DanAlcedo.3281

PvE:

Mesmer

Ranger

Warrior

PvP:

Mesmer

Guard

Warrior

WvW:

Necro

Guard

Rev

(warrior)

(ele)

(Mesmer)

(Engi)

(Thief)

If that means we get a cool warrior rifle, then yes pls.

> @"Dediggefedde.4961" said:

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > **However!** We have perma Quickness with Elixer U and Applied Force.

> Usually I take final salvo and bullwark-gyro + blast gyro as well as EG.

> With superspeed you increase the passive healing of Rapid regeneration from 188 to 640/s.

> So you get ~530 heal on 5 people (►2680/s instead of 790/s)

> With quickness on medkit-1 you increase your active healing from 14k/s to 28k/s.

> This is a ton more healing, but I find the superspeed in a group fight a bit more useful, to be honest.

> But It is an interesting idea that I will try out. ^^

>

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > But why stop there when we have Medical Dispersion Field?

> > Backpack Regenerator = 226

> As far as I know, Backpack regenerator doesn't trigger MDF.

> Also, with the highest heal-stats and this amount of condiclear you should use comeback cure.

> Since it is applied when removing conditions and the condition-removal-system is distributing better over the zerg, there is a high chance of getting regeneration on the whole zerg by over-cleansing your group. This way it's possible to get 14kh/s on a zerg within ACs without quickness. Regeneration will tick as high as MDF in that case.

Yeah , noticed some inconsistencies with MDF.

The reason i did not take [Comback Cure] is that i only have 3 skills that "remove" condis.

* Medi pack 3

* Elixer Gun 3 + 5

I use Medi Pack 3 more for the Waterfield then activly trying to clean condis with it.

When im playing Heal Scrapper, i often get in the sutuation that i cant switch from Medi Pack to Elixergun, because every second im not using Medipack 1 i dont heal enough.

Basicly, my Warriors/Firebrand in my team think the have godmode when im behind them, so the moment i stop healing they die ...

But thats my server....

I think your right, i should change it to [Comback Cure].

> @"Ashantara.8731" said:

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > You dont even need hard CC.

>

> Never said you did.

>

> > @"Blocki.4931" said:

> > ALso the BONES that are scattered EVERYWHERE provide a stun that breaks it instantly.

>

> Never picked one up to try, to be honest. See? Learnt something new again, even after doing this mission a good dozen times. ;)

Ohh yeah. I was reading it like "You need a CC chain to break the bar" and not "You need 4 cc skills in the last phase for the 4 enemies".

My bad.

> @"Dawdler.8521" said:

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > Simply put: We are healing the 5 People in front of us for 35k per second.

>

> *In actual practice maybe 2k best case scenario per peep plus regen.

>

> I'm not gonna argue the theoretical healing of Scrapper vs Tempest because in my experience, its about as reasonable as achieving a "normal raid spec" 30k dps, I'll just reiterate what I said before: I find scrapper the more fun class and its mechanics for healing fairly simple (soothing mist tempest become too dull). That its more effective for cleansing and can theoretically heal more is just icing on the cake.

The true reason why Scrapper is the best Healer is that , not only has he the numbers , but no downtime on Healing.

If i see someone on 10% Life i can just Jump / Run to him and heal him up.

If im a Firebrand and my Healbook is on CD? Good luck healing him from 10 to 100% in a good time.

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> > > > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > > > The best healer (raw heal pet second) is scrapper.

> > > do you know the actual numbers on this? im curious. a while ago I did a bunch of math and came up with rev - 13800 hps and ele 9900 hps, assuming weapon swaps.

> > >

> > > also OP druid has some good heals.

> >

> > With my Build. Holding 1 in the Medi Pack , if you hit 5 targets , around 30k heal per second (6x5).

> > And i dont count heal from Medical Dispersion Field/ other traits,

> >

> > 30K is only Medi Pack 1 and Regen.

> >

> > Also Soothing Mist Tempest is around 12k per second just from Soothing Mist alone.

>

> lol no. you need to rethink maths.

Lets start with

**Heal Tempest**.

**Stats.**

* Healpower 1997 full Buffed or 2177 if you are holding a Frost Bow ( For the meme lords here)

* Outgoing Healing 58.4%

With Soothing Power, Soothing Mist will heal for

Soothing Mist (10s): 1,600 (2.0) and its healing per second increases to

Healing: 160 (0.2)

(160 + (1997 * 0.2)) * 1.584 = 886 Healing per second.

Soothing Mist get applied ever 3 seconds and last 10 seconds.

If you are not in a group you will get this effect on more people.

4 People = 3544 HpS / 4103 HpS (If you count yourself)

8 People = 7088 HpS / 7647 HpS

12 People = 10632 HpS / 11191 HpS

....

Be basic idea here is that, when you are not in a group/squad you get your Soothing Mist effect on more people then 5.

_>Soothing Mist get applied ever 3 seconds and last 10 seconds.<_

**Heal Scrapper**

**Stats.**

* Healpower 2178 full Buffed

* Outgoing Healing 66.74%

Med Blaster

Heal allies with several pulses of healing energy. Heals more for each boon on that ally.

Base Healing: 70 (0.2)?

Healing for Each Boon: 11 (0.0125)?

Number of Targets: 5

Pulses: 3

Range: 600

(70 + (2178 * 0.2)) * 1.6674 = 843.

(11 + (2718 * 0.0125)) * 1.6674 = 63.73 ( Rounded 64)

Lets say 5 Boons on the Target.

(64 * 5) + 843 = 1163 per Pulse.

3 Pulses = 3489

On 5 Player = 17445 Healing with a Casttime of 1.25 Seconds.

**However!** We have perma Quickness with Elixer U and Applied Force.

So if im correct thats 17455 Healing in 0.625 Seconds.

Aka: 28k Healing per second.

Regen (Perma) =670 HpS x 5 Persons

Pressing 1 + Regen =More then 31k HpS.

But why stop there when we have Medical Dispersion Field?

(Outgoing Healing works with that Trait)

Our Selfheal:

Regen = 402

Backpack Regenerator = 226

Rapid Regeneration (Swiftness) = 188

We heal ourself for 816 HpS.

(816 / 2) * 1.6674 = 680 Hps.

**End Result:**

If we have one person infront of us and he has 5 Boons, he gets healt for:

680 + 670 + 5582 = 6932 Healing Per Second.

Simply put: We are healing the 5 People in front of us for 35k per second.

> @"shortcake.8659" said:

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > I played every class(except thief) as a healer in wvw over the years, multiple times on different builds. Firebrand is your standart „healer“ but its actual heal output is not as good as people claim. Heal Rev (glint) is not worth using and (tablet) is a good healer numberwise but to clunky. Tempest (Aura) is „Meh“. Its heal output is low and its melee only. Tempest (Soothing Mist) is strong but you need to stay in water all the time and can not be in a group for its full effect. The best healer (raw heal pet second) is scrapper. Its actually way to strong if build right. However, other healer can get SOME killes while a Heal scrapper that does his job will never see a dmg number aka no loot. The rest like warrior/necro is not worth talking about. For my tipp: Just play firebrand. If you want actuall healing then maybe play Tempest ( soothing mist version) but you have to understand how soothing mist works to make it worth it. If you dont care about loot play scrapper. (If i had to play serious/focus on winning , i would play scrapper)

>

> scrapper isn't THAT bad for loot, just use hammer 5 when you see a good opportunity and fumigate during pushes, hammer 2 as you pass downs. if the enemy team is wiping, you can also hammer 3 through their clump too for pretty good tagging. yeah, it's overall pretty bad on getting bags, but you can at least get a fair amount if you switch out of med kit a little bit when you have a chance.

You NEVER want to be on Hammer. You mostly Camp Medi Pack and use Elixer Gun/Morter Kit for Burst Heal/Condi Clear.

Ever second you dont use Medi Pack one is a wasted second.

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > The best healer (raw heal pet second) is scrapper.

> do you know the actual numbers on this? im curious. a while ago I did a bunch of math and came up with rev - 13800 hps and ele 9900 hps, assuming weapon swaps.

>

> also OP druid has some good heals.

With my Build. Holding 1 in the Medi Pack , if you hit 5 targets , around 30k heal per second (6x5).

And i dont count heal from Medical Dispersion Field/ other traits,

30K is only Medi Pack 1 and Regen.

Also Soothing Mist Tempest is around 12k per second just from Soothing Mist alone.

I played every class(except thief) as a healer in wvw over the years, multiple times on different builds. Firebrand is your standart „healer“ but its actual heal output is not as good as people claim. Heal Rev (glint) is not worth using and (tablet) is a good healer numberwise but to clunky. Tempest (Aura) is „Meh“. Its heal output is low and its melee only. Tempest (Soothing Mist) is strong but you need to stay in water all the time and can not be in a group for its full effect. The best healer (raw heal pet second) is scrapper. Its actually way to strong if build right. However, other healer can get SOME killes while a Heal scrapper that does his job will never see a dmg number aka no loot. The rest like warrior/necro is not worth talking about. For my tipp: Just play firebrand. If you want actuall healing then maybe play Tempest ( soothing mist version) but you have to understand how soothing mist works to make it worth it. If you dont care about loot play scrapper. (If i had to play serious/focus on winning , i would play scrapper)

I would abuse the kitten out of that system. Lets see how high the numbers can get until the UI breaks. I think i know why.

What i do with my Luck? Hording it until Anet creates a good Luck sink. I have currenty 18k + exo Luck

> @"Ashantara.8731" said:

> > @"Menadena.7482" said:

> > > @"Ashantara.8731" said:

> > > Maybe the firts time around, but once you have played through a fight, you should know the mechanics and can do it more relaxed the next time around, being able to listen to dialogue and focus not only on the fight.

> >

> > Umm, why would I willingly do a story again that gave me grief the previous time?

>

> Well, I can't speak for you, but I do tend to play the story with all my characters. And the story missions' fight mechanics usually don't take that many attempts to grasp since, once you know what attacks to expect, you can counter them all.

>

> Also, "grief"? You fail, you learn, you do much better next time. :) That's how it goes with gaming challenges at least. ;)

>

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > I wonder if people think Joko was hard... He has so low HP, i did not get halve his dialogue because he melted so fast.

>

> To be fair, and in defense of everyone complaining, that fight only goes fast if you know that you require (or happen to have equipped) skills that can provide four times CC in a quick chain. ;) Otherwise, it will take longer, naturally, as you wait for the skills' cooldown, because his Echos (or whatever those "illusions" were called) can only be dispersed by using a CC skil on them. Also, you only learn that the vents on the floor prevent you from receiving damage by those "scarab swarms" he casts after you stepped on them (or by carefully observing your environment and notice that none of them are to be seen on top of the vent grids).

>

> And that - to get back to my point - I learnt _during_ the fight. You (not you, but the people complaining) can't expect to cheese every fight right away if you haven't tried it at least once to see what it's about. And that's part of the fun for many, but apparently not all players. I think what the latter are asking for is story content without skill challenge - but then it wouldn't be GW anymore, IMO. If you want story without challenges, you should read a good book instead - most gaming genres are about challenges.

You dont even need hard CC. A normal cripple breaks the bar. The random CC from most weapons is enough.

No need for chain CC or something.

> @"Rodrick.1942" said:

> > @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > > @"Red Haired Savage.5430" said:

> > > Well, TBH warrior has several things that need re-worked. Listed in no particular order or full suggestions of what needs changed.

> > > * Banners/banner trait

> > > * Rifle

> > > * Sword (main hand and offhand)

> > > * Adrenaline and how it works/operates, I'd honestly like to see more F1-F3 skills (maybe F1 uses 1 bar of adrenaline, F2 uses 2 bars, and F3 uses 3 bars), but then they'd need to re-look into berserker and spell breaker

> > > * Hammer trait line

> > > * Shouts/Shout trait line

> > > * Warhorn, they changed how it works yet I still don't see people using this, honestly I don't feel that what they did for warhorn was a buff it felt like more of a sidestep

> > > * Daggers/Dagger trait line

> > > * Brave stride trait

> > > * GS a few skills need looked at (100b is probably the main one that needs looked at)

> > > * Mace (mainly offhand skill 5)

> > > * Mending to a physical skill

> > > * Lack of an elite stance

> > > * Dual wielding trait

> > > * Entire tactics trait line needs looked into

> > > * Power berserker

> > >

> >

> > make winds of disentchantment a shout :^)

>

> > @"TheSlothArmada.6709" said:

> > - Arc Divider 1/2 cast time PVE only

> > also increase its damage PVE only

> >

> > - Headbutt 1/2 cast time PVE only

> >

> > - Berserk Mode count as level 3 burst. . .

> >

> > - Smash brawler primal burst recharge reduced 33% PVE only

> >

> > - Fatal Frenzy make it pulse its boons or atleast quickness (definitely not asking cause of reaper. . . this one is a greedy request. . . probably make it PVE only too)

> >

> > - Blood Reaction make it give you the 14% ferocity bonus when you have a boon like quickness or fury cause otherwise spellbreaker will always be able to gain its 14% bonus far easier than berserker. . .

> >

> > also not only for berserker but make eviscerate/decapitate work with quickness and reduce its ugly. . . aftercast idk it always feels so slow

> > also increase decapitate damage. . .

> > and also not for berserker but it'd be cool if signet of might granted 300 ferocity with instant cast. . . like thief signet but with ferocity instead. signet of fury precision is too valuable to give up

> >

> > Berserker utlities need to be looked . . . but probably won't matter since signets and physical are too good. . . or make them count as physical?

> >

> > Boom now we can play cool sounding berserker without using lungbow and swerd/terch

> > . . . and what I mean by this is play it without being outclassed by spellbreaded and not being comparable uncomfortable to use

>

> Why dont you try to play spb in pve instead? If you're here to seek more damage.

Why does a Elite Spec, that gives you a defensive Ability, more Dmg then a Elite Spec that turns you into a Berserker? Spb only has more Dps because Anet deleted Power Berserker from the game and wanted to sell more copys of PoF. I mean they choose to give Spb more +%Dmg after PoF launch instead of bringing Power Zerker back.

I wonder if people think Joko was hard... He has so low HP, i did not get halve his dialogue because he melted so fast.

> @"Dawdler.8521" said:

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > And before people tell me im exaggerating. Nope.

> > It was crazy.

>

> Then post a video and prove it.

>

> If he was cheating thats a full on hack, not macros. Not even the absolute best macro mesmer can go 1v7 competent people. Vs 7 incompetent players that are afk? Maybe.

I dont think i will download a Video Programm for something that happends only ones and was obviously cheating.

Also, all 7 player were aktivly trying to kill him because that was not the only fight and we wanted him to get out of our third in EBG.

Like i said. I have never seen something that crazy before.

His Clones respawned the moment i killed them on the same location.

Also his Mirror effect refreshed even when he was not using a skill ( atleast looked like it)

We had a Mesmer in WvW ones that won a 7vs1.

* He took only 3k from my CoR.

* Killed a Full Mintrel Firebrand in under 1 second.

* Had around 75% Mirror Uptime.

* Moved 3k range in 1 second.

* Unending supply of clones.

* He used Sword/X + Staff and Feedback.

Im 100% sure he was cheating because i have never seen something like this before.

And before people tell me im exaggerating. Nope.

It was crazy.

Reaper is a Tank now. I cant believe it! Why did no one tell me!

> @"RedShark.9548" said:

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > Why is it that all of the sudden everyone wants a berzerker rework? I talked about this for months and people always told me how stupid i am. But yes, berzerker needs a rework

>

> ha, dan always a step ahead and misunderstood :*

<3

An Army of Scourges with infinite stab? Ohhh Lord Save us all.

Reaper is melee . Scourge is Range. Reaper could do 3 Times the dmg and would still Not be Meta in wvw.

> @"Eleazar.9478" said:

> > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said:

> > The Hot Meta was waaaaaay worse then PoF. Unnerf DH longbow? Epidemic? Old condi shout necro? 100% Dmg reduction? Unnerfed CoR that oneshotted full soldier gear Guards and had 15targets and double Hits? Unnerfed boonchare Mesmer? The kitten staff burn guard? The condi stealth meta? There was so much wrong with HoT WvW. Please put down the nostalgia Glases. I would never trade the PoF Meta for that.

>

> Literally all of those builds are still in the game and are just even stronger now. (Just switch the elite specs and boon mesmer for firebrand) Lol the condition stealth build was a meme, now is power perma stealth getting 1 shoted out of stealth has never been so prevelant.

>

>

> You literally need a spreadsheet to understand all the random kitten aoes and efffects in the game now. And it's all scourges and firbrands now before you could share have a comp without those two now youfn need them. Roaming is even worse as there's still a crap ton of passives and Anet's too scared to nerf them in wvw "because there's way too much aoes in wvw" their words. Not to mention you just get super bursted by everything now. Once your stunbreaks are on CD your kitten. (Which kitten near happens in the first few seconds of team fights)

>

> And hell at least condi reaper had to be in melee range and could be countered very easily by your standard support tempest. Lol have you seen the new power reaper talk about reaper on crack.

>

> It's out of kitten control. Had they implemented less aoes and had the specs be more single target maybe it would be better but dude it's all insta teleport rezes

>

>

None of the builds i talked about are still in the game. If they were, People would scream for nerfs. Can you her immun to Power dmg and that permanent? Can you be also immun to condi dmg thanks to old diamant Skin? Can you still Spam 30+ bleeds (aoe) with no tells as a Single necro and then aoe bomb guildgroups with epidemic? Where is your Boon Mesmer that can give all boons permanent for a 50man zerg(ok you Need like 3). And i did not mean the thief build. I mean guild Squads playing the condi bomb from stealth. Believe me. HoT was the worst Meta we ever had.

> @"Edgy McEdgelord.4790" said:

> Thats what they like to call those small event chains with horribly upscaling and no loot whatsoever, yeah. HoT did it way better on that matter.

I know PoF has Meta Events. „PoF has Meta Events?“ Is a Meme. But go and ask the Common gw2 Player if PoF has Meta Events.

Thief = Single Target /// Ele = Aoe Range cleave /// i dont See the Problem here

PoF has Meta Events?

If you could make a balance patch, what would you had changed?