, to 180 more or less for 400gems. And basically now it's sitting on around 170-185g and is not going down, when there is no way people are buying gems that much to keep the price up. Basically I feel they put it up by 40g so that people would just go for IRL money instead. They just set it to fluctuate between 170-185g per 400gems. But it's pretty much gonna stay there forever, until they up it to 200g, and so on...

"Please correct me if I am wrong, but currently GW2 has a very healthy online playerbase."

Yeah, you're wrong.