Yoci.2481

Don't worry I already had a full minstrel setup.

So I took my Chrono to Drizzlewood Coast and put her in full Minstrel gear. Weapons were GS and sword/fokus. I picked the same traits and utilities I usually have for WvW roaming. My opinion is: It is doable, but tedious. It works, but it it takes much longer to kill stuff. And while you don't take as much damage, fights last much longer. So you end up taking more damage that way. If you are okay with a very slow laid back playstyle this might work for you.

Like solo open world content? Forget it, minstrel Chrono has no damage at all.

It was a choice between being weak to projectiles or being weak (even weaker, really) to thieves. Now that choice is gone.

> @"Kondor.2904" said: > > @"Yoci.2481" said: > > > @"Kondor.2904" said: > > > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > > > @"Kondor.2904" said: > > > > > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > > > > > @"Kondor.2904" said: > > > > > > > Remove distortion part of blurred inscriptions from the game, ty. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not a good enough reason and I think it's a great trait and used in a lot of Mirage builds to compensate for the loss in dodge bar in pvp/wvw. > > > > > > > > > > It's an extremely passive trait that just allows you to spam invulns (and if traited reflects and ambushes) on top of enhancing every signet. And while mesmer right now might not seem to be that strong, the trait itself is just toxic and promotes very lazy and 0 iq playstyle. I'd rather see it changed so you actually have to apply more than 2 brain cells in order to make use of it. But that's just my opinion, yeah. > > > > > > > > Mesmers AREN’t strong because of all the whiney players that had us get more nerfs than any other class out there just because “low IQ” players don’t know how to adapt or improve their own skills when encountering a Mesmer. > > > > > > > > Additionally, the blurred inscriptions is just another defends mechanism so it’s NOT lazy at all and if it was, how about we take a look at other professions that have overloaded kits with better survivability than us. > > > > > > > > And so far, you want the trait changed but not going in depth as to what to change it into to compensate.... > > > > > > > > Again, if you don’t like fighting against a Mesmer with Blurred Inscriptions then I suggest not entering WvW/PvP and picking a fight with one because we’re at that stage in this game where Mesmers SHOULD not be getting any passive nerfs just because ‘children’ need a handicap when fighting us...periodt > > > > > > I main mesmer myself. The fact that other classes have "low iq" mechanics doesn't serve as a justification of having them in our own kit, in my opinion. I think it's much better to promote high risk - high reward playstyle. And this trait doesn't succeed at that. If you like it, it's all cool, i'm just sharing my point of view. > > > > Are there unhealthy Mesmer traits? Yes, but to talk about them as if they exist in a vacuum is not helpful at this point in the game's life. Mesmer is already the weakest class in competitive game modes. To nerf it further now in the name of conceptual purity is silly. The time to nerf Blurred Inscriptions or Continuum Split is after the rest of Mesmer is fixed. > > I didn't say I want mesmer nerfed, I said I want to see the trait rework and distortion part removed. If the trait is unhealthy, it should be changed no matter how broken or weak the class is. The same happened to perma reflect trait which was super toxic and avoided nerfs for far too long. I (and apparently devs too) also don't think mesmer is in such a bad spot right now that you will get "fixed", you can at maximum expect some sustain buffs, and that's it. > > And what is this reasoning behind "yeah, this should be nerfed but not right now, cuz right now mes is kinda weak". We've seen this happen so many times when they actively ignore something unhealthy, trying to balance it out by nerfing other things, and then when they finally realize it's not working, they remove your dodge bar. It's not like this trait is a cornerstone of every mesmer build either, it's just lazy af. Your example strengthens my point. The Evasive Mirror nerf destroyed the trait. Maybe it was too strong, but now it's useless. Even when it was strong it was competing with Blinding Dissipation, and most people chose that instead. So now we have another dead trait. Passive ICDs are bad anyway and should be used as sparsely as possible.

> @"Kondor.2904" said: > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > @"Kondor.2904" said: > > > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > > > @"Kondor.2904" said: > > > > > Remove distortion part of blurred inscriptions from the game, ty. > > > > > > > > Not a good enough reason and I think it's a great trait and used in a lot of Mirage builds to compensate for the loss in dodge bar in pvp/wvw. > > > > > > It's an extremely passive trait that just allows you to spam invulns (and if traited reflects and ambushes) on top of enhancing every signet. And while mesmer right now might not seem to be that strong, the trait itself is just toxic and promotes very lazy and 0 iq playstyle. I'd rather see it changed so you actually have to apply more than 2 brain cells in order to make use of it. But that's just my opinion, yeah. > > > > Mesmers AREN’t strong because of all the whiney players that had us get more nerfs than any other class out there just because “low IQ” players don’t know how to adapt or improve their own skills when encountering a Mesmer. > > > > Additionally, the blurred inscriptions is just another defends mechanism so it’s NOT lazy at all and if it was, how about we take a look at other professions that have overloaded kits with better survivability than us. > > > > And so far, you want the trait changed but not going in depth as to what to change it into to compensate.... > > > > Again, if you don’t like fighting against a Mesmer with Blurred Inscriptions then I suggest not entering WvW/PvP and picking a fight with one because we’re at that stage in this game where Mesmers SHOULD not be getting any passive nerfs just because ‘children’ need a handicap when fighting us...periodt > > I main mesmer myself. The fact that other classes have "low iq" mechanics doesn't serve as a justification of having them in our own kit, in my opinion. I think it's much better to promote high risk - high reward playstyle. And this trait doesn't succeed at that. If you like it, it's all cool, i'm just sharing my point of view. Are there unhealthy Mesmer traits? Yes, but to talk about them as if they exist in a vacuum is not helpful at this point in the game's life. Mesmer is already the weakest class in competitive game modes. To nerf it further now in the name of conceptual purity is silly. The time to nerf Blurred Inscriptions or Continuum Split is after the rest of Mesmer is fixed.

I wish they applied all the PvP changes to WvW as well.

Well yeah, people _are _asking for power Chrono nerfs. I can see that CS is very powerful, but what they needed to do to compensate Mesmer if they took that crutch away... oh my god! And even with it Mesmer isn't competitive. It is and always was a noob stomper.

You made an Asura so you did everything right that actually matters. Your build looks fine. I guess the idea is to maintain quickness using Phantasmal Haste and Persistence of Memory and spamming phantasms, while keeping your health up by killing trash mobs. I don't see why that wouldn't work. But it's open world PvE, so builds don't really matter there anyway. If you like that play style you will love Chronomancer! Personally I would die of sluggishness on core Mesmer without runes that provide 25% passive movement speed, but if you don't care about that Vampirism is fine I guess.

Good point, let all classes have that pleasant experience.

I don't have a special build for open world PvE, I just use my WvW roaming builds.

> @"JazzXman.7018" said: > > @"Yoci.2481" said: > > Thank you for the video. Will you do videos with audio commentary in the future? That would be cool. :) > > my pleasure, im happy you like it <3 > i have a few with audio, either from the team communication during at and i think one big rotation guide with voice explaining (which was months of work bc of the audio alone for barely any interest/ views tbh). the problem is, that my audio quality is pretty low (dunno why, already bought new headset and stuff) and also i rly like to have the music in my vids, so when i would talk, music would be in the background only and for that i would use different music, which only worth for background and not too distraction (what is like a limitation for the music choice and its quality). also for me i am not rly good at speaking english freely and im kinda shy and would talk a lot of ääähm uuhhm... :joy: > so i would need to edit such kitten out what needs a lot of time. thats why i usually prefer to make text guides with just great music in front. but if you rly want audio commentary i will try to do one :) is there any guide topic you would like me to explain? Thank you, your videos are very educational and fun. I often find it hard to both read your explanation of what is going on and watching you do it, at the same time. So when I read what you are doing I have to then pause or go back a few seconds to watch you do it. And there is nothing wrong with that but it interrupts the flow and the music. I can of course ignore the text and just watch you play and enjoy the music or just watch the video a few times like I usually do. It's just a lot easier to listen to commentary instead of reading it while watching. As far as ideas for a topic, well mostly anything that is fun to you. I generally prefer WvW over PvP in principle, and I hardly ever play PvP. So I know much less about it and most things PvP are interesting and useful to me. I know it is a lot of work and you do it all for free in your spare time. So I am just telling you my ideas, you don't have to do anything I say.

Just give us the PvE version of our traits in all game modes. Mesmer fixed.

Thank you for the video. Will you do videos with audio commentary in the future? That would be cool. :)

I like this quote: > @"DeceiverX.8361" said: > MC, by design, is impossible to balance and just a horrible concept for any PvP environment. Even CMC acknowledged this like a month ago on stream. Ohh, even CMC. Well if even the big Mesmer supporter CMC says it. =)

> @"paShadoWn.5723" said: > You cannot kill a decent mesmer with any class, only chase him/her away. > I play mesmer in sPvP for years, my last death was when they did an organized 5-man gank on me and my mouse button broke mid-gank. > Would have survived without it breaking... #stealth #teleport #superspeed Seems like there isn't a single decent Mesmer on this planet. Too bad that people forget to be good as soon as they log in on Mesmer.

Yes it is a sad situation and for a long time already. I dont know why the developers dont care. :(

Power Mirage can be made to work in WvW with Deceptive Evasion, Blurred Inscriptions and Desert Distortion. It has decent damage, AoE too thanks to the laz0r beamz, a bit of healing and condi cleanse and great mobility. But it is also rather one dimensional based around spamming invuls and picking up mirrors. Vallun has a build guide on Youtube. I enjoy playing it for a while and it's really good for roaming, but the fights feel a bit boring and not very interactive.