ekarat.1085 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 If so many people are making money selling their bags, then people have to be paying that money to get the bags. Who is doing that and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynn.1659 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 People that have nothing better to do with gold are buying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirlias.8104 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Speculation for next halloween or Gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakaru.6583 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 ToT bags get cheaper at the end of halloween, buy 2 bank slots worth of bags, wait a few months, list, and profit. Maybe half a silver per bag, but the speed at which orders fill make it worth it. 250 times 50c, times a bank slot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzChevalerie.1035 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I just want stacks of toilet paper. Or more seriously, Hoping to get infusions worth ~500g and the other auras you can turn to infusion at about 200g each or the endless bat brew required for nightfury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 > @ekarat.1085 said: > If so many people are making money selling their bags, then people have to be paying that money to get the bags. > > Who is doing that and why? > * People who hope to be luckier than average & get high value loot for less than market price. * People who like the frisson of excitement that comes anticipating getting a 'good' drop. * People who are speculating that the current ToT prices are far below their future prices, if not in 3-6 months, then perhaps next year (if ANet substantially changes the drop tables). * People looking to establish drop rate data (at least two people have published results on 100k bags each; I'm sure there are others who have done the same). * People who... how can I say this delicately... math wasn't their best subject and they've misunderstood the value of the contents compared to the cost of the bags. As a tip, it's (nearly) always financially better to sell containers (such as ToTs) at the best price you can get & use the resulting coin to fund purchase (at the lowest price you can get) of the specific contents you really want. That goes for the torch, refractors, etc. (There are exceptions, but those mostly only apply to speculators & power traders.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehipone.6812 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 > @Ayakaru.6583 said: > ToT bags get cheaper at the end of halloween, buy 2 bank slots worth of bags, wait a few months, list, and profit. Maybe half a silver per bag, but the speed at which orders fill make it worth it. 250 times 50c, times a bank slot This seems to be a thing that is commonly cited, but anyone who bought bags during the event last year for the purposes of reselling lost money and wasted bank space. Buy order prices during last halloween stayed above 5 silver. In the year following, bags peaked at 5s78c for a very short time, which is still at least a 10c loss after taxes. Consider that prices stayed closer to 5s aside from the short peak near april, and anyone who did what you say likely realized losses when they dumped the bags to clear out bank space. Best time to buy is wintersday when people who took a break come back and clean out all the old halloween festival stuff to make room for wintersday stuff. Who is buying them? Probably the same folks who buy BL keys, dye packs and all the other lucky roll containers - people who are agnostic to the cost and want to take a chance at getting something good. People who want to gamble on the phospho infusion or the new torch or whatever else they are after. When the mini ghost dog gwynyfrywhywhatyever was introduced, mini collectors bought tons and tons trying to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I buy them to open them. I use my play money to buy them, to get play stuff in return, with some small hope of stuff to enhance my play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauderi.8706 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Unique exotics are selling for quite a bit of gold. When I got the drop last night, Touch of Madness was 100g on the trading post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donari.5237 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I mostly wouldn't buy any but I did drop around 10 gold on some today to see if I could get Touch of Madness without resorting to the TP price. I didn't (nor did I get anything else worth more than 6 silver on the TP) so I went ahead and buy-ordered Touch and had it in minutes. Now if I do get Touch later I can sell it, likely for profit, and I'm not fussed about anything else from the bags. I just would have felt bad spending on Touch without at least trying a tiny investment first just to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopeUrban.2578 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 They're buying them because those bags have a small chance to drop some very valuable items, and they aren't happy with the amount they can earn themselves and have extra gold. Most bag type items with potentially anything good in them that can be traded sell for a decent amount because in GW2 its pretty easy to get everything you actually NEED and after 5 years some people have giant stacks of gold that they just play with on the TP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanuk.7961 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I buy them because I'm too lazy to farm them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titje.2745 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 i bought 3k bags because i only lost 2g for a stack of 250 bags, i got an infusion last wintersday so i wanted to try get 1 from halloween too. but i didnt get 1 from the bags i bought... i always open the bags i get because i want to know whats in it. and farming 250 bags is not very fast, so for me its not fast money. guildys sell their bags. and because i got the infusion last wintersday i wanted to try my luck again in 2017 so i lost some gold. yes i feel bad about it but i cant happen. from the tot bags i got some weapons worth low money, if the price dont increase then i use the skin for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vova.2640 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 > @titje.2745 said: > i bought 3k bags because i only lost 2g for a stack of 250 bags, i got an infusion last wintersday so i wanted to try get 1 from halloween too. but i didnt get 1 from the bags i bought... i always open the bags i get because i want to know whats in it. and farming 250 bags is not very fast, so for me its not fast money. guildys sell their bags. > and because i got the infusion last wintersday i wanted to try my luck again in 2017 so i lost some gold. yes i feel bad about it but i cant happen. from the tot bags i got some weapons worth low money, if the price dont increase then i use the skin for myself. You got SUPER lucky to get the infusion. I opened around 10k bags last wintersday and gone nothing. A friend of mine opened over 15k as well and nothing. After that we both only sell bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOrlyFactor.8341 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I bought some earlier because I was tired of farming the Lab and I wanted the candy corn and materials I needed for the Lunatic Armor recipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewcifer.5198 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I don't have the time to farm and I want bag specific drops. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 > @titje.2745 said: > i bought 3k bags because i only lost 2g for a stack of 250 bags, i got an infusion last wintersday so i wanted to try get 1 from halloween too. but i didnt get 1 from the bags i bought... i always open the bags i get because i want to know whats in it. and farming 250 bags is not very fast, so for me its not fast money. guildys sell their bags. > and because i got the infusion last wintersday i wanted to try my luck again in 2017 so i lost some gold. yes i feel bad about it but i cant happen. from the tot bags i got some weapons worth low money, if the price dont increase then i use the skin for myself. On average, opening the bags is worth less money (and costs you time) than selling the bags on the TP. Some people are going to be lucky and do far, far better than average. But that's similar to the odds of winning the lottery: on average, we get back 50% of our ticket costs, but that's because a tiny fraction win BIG while the rest of us get nothing at all. With ToTs, most of us get about 70% of the bag value while less than 1% get the truly valuable drops. Of course, if you enjoy opening the bags for its own sake, and don't mind risking the loss of a few gold per stack, keep opening. There's no law that says that economic efficiency is more fun than rolling the dice; it's just more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altmayer.2746 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 They are also a cheap and really easy way to get materials for vision crystals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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