TheDevice.2751 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 One thousand trick or treat bags. I've tried to keep at least 300% magic find sometimes I get near +500% After opening all those bags.. I got jailbroken and two ghoul amulets... thats it. After days and days and days and hours of grinding stupid bags lol. Man... what is the actual point ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Hide.6345 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I feel you. I only got the pistol and the dagger to drop for me after all the bags I opened. My guildmate got two touch of madness already which I was farming for, so he gave me his spare one out of pity because he knew I was trying so hard to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haishao.6851 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 That's just 4 stack of bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevice.2751 Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @Haishao.6851 said: > That's just 4 stack of bags. > How long do you think it takes to _farm_ a stack of bags? 1. You need a labyrinth train. 2. you need to constantly be clearing your inventory _copious_ amounts of ueless junk 3. You need to keep up your food I mean it takes like a half hour to get 100 with all that set up. Maybe I opened more ffs. I honestly don't know. I don't actually save my bags like that. I open them when I have a lot of bonus magic find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haishao.6851 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > That's just 4 stack of bags. > > > > How long do you think it takes to _farm_ a stack of bags? 1 or 2 hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Hide.6345 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > That's just 4 stack of bags. > > > > How long do you think it takes to _farm_ a stack of bags? There are some dedicated people who can do about 4 stacks in 2 hours running a full squad. I don't care for squad running myself since I prefer to solo farm the lab. It is possible to get bags fast if you no life it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevice.2751 Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @Haishao.6851 said: > > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > > That's just 4 stack of bags. > > > > > > > How long do you think it takes to _farm_ a stack of bags? > > 1 or 2 hour. How is that even possible... I do squad runs. If you're getting four stacks in one hour you're doing something normal people cant do. I literally just got done running with a squad for like half an hour I got maybe 80 bags or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haishao.6851 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > > > That's just 4 stack of bags. > > > > > > > > > > How long do you think it takes to _farm_ a stack of bags? > > > > 1 or 2 hour. > > How is that even possible... I do squad runs. If you're getting four stacks in one hour you're doing something normal people cant do. You asked how long it takes to farm a stack of bags, not 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevice.2751 Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @Haishao.6851 said: > > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > > > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > > > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > > > > That's just 4 stack of bags. > > > > > > > > > > > > > How long do you think it takes to _farm_ a stack of bags? > > > > > > 1 or 2 hour. > > > > How is that even possible... I do squad runs. If you're getting four stacks in one hour you're doing something normal people cant do. > > You asked how long it takes to farm a stack of bags, not 4. > right. So even one stack of bags with a squad run, with like +400 magic find I can get about 170 bags. Where are you getting another 80 bags from tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevice.2751 Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 And even if it was 2 hours for a stack. Thats 8 hours of your life for 1k bags which you get 2 ghoul amulets and 1 jailbroken........... 8 hours. For that. I can spend an hour making 200 dollars irl. XD This is ridiculous. I've actually come to the point where I refuse to do any _real_ grinding/farming in this game. There's no real benefit. RNG is atrocious when it comes to bags/drops/chests in this game. Why would you do it to yourself. Say I farmed for another 1k bags.... another 8 hours. That 16 hours of my life to _MAYBE_ get a chance of an item that is 200 gold in the shop. Why? Why on earth.. why on this good green planet would you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulter.2315 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > > > > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > > > > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > > > > > That's just 4 stack of bags. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How long do you think it takes to _farm_ a stack of bags? > > > > > > > > 1 or 2 hour. > > > > > > How is that even possible... I do squad runs. If you're getting four stacks in one hour you're doing something normal people cant do. > > > > You asked how long it takes to farm a stack of bags, not 4. > > > > right. So even one stack of bags with a squad run, with like +400 magic find I can get about 170 bags. Where are you getting another 80 bags from tho I use Mirage and 2x GS with Sigil of Stamina & Sigil of Energy and Infinite Horizons & Deceptive Evasion, I get about 250 bags in 30mins in a squad. Very strong loot tagging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > That's just 4 stack of bags. > > > > How long do you think it takes to _farm_ a stack of bags? > > 1. You need a labyrinth train. > 2. you need to constantly be clearing your inventory _copious_ amounts of ueless junk > 3. You need to keep up your food > > I mean it takes like a half hour to get 100 with all that set up. Maybe I opened more kitten. I honestly don't know. I don't actually save my bags like that. I open them when I have a lot of bonus magic find. Does Magic Find affect bag-opening? I didn't think it did. Now, it may affect loot dropping, though I'm not sure about quantity; might be only rarity...but opening? Not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haishao.6851 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @TheDevice.2751 said: > And even if it was 2 hours for a stack. Thats 8 hours of your life for 1k bags which you get 2 ghoul amulets and 1 jailbroken........... 8 hours. For that. I can spend an hour making 200 dollars irl. XD This is ridiculous. I've actually come to the point where I refuse to do any _real_ grinding/farming in this game. There's no real benefit. RNG is atrocious when it comes to bags/drops/chests in this game. Why would you do it to yourself. > > Say I farmed for another 1k bags.... another 8 hours. That 16 hours of my life to _MAYBE_ get a chance of an item that is 200 gold in the shop. Why? Why on earth.. why on this good green planet would you do that? Why not covert gems to gold and buy them off the TP? I just made 200 bags in 30 minutes following a random squad. Which mean I lied. A stack takes between 30 minutes to 1 hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 There's been data on 200k worth of bags available on Reddit since the first days of Halloween. The drop rates are pretty clear. * The average value of the contents is always pretty close to the TP/market value of the bags, mostly a bit lower, although it's also been as much as a silver higher this year. * That average value includes the fractional drop rate items that have huge values. If you ignore those items, the average value of the contents is far less than the TP price of the bags. That means you should sell the bags unless you like opening them for the entertainment value. Even those opening 200k bags had different results: one was luckier than the other. Those of us opening _merely_ 1k bags are not going to see average results; we're going to be unlucky. Sure, someone is going to get the good drops opening just a few bags, but it's unlikely to be you or I. ANet is never going to release an RNG container item that has enormous supply that is going to have "decent" chances of getting the good stuff with fewer than hundreds of stacks. If the "good stuff" dropped reliably from only 1000 bags, it would become common, because nearly everyone in the game can afford the time/coin to get that many, and lots of us can afford far more. So in the end, it wouldn't be "good stuff" any more, it would just be a skin that everyone has. tl;dr * If you like opening bags, open them. * If you prefer the coin, sell them. * It's mathematically unreasonable to expect that 1000 bags is enough to get "the good stuff" — being super rare is what allows it to have a strong market price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeivu.3615 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It's easy to get that many in an hour. All you have to do is run with a zerg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @TheDevice.2751 said: > > @Haishao.6851 said: > > That's just 4 stack of bags. > > > > How long do you think it takes to _farm_ a stack of bags? > > 1. You need a labyrinth train. > 2. you need to constantly be clearing your inventory _copious_ amounts of ueless junk > 3. You need to keep up your food > > I mean it takes like a half hour to get 100 with all that set up. Maybe I opened more kitten. I honestly don't know. I don't actually save my bags like that. I open them when I have a lot of bonus magic find. Takes me less than 2 hours to get 4 stacks of bags in the laby. But it's likely the class; I ran both reaper and scourge in there and it's easy to clean up on doors. Ranger isn't nearly as effective, and I imagine most melee classes aren't effective either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I'm sure I've opened like over 5,000 bags and got nothing out of them. The rest I just sold and made my lunatic armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samnang.1879 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 rnjesus blessed me and gave me phos infusion after ~500 bags. but now after 2k bags, i dont got nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @TheDevice.2751 said: Why? Why on earth.. why on this good green planet would you do that? Now that is the best point raised so far. Why did you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamy Lu.3865 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 @ OP, that's exactly the reason why so many players - like me - sell their bags nowadays. This year, I have even stopped farming them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos.3695 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1k bags is literally nothing do get any data. But, if this can be confortable to you, bags are totally not worth opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 If you want a specific item it's almost always better to sell the bags and buy it than to try and get it as a drop. If it dropped frequently it wouldn't be worth so much because there would be many more being sold and fewer people buying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klowdy.3126 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 There is a YouTube video of a guy opening 100k bags, and he didn't get but a handful of items people are hunting for. 1k is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashiva.6149 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @Haishao.6851 said: > That's just 4 stack of bags. > ![](https://i.imgur.com/x9dUvCu.jpg "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronometria.3708 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 > @Klowdy.3126 said: > There is a YouTube video of a guy opening 100k bags, and he didn't get but a handful of items people are hunting for. 1k is nothing. Ok....well, then his point still stands. The drop rates are way too low on the actual good stuff in the bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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