Shiyo.3578 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 If you stand on the cart you can't be knocked back so if your strategy relies on knocking the enemy off the node to decap(which was their strategy) your strategy is invalidated just because someone is exploiting terrain. It's essentially perma-stab for free vs knockbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.9387 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > If you stand on the cart you can't be knocked back so if your strategy relies on knocking the enemy off the node to decap(which was their strategy) your strategy is invalidated just because someone is exploiting terrain. > > It's essentially perma-stab for free vs knockbacks. Its also been in the game for 8 years... Its also only viable vs a build that does so little damage you can survive against it by standing still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 The duration of a bug being in the game is irrelevant. A real tournament punishes for using such tactics or at least discusses them, instead of "Unlucky". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felincyriac.5981 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Just using the terrain don't see what's wrong. Up to the team to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 wait so enemy sits in a cart to not be knocked back by druid and thats the exploit? xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felincyriac.5981 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 what's next no-port spots are also exploits to u? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"felincyriac.5981" said: > what's next no-port spots are also exploits to u? enemy hides behind the wall to not get shot, hes abusing the terrain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 No, LOSing is not an exploit. Sitting on a cart to be immune to knockbacks is. Sadly, nothing will happen and people will continue to find more things to exploit until something finally happens. No reason to take these tournaments seriously until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > No, LOSing is not an exploit. Sitting on a cart to be immune to knockbacks is. > > Sadly, nothing will happen and people will continue to find more things to exploit until something finally happens. No reason to take these tournaments seriously until then. You going to answer my question or not? Which match at which stage of the tournament was this at? Can't find this match and any of the VoDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen.1327 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > No, LOSing is not an exploit. Sitting on a cart to be immune to knockbacks is. > > Sadly, nothing will happen and people will continue to find more things to exploit until something finally happens. No reason to take these tournaments seriously until then. it's there for that purpose, it's not an exploit there is many other spots on other maps to use to your advantage as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McPero.3287 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > If you stand on the cart you can't be knocked back so if your strategy relies on knocking the enemy off the node to decap(which was their strategy) your strategy is invalidated just because someone is exploiting terrain. > > It's essentially perma-stab for free vs knockbacks. https://imgur.com/buTG1mO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > wait so enemy sits in a cart to not be knocked back by druid and thats the exploit? xd I mean, shadowfall knew they were going to do that again but didn't switch to a dps build. Bunkering with burst weapon is also something only ranger can do, imagine greatsword bunker mesmer actually working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"McPero.3287" said: > > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > > If you stand on the cart you can't be knocked back so if your strategy relies on knocking the enemy off the node to decap(which was their strategy) your strategy is invalidated just because someone is exploiting terrain. > > > > It's essentially perma-stab for free vs knockbacks. > > https://imgur.com/buTG1mO  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymnad.9023 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > > No, LOSing is not an exploit. Sitting on a cart to be immune to knockbacks is. > > > > Sadly, nothing will happen and people will continue to find more things to exploit until something finally happens. No reason to take these tournaments seriously until then. > > You going to answer my question or not? Which match at which stage of the tournament was this at? > > Can't find this match and any of the VoDs at 5h46min48s or 7h31min33s - 7h32min30s. And this is pretty stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aelska.4609 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > My first impression is that blatant exploits are allowed and no punishments are given. > https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663499079803863071/718688444012036116/unknown.png > > It's a joke to consider this a "tournament". I have followed that part on Teapot stream and I really could not figure out what they were so upset against. Plenty of other nodes have fences you can be projected against without the point getting uncapped. This cart is a bit more extreme as it prevents the knockback from 3 directions, but it also forces you to remain in a tiny spot. Any player would just dps him the hell out of that area. If you play a build that has the sole purpose of exploiting its CC output to uncap/cap a point and to bunker it, yes it can be infuriating to be countered as easily. But you are the idiot trying to abuse the system at the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"aymnad.9023" said: > > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > > > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > > > No, LOSing is not an exploit. Sitting on a cart to be immune to knockbacks is. > > > > > > Sadly, nothing will happen and people will continue to find more things to exploit until something finally happens. No reason to take these tournaments seriously until then. > > > > You going to answer my question or not? Which match at which stage of the tournament was this at? > > > > Can't find this match and any of the VoDs > > at 5h46min48s or 7h31min33s - 7h32min30s. And this is pretty stupid. Thank you!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youle.5824 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 To the few claiming that sitting in cart is an exploit, if you hadnt noticed on most nodes theres a spot you can stand where knockback wont push you off node. 80% of the nodes have this and its very much intended as a counterplay by using environement, which is a big part of gw2 pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymnad.9023 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"youle.5824" said: > To the few claiming that sitting in cart is an exploit, if you hadnt noticed on most nodes theres a spot you can stand where knockback wont push you off node. 80% of the nodes have this and its very much intended as a counterplay by using environement, which is a big part of gw2 pvp. Not really? Those spots are not present on every node + they just prevent you from being pushed too far away from the node in one direction, not from moving at all. Saying this is fine and the same would be lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > 5 you can make necro of any kind work finally. it only took 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Cart is not allowed, congratulations guys, you did it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Today's games have been real close. Fun to watch. Its been said before but the energy from Teapot and Roy really turn things up another notch too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > Today's games have been real close. Fun to watch. Its been said before but the energy from Teapot and Roy really turn things up another notch too. Roy's been on absolute fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPUlisses.8756 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 The spam and links to watch Mota is really annoying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotte in space.2158 Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 Yeah Roy and Teapot were great. Most frequent sentence in their commentaries : . . . . and here comes the glyph ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 > @"hotte in space.2158" said: > Yeah Roy and Teapot were great. Most frequent sentence in their commentaries : . . . . and here comes the glyph ! Often followed by it being interrupted and some hype around that. It became apparent the longer the MOTA went on how important interrupting it was and how teams would pivot someone to do this. Especially in the final match. Its interesting to watch for me. Also the pre-casting of a 2s cast time skill to get the instant res is pretty entertaining and I felt showed skill and coordination. There were also a lot of times that even getting the glyph res didnt change the outcome of the engagement. Also i understand why CMC doesn't hate them. You're technically fighting a utility down the entire time _until_ someone goes down. If you don't get value from the skill then the opportunity cost is completely wasted and you're not at full capacity for the entire match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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