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I am not a fan of the skyscale tbh, but I can kinda understand the OP's issue.. though my issue is I just don't like to share the airspace with other skyscales above and below me, go find your own patch of Divinity to hover over or get owwwt! :)
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> @"Roamer.3259" said:
> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > @"daggerdale.9043" said:
> > > > @"Ashantara.8731" said:
> > > > > @"Mazreal Blackknight.1564" said:
> > > > > This was not an exploit it was something allowed for as long as Garden plots were first sold. My friends could come and harvest my two plots for extra primer flowers and that was fine. They could come and harvest for the food we used in our gameplay. How is this with ascended seeds any different than before?
> > > >
> > > > It is different, because it was never intended for ascended food to become super cheap to acquire. Therefore, it _was_ unintended for people to be able to circumvent the daily planting by harvesting from other people's garden plots (and several per day, too).
> > >
> > > you couldnt farm several times. if you got a plant from spot 1 it was locked for youre acount that day. and compared to other food it isnt super cheap. you start with 20 meals you need to decraft, than you need the seed, than you to cook it again with other stuff which isnt for free.
> > > but the biggest problem is the real money paywall you have now. you are bound to 4h of buffs a day if you dont spend $. and when you dont have time to make youre garden every day you can forget ascended cooking.
> > >
> > > and i bet you will see soon that people will be kicked out of raids when they dont have the time to farm theyr pepper/mint at home.
> > >
> > >
> > > dont get me wrong, i dont say you should have ascended food for 1 cooper. but locking it behind a paywall is BAD. cooking was all the time just a mess. and this "fix" made it worse.
> > >
> >
> > How do they not have time to farm their own instance.. they appear to have time to farm yours each day.. what is the difference.. I think your hiding the real issue here, you or your friends don't want to spend on the garden plot, but want to maximise their profits from the plot they can farm. It is no surprise we were seeing many players advertising for plot farming and some were evening charging for it.
> > Only one of your group of friends needs to actually cook the food to be able to then share the food around for buffs, so your raid kick thought is also unlikely.
> > If your wanting to put an argument out for the change at least be honest about the reasoning behind it... you/your friends don't want to buy the plots and they all want to farm the seeds for profit, that is the crux of it.
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> That brings the question as to why didn't they just make the resources farmed account bound to begin with? Almost every single ascended level item in the game is account locked, why not just lock the mats to the account.
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> Why punish everyone because some people were exploiting for profit gain.
That is a good question and something I too thought a little offbeat when seeing it was possible to farm and sell ascended product.. perhaps it was an oversight and this was the quick fix - only ANET can answer that though I guess.
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Well a month short 24yrs running my own projects management consultancy across a variety of industry tells me that being overly reliant on short term plans can often lead to a stagnation of growth either in product, business or worse.. both.
That said, no one is saying ANET cant be flexible, of course they should be, in fact I even said it would be of no surprise they might of had to downgrade some things in order to ensure that longer term objectives can still be met, which is my thought in their move away from expacs over the last few years... they will of already seen the signs in their forecasting, hence maybe these "other projects" had begun materialising to try and move away from being overly reliant on a single ageing product.
Then again perhaps we forget, ANET are not the only interested party in all this and likely have to bend the knee when seeking to fund any such short, mid or long term plan for the game and the studio in general, made all the more relevant knowing that the whole of NCSofts ageing portfolio is seeing signs of slow down of revenue.
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> @"daggerdale.9043" said:
> > @"Ashantara.8731" said:
> > > @"Mazreal Blackknight.1564" said:
> > > This was not an exploit it was something allowed for as long as Garden plots were first sold. My friends could come and harvest my two plots for extra primer flowers and that was fine. They could come and harvest for the food we used in our gameplay. How is this with ascended seeds any different than before?
> >
> > It is different, because it was never intended for ascended food to become super cheap to acquire. Therefore, it _was_ unintended for people to be able to circumvent the daily planting by harvesting from other people's garden plots (and several per day, too).
>
> you couldnt farm several times. if you got a plant from spot 1 it was locked for youre acount that day. and compared to other food it isnt super cheap. you start with 20 meals you need to decraft, than you need the seed, than you to cook it again with other stuff which isnt for free.
> but the biggest problem is the real money paywall you have now. you are bound to 4h of buffs a day if you dont spend $. and when you dont have time to make youre garden every day you can forget ascended cooking.
>
> and i bet you will see soon that people will be kicked out of raids when they dont have the time to farm theyr pepper/mint at home.
>
>
> dont get me wrong, i dont say you should have ascended food for 1 cooper. but locking it behind a paywall is BAD. cooking was all the time just a mess. and this "fix" made it worse.
>
How do they not have time to farm their own instance.. they appear to have time to farm yours each day.. what is the difference.. I think your hiding the real issue here, you or your friends don't want to spend on the garden plot, but want to maximise their profits from the plot they can farm. It is no surprise we were seeing many players advertising for plot farming and some were evening charging for it.
Only one of your group of friends needs to actually cook the food to be able to then share the food around for buffs, so your raid kick thought is also unlikely.
If your wanting to put an argument out for the change at least be honest about the reasoning behind it... you/your friends don't want to buy the plots and they all want to farm the seeds for profit, that is the crux of it.
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> @"Vayne.8563" said:
> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > @"Vayne.8563" said:
> > > > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > > > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > > > > THANK YOU!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is literally all I wanted to hear from the live event lol
> > > > > > > I knew season 5 was coming, but I really wanted to know that expansions were not being killed off and the game was going to rely entierly on living world going forward.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't expect Anet to announce expansions when they're not even in the works and they're not ready to move onto one but just knowing that they are open to making more of them for Gw2 is a massive piece of mind that will keep me personally as dedicated a player as I have been for years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like the living world and I enjoy the living world, but I do not believe the living world is capable of sustaining the game indefinitely.
> > > > > > > Expansions are essential to the future of this game imo and that is a belief that isn't going to change, so this confirmation is something i've been wanting to hear for a good while now ^^
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmmm what exactly was confirmed, cos I never read any such thing tbh.
> > > > >
> > > > > That expansions are still on the table as future content for the game and that Anet is aware that many of us still want expansions for this game and are more than willing to pay for them should they make them.
> > > > > That's all ^^ and all I really wanted to hear at the event :)
> > > >
> > > > Your reading way too much into that.. it was clearly a politicians statement.. neither deny or confirm means nothing.
> > > > It's just a non answer, as others have said already.
> > >
> > > Many said the same thing before the first expansion was announced though. I said I thought they were working on an expansion, Anet said nothing about it, and many many months later, they finally announced it, after people were saying that Anet was ambiguous, or would have said something if that was the case.
> > >
> > > Anet isn't going to reveal this information before it's ready. Here's a possibility. Some people are in favor of making an expansion some aren't and there's an internal conflict, so they aren't going to say anything. We just don't have the information. But this is not the first time the bulk of the forum has said something that turned out to not be true.
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> > > Sometimes it's not often the table means it's not off the table. It could just be a political answer. It could also be a genuine one. How you take it depends on how jaded you are.
> >
> > Except ANET have said.. they aren't ... they are committed to LW for the foreseeable future... but of course things can and often do change, but as of right now no expacs is incoming and if they start now it will be at least 2 yrs but likely more as they are already full steam ahead bringing the first SAGA to our screens, which is going to be resource intensive for the 4 teams for the next 12 months at the very least.
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> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > @"Vayne.8563" said:
> > > > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > > > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > > > > THANK YOU!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is literally all I wanted to hear from the live event lol
> > > > > > > I knew season 5 was coming, but I really wanted to know that expansions were not being killed off and the game was going to rely entierly on living world going forward.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't expect Anet to announce expansions when they're not even in the works and they're not ready to move onto one but just knowing that they are open to making more of them for Gw2 is a massive piece of mind that will keep me personally as dedicated a player as I have been for years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like the living world and I enjoy the living world, but I do not believe the living world is capable of sustaining the game indefinitely.
> > > > > > > Expansions are essential to the future of this game imo and that is a belief that isn't going to change, so this confirmation is something i've been wanting to hear for a good while now ^^
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmmm what exactly was confirmed, cos I never read any such thing tbh.
> > > > >
> > > > > That expansions are still on the table as future content for the game and that Anet is aware that many of us still want expansions for this game and are more than willing to pay for them should they make them.
> > > > > That's all ^^ and all I really wanted to hear at the event :)
> > > >
> > > > Your reading way too much into that.. it was clearly a politicians statement.. neither deny or confirm means nothing.
> > > > It's just a non answer, as others have said already.
> > >
> > > Many said the same thing before the first expansion was announced though. I said I thought they were working on an expansion, Anet said nothing about it, and many many months later, they finally announced it, after people were saying that Anet was ambiguous, or would have said something if that was the case.
> > >
> > > Anet isn't going to reveal this information before it's ready. Here's a possibility. Some people are in favor of making an expansion some aren't and there's an internal conflict, so they aren't going to say anything. We just don't have the information. But this is not the first time the bulk of the forum has said something that turned out to not be true.
> > >
> > > Sometimes it's not often the table means it's not off the table. It could just be a political answer. It could also be a genuine one. How you take it depends on how jaded you are.
> >
> > Except ANET have said.. they aren't ... they are committed to LW for the foreseeable future... but of course things can and often do change, but as of right now no expacs is incoming and if they start now it will be at least 2 yrs but likely more as they are already full steam ahead bringing the first SAGA to our screens, which is going to be resource intensive for the 4 teams for the next 12 months at the very least.
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> But they've also said the same thing in the past, and we got an expansion. I don't see the difference. They will probably do an expansion of there's enough pressure from either the audience or NcSoft. That's my take on it.
That pressure is irrelevant if the kind of resources required for an expac are not there no matter what we might want,but sure things can definitely change if NCSoft believe it prudent to open the coffers, but even if they did, how long do you think it is going to be until a return on their outlay can be realised and more immediately do ANET have the internal resource and capabilities to be able to deliver it or will they go back out to the market and raise headcount once more.
It is not so simple as to saying pressure from us or NCSoft will mean expansion will come.
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> @"Vayne.8563" said:
> > @"zealex.9410" said:
> > > @"Vayne.8563" said:
> > > > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > > > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > > > > THANK YOU!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is literally all I wanted to hear from the live event lol
> > > > > > > I knew season 5 was coming, but I really wanted to know that expansions were not being killed off and the game was going to rely entierly on living world going forward.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't expect Anet to announce expansions when they're not even in the works and they're not ready to move onto one but just knowing that they are open to making more of them for Gw2 is a massive piece of mind that will keep me personally as dedicated a player as I have been for years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like the living world and I enjoy the living world, but I do not believe the living world is capable of sustaining the game indefinitely.
> > > > > > > Expansions are essential to the future of this game imo and that is a belief that isn't going to change, so this confirmation is something i've been wanting to hear for a good while now ^^
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmmm what exactly was confirmed, cos I never read any such thing tbh.
> > > > >
> > > > > That expansions are still on the table as future content for the game and that Anet is aware that many of us still want expansions for this game and are more than willing to pay for them should they make them.
> > > > > That's all ^^ and all I really wanted to hear at the event :)
> > > >
> > > > Your reading way too much into that.. it was clearly a politicians statement.. neither deny or confirm means nothing.
> > > > It's just a non answer, as others have said already.
> > >
> > > Many said the same thing before the first expansion was announced though. I said I thought they were working on an expansion, Anet said nothing about it, and many many months later, they finally announced it, after people were saying that Anet was ambiguous, or would have said something if that was the case.
> > >
> > > Anet isn't going to reveal this information before it's ready. Here's a possibility. Some people are in favor of making an expansion some aren't and there's an internal conflict, so they aren't going to say anything. We just don't have the information. But this is not the first time the bulk of the forum has said something that turned out to not be true.
> > >
> > > Sometimes it's not often the table means it's not off the table. It could just be a political answer. It could also be a genuine one. How you take it depends on how jaded you are.
> >
> > They announced pof was in development just fine.
>
> Nothing to do with what I said. They had a long term plan at that time and mentioned POF in an AMA that they were already working on it. Clearly they're not working on an expansion right now. Which doesn't mean an expansion isn't coming. The problem is you don't have enough data points to draw a conclusion. We've had two expansions and one of them was announced just fine. The other wasn't announced through months and months of doubts and demands. So saying Anet is saying this politically an opinion and it's okay to have an opinion. But it's just as possible the guy is saying we really don't know what we're doing after Season 5. That is, we don't know how many people will be playing the game in 2 years. What our income will be. What our situation will be. It's not even like Anet has the final say, since they're owned by NcSoft. In the past, NcSoft has said there'll be an expansion even when Anet said there wouldn't. Given that, why would you say there definitely will or won't be one.
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> The further out in the future something is, the harder it is to guarantee. I'd be more suspicious of he said, oh we'll definitely have an expansion at some point.
>
> I mean Sony announced they were coming out with Everquest Next, and then the SOE sold out to Daybreak Entertainment and the product was scrapped.. Blizzard said they were working on Titan and that project was scrapped. Anet was working on side projects and we know at least two of those were scrapped. Why would anyone make a definitive statement? Why would you take a definitive statement as more honest than someone saying it's a possibility?
A company the size of ANET absolutely should have some kind of long term plan for itself especially when it has to report into a higher power and eve more so as GW2 is currently the only thing keeping them relevant.
If they are relying on short term forecasting to carry them then they are already exposed and I would be ever so slightly concerned because that doesn't allow for much creativity and organic growth of the product or the business month to month or year to year, which would likely lead to maintenance mode sooner than we think.
Are we at that stage.... no I dont think so but we do know it has been a tough year or so for them and the NCSoft portfolio as a whole.
ANET are in an unenviable situation of having to rely on a single ageing product right now so to some extent I can understand them having to downgrade some things in order to maintain longer term objectives for the business in general. But if that means all we can really expect looking forward now is LW updates I do think it might struggle to keep large chunks of the playerbase suitably entertained for long enough periods of time through the update cycles, but time will tell I guess.
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> @"Vayne.8563" said:
> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > > THANK YOU!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > This is literally all I wanted to hear from the live event lol
> > > > > I knew season 5 was coming, but I really wanted to know that expansions were not being killed off and the game was going to rely entierly on living world going forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't expect Anet to announce expansions when they're not even in the works and they're not ready to move onto one but just knowing that they are open to making more of them for Gw2 is a massive piece of mind that will keep me personally as dedicated a player as I have been for years.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like the living world and I enjoy the living world, but I do not believe the living world is capable of sustaining the game indefinitely.
> > > > > Expansions are essential to the future of this game imo and that is a belief that isn't going to change, so this confirmation is something i've been wanting to hear for a good while now ^^
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm what exactly was confirmed, cos I never read any such thing tbh.
> > >
> > > That expansions are still on the table as future content for the game and that Anet is aware that many of us still want expansions for this game and are more than willing to pay for them should they make them.
> > > That's all ^^ and all I really wanted to hear at the event :)
> >
> > Your reading way too much into that.. it was clearly a politicians statement.. neither deny or confirm means nothing.
> > It's just a non answer, as others have said already.
>
> Many said the same thing before the first expansion was announced though. I said I thought they were working on an expansion, Anet said nothing about it, and many many months later, they finally announced it, after people were saying that Anet was ambiguous, or would have said something if that was the case.
>
> Anet isn't going to reveal this information before it's ready. Here's a possibility. Some people are in favor of making an expansion some aren't and there's an internal conflict, so they aren't going to say anything. We just don't have the information. But this is not the first time the bulk of the forum has said something that turned out to not be true.
>
> Sometimes it's not often the table means it's not off the table. It could just be a political answer. It could also be a genuine one. How you take it depends on how jaded you are.
Except ANET have said.. they aren't ... they are committed to LW for the foreseeable future... but of course things can and often do change, but as of right now no expacs is incoming and if they start now it will be at least 2 yrs but likely more as they are already full steam ahead bringing the first SAGA to our screens, which is going to be resource intensive for the 4 teams for the next 12 months at the very least.
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> @"kharmin.7683" said:
> > @"Tiviana.2650" said:
> > > @"Greg.7086" said:
> > > > @"Dami.5046" said:
> > > > The problem is, would people be happy with small updates for a couple odd years while it's worked on and be totally understanding?
> > > > Absolutely not.
> > >
> > > ^^ I would be happy even if they said a new expansion is coming in 2021/22 at least its C O M M U N I C A T I O N from Anet to their gaming Community that some further decent sized new content is coming, if even a long way off. It also demonstrates some sense of longevity of the game admist a growing black cloud of discombobulation.
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> > This as long as they tell us they are working on something either an expansion or expansion type content over time. People just want to know there will be more than just lws from now on.
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> And the backlash when they don't meet this target? I think that this is why they won't set a date or make promises.
I don't see anyone asking for a date.. that is obviously just not realistic at this stage.. they and I just want some form of commitment one way or the other instead of if, but, maybes and maybe nots.
At the very least give some indication as to what the plan is for the game after IBS, show there is some longer term plan beyond another LW "SAGA". 12 -18 Months is not long in MMO space, but it can begin to feel like forever if the content releases drift further apart without anything major or substantive replay value attached to what is included.
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> @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said:
> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > @"perilisk.1874" said:
> > > > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > > Strike Missions - cool, what are they, what do they entail, how do they fit with the Saga, what kind of mechanics are they offering up … hmmm no detail to be able to judge them on yet, so soon
> > >
> > > Well, there were always people clamoring for Easy Mode or Story Mode versions of Raids. Sounds like they're just going the other direction, and making Raid mode versions of story. Also, hopefully cutting down on the time to find a group, if not the time to find a good one. If the story versions of fights can actually properly introduce the mechanics, it might be a good idea? No need to rely on the benevolence of other players to train for mechanics, and you always have golems for rotations.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > But at the moment, we don't really know anything other than .. were getting some 10man instanced strike missions.. is the point, the rest is our own interpretations. Don't get me wrong I hope your right, it could sound interesting and could lead into other modes being developed on fromit.. so devil as always is in the detail, the key element we're lacking on.
>
> Just wondering...have you read the Release page (the Living World Magazine)? It offers more information.
Yeah, nice added idea I admit and that is what should of been put out at the event, it looks so much better quality promo material, perhaps with some interaction with those there to add some extra spice, but I still don't feel there is anything much to add in terms of detail.. we knew we were getting the Charr homeland and some peaks at map, the band.. the Khan -Ur sounds a bit more promising.. but again the Prologue doesn't at this time look to be more than a gap fill to give them more time.
Hopefully that isn't the case and from the 17th the cadence will keep to what we have become accustomed to and include more of that "expac type content we all want and not just LS biased, even if its by way of little acorns.... if not, be upfront I say.
Anyhow, 17th isn't too far away now, so it's a case of wait and find out, hope to be pleasantly blown away . and I will be the first to congratulate the devs when it does, for sure.
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> @"perilisk.1874" said:
> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > Strike Missions - cool, what are they, what do they entail, how do they fit with the Saga, what kind of mechanics are they offering up … hmmm no detail to be able to judge them on yet, so soon
>
> Well, there were always people clamoring for Easy Mode or Story Mode versions of Raids. Sounds like they're just going the other direction, and making Raid mode versions of story. Also, hopefully cutting down on the time to find a group, if not the time to find a good one. If the story versions of fights can actually properly introduce the mechanics, it might be a good idea? No need to rely on the benevolence of other players to train for mechanics, and you always have golems for rotations.
>
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But at the moment, we don't really know anything other than .. were getting some 10man instanced strike missions.. is the point, the rest is our own interpretations. Don't get me wrong I hope your right, it could sound interesting and could lead into other modes being developed on fromit.. so devil as always is in the detail, the key element we're lacking on.
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> @"perilisk.1874" said:
> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said:
> > > I consider Mounts 'expansion-level' content, and we got some of those in Living World Episodes.
> > > I don't know, anything new could be in an expansion; we get new things, sometimes, in Living World Episodes.
> > >
> > > Who gets to decide what is, or is not, 'expansion-level' content?
> >
> > At a stretch I am guessing the Strike Missions are what they think will pass for expac type content... trouble is there is so little to go on we simply have no idea., which is why I fear they might end up being nothing more than an instanced twist on World Bosses and Bounties.
>
> Judging by the new magazine, strike missions are basically just 10-person challenge modes for LS bosses?
>
> Ex-pac content:
> 1. New content types (adventures, bounties) - Strike missions would probably count?
> 2. New systems (mastery system, guild halls, mounts) - Remains to be seen. There have been smaller scale additions, like Ascended cooking, legendary sigils, and the upcoming build templates. It remains to be seen if something as major as masteries or mounts could be added through LS. Maybe they can repurpose combos for something groundbreaking.
> 3. New specs/skills - remains to be seen
> 4. New maps - of course we always get this. Some people might feel that expacs have better quality, but I think LS4 was on a similar level as PoF, on average (though some maps were subpar). But there's no real reason that maps can't be expac quality.
> 5. New story. Here, there is an unavoidable issue -- episodic content (LS) requires a certain type of story pacing. Expac can afford a more cinematic story progress and can afford to trade quantity for quality. Perhaps if LS introduced the necessary maps and systems, it would be possible to end the season with a final episode focused solely on story missions of that level of quality?
>
Exactly.. anything is possible, some likely will materialise for sure.. but it's all just so vague, which makes even talking around the LS somewhat unremarkable currently.. other than -
We have a new LS coming - great I actually enjoy LS, moreso when it is actually feels relevant.
We got a LW rebranding (ok cool and..)
We learned where we're going and Charr and Norn are going to be flavour of the week (tick.. already guessed a month ago by many of us),
It will be exploring lore aspects of several races (ok that is fine and dandy, for a some maybe, but how long will that keep us all suitably engrossed?)
New map.. or will it be maps or just a map broken up into parts as each piece of the Saga is relaeased… who knows for sure?
Build Templates... still coming (we knew this already)
Strike Missions - cool, what are they, what do they entail, how do they fit with the Saga, what kind of mechanics are they offering up … hmmm no detail to be able to judge them on yet, so soon
We get to fight another dragon (tick, had to be didn't it :))
Other news -
WvW… talk about that some more in the coming months.. cough
PvP.. ooh mini seasons in between seasons coming and a not so great looking armour (big reveal alert!)
The merchandising opens... now go get them hoodies, fluufy toys and some errm sketchy looking legging and top.
HoT is free to PoF owners and some vet freebies for those who already have HoT - ok, could help stimulate an uptick in new/returning players.. hopefully
ANET will be 20yrs old next year - ok that is worthy news and commendable for sure, when it arrives.
So to round up, were getting some LS updates via the new SAGA commencing on 17th with a prologue that includes something or nothing, followed sometime after by some more LS which might include this and that, but we don't know what, how, when or .. well, anything much really.
It could and should all sound great, can all sound intriguing but it kinda all sounds a bit.. empty and soulless at the moment especially when we speak of expansion type content.. so the big reveal, the in ya face live event didn't really live up to the hype both parties helped to generate imo.
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> @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > > > THANK YOU!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > This is literally all I wanted to hear from the live event lol
> > > > > I knew season 5 was coming, but I really wanted to know that expansions were not being killed off and the game was going to rely entierly on living world going forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't expect Anet to announce expansions when they're not even in the works and they're not ready to move onto one but just knowing that they are open to making more of them for Gw2 is a massive piece of mind that will keep me personally as dedicated a player as I have been for years.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like the living world and I enjoy the living world, but I do not believe the living world is capable of sustaining the game indefinitely.
> > > > > Expansions are essential to the future of this game imo and that is a belief that isn't going to change, so this confirmation is something i've been wanting to hear for a good while now ^^
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm what exactly was confirmed, cos I never read any such thing tbh.
> > >
> > > That expansions are still on the table as future content for the game and that Anet is aware that many of us still want expansions for this game and are more than willing to pay for them should they make them.
> > > That's all ^^ and all I really wanted to hear at the event :)
> >
> > Your reading way too much into that.. it was clearly a politicians statement.. neither deny or confirm means nothing.
> > It's just a non answer, as others have said already.
>
> Better than them saying nothing at all and leaving us concerned for possibly years that the game isnt ever getting another one.
> It doesn't matter that it's a non answer, it's just some piece of mind knowing that Anet knows what we want and is open to making it.
Your not getting it are you.. they didn't say anything, that's the whole point at least nothing we did not already know a year ago maybe.. that is everything is possible and nothing is possible.
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> @"Fenom.9457" said:
> That’s kinda concerning because it sounds like the cop out way to say there isn’t one, but then again there’s a chance they just don’t want to talk about the new one... I hope...
Maybe their financials just don't allow for one until such time as the financials can offer up the opportunity of tabling a notion internally... which may never actually be materialised if LW is expected to be the key to unlock the door.
I still consider climbing mount Everest to be on my to do list in the future, but until then I have to be content with trudging up and down my compost heap.. but its on the table for me.
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> @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > > @"Teratus.2859" said:
> > > THANK YOU!!!
> > >
> > > This is literally all I wanted to hear from the live event lol
> > > I knew season 5 was coming, but I really wanted to know that expansions were not being killed off and the game was going to rely entierly on living world going forward.
> > >
> > > I don't expect Anet to announce expansions when they're not even in the works and they're not ready to move onto one but just knowing that they are open to making more of them for Gw2 is a massive piece of mind that will keep me personally as dedicated a player as I have been for years.
> > >
> > > I like the living world and I enjoy the living world, but I do not believe the living world is capable of sustaining the game indefinitely.
> > > Expansions are essential to the future of this game imo and that is a belief that isn't going to change, so this confirmation is something i've been wanting to hear for a good while now ^^
> >
> > Hmmm what exactly was confirmed, cos I never read any such thing tbh.
>
> That expansions are still on the table as future content for the game and that Anet is aware that many of us still want expansions for this game and are more than willing to pay for them should they make them.
> That's all ^^ and all I really wanted to hear at the event :)
Your reading way too much into that.. it was clearly a politicians statement.. neither deny or confirm means nothing.
It's just a non answer, as others have said already.
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> @"Menadena.7482" said:
> Zero-expansion Mike?
>
> When GW2 first came out the announced plans were LW only. People screamed. Eventually they gave us HOT (before and after were a pretty long content drought). Then LW. Then an expansion. Then LW.
>
> Now we are getting more LW, just under another name. Granted the company has suffered a self-inflicted wound but it is like they learned nothing. Their big announcement did not even say they hoped to get back to expansions.
Well certainly the company suffered losses, though iirc the game release with approximately the same number on their headcount and they brought both LW updates and expacs so there is nothing to say that still cant happen. Sure they have lost some key people in certain roles, but that, as sad as it is, does offer the opportunity for those left to put themselves out there and show their mettle.
As for self inflicted, we don't know the ins and outs of the business, we don't know what was being asked of ANET by NCSoft leading up to what we now all know, with the added info relating to NCSoft suffering a decline across it's entire aging portfolio, which ANET are just one part of.
If anything I would say looking at the earnings reports going back, ANET have been relatively stable in comparison to other titles, but somewhere down the line decisions to increase headcounts and move staff to "other projects" absorbed some of that financial stability, which added to the declining revenues within the portfolio, hard decisions had to be made to keep things viable - that is nothing irregular.
As for the live event.. it was never meant to give indication of an expac go ahead it was about LS, the new "SAGA"
My disappointment with the event stems around the severe lack of information about .. well anything really, in fact the only clear info I got from it was what, where, how I can buy some Aurene fluff toys and some godawful looking leggings .
I seriously thought they would of wanted to showcase this new ideology of the game going forward centred around LW including what this "expac type content was going to look like.. pretty important I would of thought to back up their "we believe LW going forward can deliver expansion quality content". But it was.. just devoid of much of anything to talk about imo.
Having a new marketing twist on the name is cool and all, as is the delve into some of the games lore, but I got more of a feeling that it was more about plugging the next range of instruments coming to the gemstore by that stage.
So... forget they never mentioned expacs, they never really mentioned anything we can delve into... yet
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> @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said:
> I consider Mounts 'expansion-level' content, and we got some of those in Living World Episodes.
> I don't know, anything new could be in an expansion; we get new things, sometimes, in Living World Episodes.
>
> Who gets to decide what is, or is not, 'expansion-level' content?
At a stretch I am guessing the Strike Missions are what they think will pass for expac type content... trouble is there is so little to go on we simply have no idea., which is why I fear they might end up being nothing more than an instanced twist on World Bosses and Bounties.
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> @"Vayne.8563" said:
> > @"Arzurag.7506" said:
> > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said:
> > > Worst case scenario is that they introduce a tiny fraction of the map which is centered around the Charr and what looks like a celebration. The next episode would then expand the map into what we would usually see in a typical LS release.
> >
> > And then, it´s still missing the expansion-like content that they said they want to add with the next ls.
> > Maybe the charr know how to throw a party^^
>
> They said the expansion level content would come with the sesason. They didn't say it would come in episode 1 of the Season. It's like mounts were delivered in episodes 4 and 6 of Season 4. We had no idea we were getting them before episode one started.
SAGA... try to keep up Vayne!! :)
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> @"Teratus.2859" said:
> THANK YOU!!!
>
> This is literally all I wanted to hear from the live event lol
> I knew season 5 was coming, but I really wanted to know that expansions were not being killed off and the game was going to rely entierly on living world going forward.
>
> I don't expect Anet to announce expansions when they're not even in the works and they're not ready to move onto one but just knowing that they are open to making more of them for Gw2 is a massive piece of mind that will keep me personally as dedicated a player as I have been for years.
>
> I like the living world and I enjoy the living world, but I do not believe the living world is capable of sustaining the game indefinitely.
> Expansions are essential to the future of this game imo and that is a belief that isn't going to change, so this confirmation is something i've been wanting to hear for a good while now ^^
Hmmm what exactly was confirmed, cos I never read any such thing tbh.
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> @"zealex.9410" said:
> > @"Bloodstealer.5978" said:
> > Where exactly did you get the notion that a new expansion was on the table.. suggest editing your thread title tbh.
> > It is not like Mike Z was going to say nope, no expansion nada or yeah we're going to be putting that expansion out.. especially straight after the live event let down. Imagine all those people who just paid out for that event get home and hear some other announcement not thought worthy of their ears and cheers.
> > Nah just typical PR stuff to avoid any further disappointment or worse getting the community all feverish again over something they can't fulfil .. yet.
>
> English is not my first laguage, doesnt "on the table" in regards to something (in this case an expansion) mean that its being discussed/considered?
Nope it just means nothing is ruled out and nothing is ruled in.. it certainly doesn't mean an expansion is coming though for sure.
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Where exactly did you get the notion that a new expansion was on the table.. suggest editing your thread title tbh.
It is not like Mike Z was going to say nope, no expansion nada or yeah we're going to be putting that expansion out.. especially straight after the live event let down. Imagine all those people who just paid out for that event get home and hear some other announcement not thought worthy of their ears and cheers.
Nah just typical PR stuff to avoid any further disappointment or worse getting the community all feverish again over something they can't fulfil .. yet.
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> @"Dragon Priestess.9760" said:
> I'm not heterosexual either but I don't really see why this is a big deal. They have tonnes of more important things in the game to fix than the gay/straight ratio of characters.
>
> It feels really... shallow, to me, to care so much about something so unimportant.
>
> For example: as a Lesbian I'd LOVE to see more sexy lady armour, but it's not really that important, either.
>
> I'd rather they fix the quest and gameplay bugs the have that actually effect the game performance.
This.. sense can prevail I guess sometimes.
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> @"JpDelano.2580" said:
> Regarding the experience, i think it was good. I am a few months into the game, so no issues from me. The game is story driven so you why not tell a good story on stage.
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I agree, they could of told us a good story to reinforce the promo exposé, but they didn't, how could they when they are never willing to put out any kind of detail especially around content that was clearly nowhere near having any detail to discuss... it was imo a poor waste of time and money, poorly structured, lacking any real excitement and emotion from the people like Mike Z and then to close the event with an awful 10minutes merchandising and cosplay finale - where was the big banger firework to leave us all speechless...nah I would be seriously peeved if I had paid to go to that event it just lacked so much when considering the level of hype they put out and allowed the community to get feverish over.
Simply put it was just a lost opportunity to showcase something really special, to go beyond all the hype and blow us away, putting ANET and GW2 front and centre to the MMO world, then they could throw out those baited hooks whilst banging the drums as loud as they could... as much as I don't have any issues with pushing HoT for free, I wonder just how much of a genuine impact on the game right now that will really have, but hopefully it will meet with expectorations.
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> @"Ashantara.8731" said:
> > @"Zuldari.3940" said:
> > Still waiting for those account utility items. Looks like its been mainly cosmetics.
>
> Not true. Bank slot expansions, bag slot expansions etc. A lot of practical stuff. It's just not always being advertized on the main page.
Nah they have defo been advertised on the promo page ... bag slot and storage expander were still there earlier this morning, character slots have been and gone... no sign of shared slots at least until I check when I get back home later.
But they are all put on the promo page when they are put out for sale.
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Update - my 2FA is once again relinked but the GW2.com site or forums won't allow the completion of the authentification because pressing NEXT after entering the 6 digit code definitely does nothing now when using Internet Explorer.
Works fine now with MS Edge...
So I am of the mind this loss of functionality of the NEXT button on the GW2.com site has been messed up like other features of late following updates by Vanilla.
At least now my account and game access are secured again.
How does it make sense for a 7-year birthday gift to have LESS items than the 6-year birthday gifts?
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Well in fairness when I was five or six I used to get showered in gifts, nowadays though I just get cards predominantly, in fact it gets worse, I actually have to pay for my own birthday dinner and those I take to the restaurant with me :)