Nels the Cornwhisperer.802 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I was wishing that Rangers could use guns from the start of the game. Now, we are a few years and two expansions in, and we get daggers and staff, but not what what should be another weapon of choice. Longbows, Shortbows, Rifle and Pistol should be the first thing anyone ever thought when you think Ranger. In the military, there are Rangers, who use Rifles, to kill Bad Guys. When close range, it's a knife (Dagger) and a Pistol. I know that Rangers in the game are supposed to be nature-loving and more like Druid's of old, but why do we have Swords, Axes, and Torches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzet.3614 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Ranger will never use gun because even of they had acces to them anet wouldnt make the mistake of giving them the 2300 range ranger longbow has cuz then everyone elses rifle would have that buff to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottsgman.8206 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 funny, when I see the word ranger, I think of archers, the likes Robin Hood, or something like that. I see them as scouts, those who know the land. I don't think 'guns'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenev.5289 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 When I hear the word "Ranger", I think of some veteran soldier, or woodsman. The problem is that a lot of people confuse the word "Ranger" with "Fantasy-Genre Elf", which couldn't be further from the truth. Rangers aren't an archer class - they are a class who is physically weak, and utilise dirty tricks and the environment to their advantage. In essence, they are kind of like nature-themed thieves. If you percieve the Ranger in this way, then guns and pistols definately become viable weapon choices for future elite specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge shot Grif.6450 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 A 'Hunter' elite spec would be very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 But they already use guns. They're called bristlebacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Hunter spec, someday. Patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I say just let me use my harpoon gun on land and we would be good. The piranha skill can still work on land. I've played Saints Row 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellegon Mcleod.5931 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 From a Lore point of view one could argue that the Rangers try to use quiet weapons and as such would try to not use the noisy weapons like Rifles and pistols. This though does fall away as fights can be argued to be noisy no matter the weapon. Mainly think was Anet making sure no class had access to all the weapons of a certain type - here being the ranged weapons. Given enough time one could end up having access to all the weapons on one char and then would not need alts if wanted to do some of the achievements. Just this Charr's 5 bronze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeefa.3915 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 When I think ranger I think a few things. Archers, ranged weaponry, protectors of nature/natural order, scouts, knowledge/knowhow of survival in the wild. I have thought of many things when thinking ranger, but strangely enough never once thought of modern military or firearms. Ranger can mean a lot of things it seems... in GW1-2 terms it is very much connected to the nature theme, more so than to the ranged theme, even if thats a thing too. That said firearms like rifles and pistols is not entirely impossible and might happen one day with elite specs... depending how long they keep on adding more elite specs we might get closer to all weapons on all classes. You wouldn't be able to equip both pistols and rifle though, since elite specs only give 1 new weapon. You would not get dual pistols either, since we only get main or offhand for new onehanded weapons (thus far at least) and not both. Personally I am fine with rangers not having firearms, prefer it really, I guess... But if we get a rifle with elite spec and I don't like it I just wont play that spec... like I didn't play druid... although thematicly I like druid, I do not like to play as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo.5609 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 > @Zeefa.3915 said: > You wouldn't be able to equip both pistols and rifle though, since elite specs only give 1 new weapon. You would not get dual pistols either, since we only get main or offhand for new onehanded weapons (thus far at least) and not both. Spellbreakers got both main and off-hand daggers, so there's some precedent there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game of Bones.8975 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 In the military being a Ranger is like Cavalry, it's a way of conducting warfare, not an occupation. Cavalry is a quick and lightly armored, strike at the flanks, coordinated attacks to take out specific targets, and retreat. Works for horseback in the Civil War, tanks in WWII, and helicopters in today's combat. Rangers were used as Pathfinders to scout ahead of major units to guide them around environmental hazards, into better position to conduct military operations, and, at times, to strategically assassinate enemy leaders. In WWII they were used as sappers to take out bridges behind enemy lines, disrupt supply lines , and pave the way for larger troop invasions. With that in mind, I've always wanted to see the Ranger get a rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeefa.3915 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 > @Nemo.5609 said: > > @Zeefa.3915 said: > > You wouldn't be able to equip both pistols and rifle though, since elite specs only give 1 new weapon. You would not get dual pistols either, since we only get main or offhand for new onehanded weapons (thus far at least) and not both. > > Spellbreakers got both main and off-hand daggers, so there's some precedent there. I stand corrected then, I was not aware of that. Then there could be a possibility for getting dual pistols on rangers one day. It might seem weird but I'd kinda like hammer for a ranger elite spec.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 > @Nemo.5609 said: > > @Zeefa.3915 said: > > You wouldn't be able to equip both pistols and rifle though, since elite specs only give 1 new weapon. You would not get dual pistols either, since we only get main or offhand for new onehanded weapons (thus far at least) and not both. > > Spellbreakers got both main and off-hand daggers, so there's some precedent there. Being able to wield all their one-handers in either hand is a Warrior exclusive trait, pretty much. To represent them being masters-at-arms and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonstarmac.4603 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 If we rangers do get to use guns it will probably be around the same time we get a flying pig pet...although, that could be interesting. F2 on the Flying Pig could be called 'Dive Bomb' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinkz.7045 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 > @"Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025" said: > Longbows, Shortbows, Rifle and Pistol should be the first thing anyone ever thought when you think Ranger. The first I think of if someone mentions ranger in a fantasy setting, is Aragon from LOTR, he uses a sword most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einlanzer.1627 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Ranger literally means someone who ranges lands, i.e. a scout or a nomad. It has nothing to do with either guns or ranged weaponry. Here, it seems that they are mostly sticking with the natury aspect of rangers. It'a also the case that a nomad/scout would want to remain quiet, so they would prefer a bow and melee weapons over a gun. I wouldn't necessarily oppose a future elite that uses a gun, but it isn't as intrinsically tied to the class the way everyone seems to think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadTreeJig.6714 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I'd prefer a crossbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashiva.6149 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 My problem is that Ranger has a pretty good arsenal of ranged weapons already. I'm not against the idea, but what skills would be expected of a Rifle or Pistol without causing too much of an overlap with existing weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 New Elite spec Rambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caiden.9074 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Hopefully never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 > @DeadTreeJig.6714 said: > I'd prefer a crossbow Engineers already called dibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse.6203 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Ranger with guns would make a good elite spec. I think maybe a shotgun or something similar would make it stand out more from other ranged weapons and might be more thematic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearshaman.3421 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 "Rangers rely on a keen eye, a steady hand, and the power of nature itself. Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows. With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation. " Straight from the wiki's quote of what GW2 Ranger is. It's not a military specialist, it's the fantasy version of ranger that you see in LotR, D&D, etc, not the US Army unit or anything like that. Wrong genre lol. And before you point at engineers, Anet already covered that a year ago in the lore forums, pointing out that everyone in Tyria knows how to and uses magic, it's just channeled in different ways based on your profession. Tbh my only issue with this description is the focus on LB, but I can't be mad there cuz we do have an entire traitline called marksmanship. That said, I think an elite spec using rifles would be ok, but given that we already have a 1500 range weapon, I don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen.2907 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 > @bearshaman.3421 said: > "Rangers rely on a keen eye, a steady hand, and the power of nature itself. Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows. With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation. " > > Straight from the wiki's quote of what GW2 Ranger is. It's not a military specialist, it's the fantasy version of ranger that you see in LotR, D&D, etc, not the US Army unit or anything like that. Wrong genre lol. And before you point at engineers, Anet already covered that a year ago in the lore forums, pointing out that everyone in Tyria knows how to and uses magic, it's just channeled in different ways based on your profession. Tbh my only issue with this description is the focus on LB, but I can't be mad there cuz we do have an entire traitline called marksmanship. > > That said, I think an elite spec using rifles would be ok, but given that we already have a 1500 range weapon, I don't see it happening. The fantasy genre origin of the ranger archetype, from Lord of the Rings, is primarily a melee combatant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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