My Revent build: The Rouge

[Cheshire King.6970]

I need someone to look thought on the builds I made for my character. I will be doing mostly PvE stuff in case you asked. I will also tell you a bit about the characters I like to think up for them, and I do need help thinking of names for them.

Born blind or somthing an accident case her blindness, she hated not being able to do anything because of it and tryst to get her eyes to fix. It seems hopeless until she started to hear voices. Realizing this where the legends, she begins to learn the Revenant's ways and uses them as her eye to sly foes as part of the Order of Whispers. I need help to decide which college she would go to and what her first invitation should be.

What I would like to do is play her like a rogue class that wears heavy armor using the Assassins and Demond legends as a standard [Revenant ](http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?PmEBwylflhQMsIyjJRdMIijBSkMBigD1k6yF-zRIYb8XCWPA-e)or [Renegade](http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?Pm0AUlflhQMsIyjJRdMIijBSkMBigju0/zA-zRRYWBzG1vyoxUN3qytB-e).

[Aeolus.3615]

Assassin and deamon does not combine that much, everything else i can imagine working well.

 

I like to theme toons as well to certain rpg'ish feeling, these 2 armor stats imo what i think it would help renegade and assassin at same time

 

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAwylxQLMPaj1RaMOKjRSjMCygJ/l/zF-zVJYwRD/I4fA-w

 

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmABwylflxQIMPKi1RSMOCiRSgMCSgJ/l/7E-zVJYuRD/I4fA-w

[RaidsAreEasyAF.8652]

> @"Aeolus.3615" said:

> Assassin and deamon does not combine that much, everything else i can imagine working well.

>

> I like to theme toons as well to certain rpg'ish feeling, these 2 armor stats imo what i think it would help renegade and assassin at same time

>

> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAwylxQLMPaj1RaMOKjRSjMCygJ/l/zF-zVJYwRD/I4fA-w

 

 

Why Bloodfury when your only source of bleeding is razorclaw? If you don't spec into condition damage it just won't be worth casting. I also wouldn't go diviner for solo pve. If you go for group pve you will take Righteous Rebel. If you don't do group pve vindication will always pull ahead of lasting legacy.

[Aeolus.3615]

> @"RaidsAreEasyAF.8652" said:

> > @"Aeolus.3615" said:

> > Assassin and deamon does not combine that much, everything else i can imagine working well.

> >

> > I like to theme toons as well to certain rpg'ish feeling, these 2 armor stats imo what i think it would help renegade and assassin at same time

> >

> > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAwylxQLMPaj1RaMOKjRSjMCygJ/l/zF-zVJYwRD/I4fA-w

>

>

> Why Bloodfury when your only source of bleeding is razorclaw? If you don't spec into condition damage it just won't be worth casting. I also wouldn't go diviner for solo pve. If you go for group pve you will take Righteous Rebel. If you don't do group pve vindication will always pull ahead of lasting legacy.

 

This is the correct setup guess i messewd up by editing some link i had,sorry:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAwylxQLMPaj1RaMOKjRSjMCygJ/l+7F-zVJYwRD/I4fA-w

 

High boon duration means u will have perma alacrity and if ur in a team your tem will have perma alacrity as well, -20% on the skills CD basicly, and will increase allof the boon uptime as well.

Lasting legacy(Renegade trait) has some sinergy with Notoriety(Assassin trait), while Notoriety will make ur migh stronger in power gain LLegacy will improve boost might gain, easilly achieving perma 25 might.

 

Note:IMO th eonly reason to use Renegade is in condi/hybrid bow build or the high boon duration for alacrity to make all cd go faster being in solo or team play, IMO renegade is a weird elite setup but stil way way wayl better than the cant do nothing alone outside pve called Dragon Hunter XD.

 

This is what i use for plebs pve(since my pve is only story episodes)on my wuxia based toon:)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmwAwyZlxQKMPyi1RXMOCjRSiMCqgJ/lf7G-z1QYhoBvjI2o0sAaHC1jgMJg/Vp8A-w

 

This is what im using on my Deamon condi renegade atm(another wuxia based toon :)), works very well with plaguedoctor stats as well with marshal stats.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmwAkeZlhQLsIajJRaMIKjBSjMBygDzS9TF-zVJYsRHfJ49A-w

[RaidsAreEasyAF.8652]

> @"Aeolus.3615" said:

> > @"RaidsAreEasyAF.8652" said:

> > > @"Aeolus.3615" said:

> > > Assassin and deamon does not combine that much, everything else i can imagine working well.

> > >

> > > I like to theme toons as well to certain rpg'ish feeling, these 2 armor stats imo what i think it would help renegade and assassin at same time

> > >

> > > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAwylxQLMPaj1RaMOKjRSjMCygJ/l/zF-zVJYwRD/I4fA-w

> >

> >

> > Why Bloodfury when your only source of bleeding is razorclaw? If you don't spec into condition damage it just won't be worth casting. I also wouldn't go diviner for solo pve. If you go for group pve you will take Righteous Rebel. If you don't do group pve vindication will always pull ahead of lasting legacy.

>

> This is the correct setup guess i messewd up by editing some link i had,sorry:

> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAwylxQLMPaj1RaMOKjRSjMCygJ/l+7F-zVJYwRD/I4fA-w

>

> High boon duration means u will have perma alacrity and if ur in a team your tem will have perma alacrity as well, -20% on the skills CD basicly, and will increase allof the boon uptime as well.

> Lasting legacy(Renegade trait) has some sinergy with Notoriety(Assassin trait), while Notoriety will make ur migh stronger in power gain LLegacy will improve boost might gain, easilly achieving perma 25 might.

>

> Note:IMO th eonly reason to use Renegade is in condi/hybrid bow build or the high boon duration for alacrity to make all cd go faster being in solo or team play, IMO renegade is a weird elite setup but stil way way wayl better than the cant do nothing alone outside pve called Dragon Hunter XD.

>

> This is what i use for plebs pve(since my pve is only story episodes)on my wuxia based toon:)

> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmwAwyZlxQKMPyi1RXMOCjRSiMCqgJ/lf7G-z1QYhoBvjI2o0sAaHC1jgMJg/Vp8A-w

>

> This is what im using on my Deamon condi renegade atm(another wuxia based toon :)), works very well with plaguedoctor stats as well with marshal stats.

> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmwAkeZlhQLsIajJRaMIKjBSjMBygDzS9TF-zVJYsRHfJ49A-w

 

That's the thing though, Vindication provides more might for yourself without even having to spend the time pressing a button. You also won't have perma alacrity unless you play either RR or with Salvation and ventari. And if you're in a group that needs might sure, LL is better. But so is AP instead of notoriety. Idk. Maybe I care too much about min maxing for this

[Cheshire King.6970]

> @"Aeolus.3615" said:

> Assassin and deamon does not combine that much, everything else I can imagine working well.

>

> I like to theme toons as well to certain rpg'ish feeling, these 2 armor stats imo what I think it would help renegade and assassin at same time

>

> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmgAwylxQLMPaj1RaMOKjRSjMCygJ/l/zF-zVJYwRD/I4fA-w

>

> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmABwylflxQIMPKi1RSMOCiRSgMCSgJ/l/7E-zVJYuRD/I4fA-w

 

Well Aeolus I will say you build seems interesting but the gare in it doesn't seem like something I would go for but It has inspired me to make a few changes to it that I think you might like http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmwAkyVlhQLsIajJRaMIKjBSjMBygD1k/zF-zVJYoR3fZUQq2VV59A-w

 

 

[LucianTheAngelic.7054]

> @"Cheshire King.6970" said:

> I need someone to look thought on the builds I made for my character. I will be doing mostly PvE stuff in case you asked. I will also tell you a bit about the characters I like to think up for them, and I do need help thinking of names for them.

> Born blind or somthing an accident case her blindness, she hated not being able to do anything because of it and tryst to get her eyes to fix. It seems hopeless until she started to hear voices. Realizing this where the legends, she begins to learn the Revenant's ways and uses them as her eye to sly foes as part of the Order of Whispers. I need help to decide which college she would go to and what her first invitation should be.

> What I would like to do is play her like a rogue class that wears heavy armor using the Assassins and Demond legends as a standard [Revenant ](http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?PmEBwylflhQMsIyjJRdMIijBSkMBigD1k6yF-zRIYb8XCWPA-e)or [Renegade](http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?Pm0AUlflhQMsIyjJRdMIijBSkMBigju0/zA-zRRYWBzG1vyoxUN3qytB-e).

 

Depending on how optimal you want to be, your Mallyx/Shiro build *is actually really close to one of the two variations of the meta build for Condi Renegade.* You would just need different gear setups. Tbh, neither of your gear setups are particularly optimal and will ultimately hold you back, even in open world (especially the Carrion setup you've got on the non-renegade build). If you're set on doing condi damage, then definitely try to get a full viper gear setup. *Grieving gear is okay at best in PvE* since you do lose out on a lot of damage since most attempts at "hybrid" damage in this game don't work well due to a bunch of various factors; really you'll want to choose either Power or Condi and go from there. With a full Viper setup you'd do best with Nightmare runes (meta, highest optimal damage) or Torment runes (for massive sustain, not meta but really good if you're having trouble surviving) or even Traveler runes (extra movement speed). Also Charged Mists is absolutely better than Roiling Mists for any Renegade build since Renegade gets 33% extra crit while it's endurance bar is full and the extra 25 energy is a godsend once you learn how to proc it reliably. You also don't really need to crit as much as a condi build since almost all your damage comes from condi application instead of % increase crit damage. Also for open world I'd recommend Vindication for the grandmaster renegade trait as it's an amazing source of constant might generation. Lasting Legacy is better in group play, though, when other players are providing your 25 stacks of might.

 

If you want to crossreference your build with the current Mallyx/Shiro meta build, you can check it out here: https://snowcrows.com/raids/builds/revenant/renegade/condition/

If you're planning on mostly doing open world, there are some trait tweaks (or rune tweaks) you can make that will make your open world experience better, such as my suggestions above (i.e. Vindication over Lasting Legacy, or Incensed Response over Spirit Boon).

[Aeolus.3615]

> @"RaidsAreEasyAF.8652" said:

>(snip)

> That's the thing though, Vindication provides more might for yourself without even having to spend the time pressing a button. You also won't have perma alacrity unless you play either RR or with Salvation and ventari. And if you're in a group that needs might sure, LL is better. But so is AP instead of notoriety. Idk. Maybe I care too much about min maxing for this

 

With full diviner or wanderer and lidership rune if i recall one can achieve perma alacrity.

 

Even with plaguedotctor u can have perma alacrity and perma resistance.

[Yasai.3549]

[Try this.](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmwAwyZlxQIMPKi1RSMOCiRSgMCSgD1k2yG-zRRYBRHIG+SptEIzIo0QoiCQtB-e)

 

It's a PvE variation of what I use in WvW with the similar sort of "Armored Assassin" theme in mind.

 

What it offers :

- Equally high Durability and Offensive capabilities.

- Very self sufficient, and is capable of sustaining themselves through HoT and Life Siphons.

- Shiro offers offensive skills and damage, Mallyx offers utilities like CC for breaking bars, healing, and combating a Revenant's one weakness, which is Condition damage.

- Both Legends feature a fairly strong Upkeep for sustained damage and cleaving (For PvE Champion Points and Champion mobs)

 

Corruption traitline offers alot of damage reduction and HoT traits, as well as giving Resistance whenever yu swap a legend through Invoke Torment.

Invoke Torment also deals a decent amount of damage in an AoE when it procs.

 

Devastation traitline offers alot of damage boosters as well as allow Vulnerability applications from Sword auto attacks and Shackling Wave to give Battle Scars, which will make up a large part of yur sustain.

 

Invocation traitline offers quality of life sort of additions (Like Fury, Swiftness and Quickness when swapping to Shiro) , as well as allow yu to put out more damage passively.

[DarkEmiLupus.2876]

The rogue*