Doctor.1384 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Im not here to complain about balance, I just want to see where the majority of opinions are. Also note that title is scourge and not necro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufo.3716 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 It comes down to pretty much who has the scourge/FB combo. That and who has the most speed hackers. Unreal how many of those I've seen, wish they had a way to report them other than just e-mailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jihm.2315 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 yeah tiered of switching to another character just to have a slight chance with them i wanna play my non meta soulbeast but its extremely non viable with a scourge around also its really annoying when i switch and the opposing necro is a reaper instead needing a whole different character just for the scourge shows how annoying they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscript.3657 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I don't mind Scourges, I mind Firebrands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMS.1976 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 No most annoying matches are against clearly op power druids which are mostle unkillable and melt u with 1 button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namless.4028 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 As someone that only plays scourge that is the only option to pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyczer.7834 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 > @"UMS.1976" said: > No > most annoying matches are against clearly op power druids which are mostle unkillable and melt u with 1 button If you cant kill power "druids" it is mostly a l2p issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadCrowned.6834 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 > @"UMS.1976" said: > No > most annoying matches are against clearly op power druids which are mostle unkillable and melt u with 1 button Druids burst is very limited lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I voted yes but now that I think about it, I don't know if those games actually happen, there are always scourges. But the game was certainly more fun before POF when there were no scourges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seteruss.4058 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 > @"UMS.1976" said: > No > most annoying matches are against clearly op power druids which are mostle unkillable and melt u with 1 button i m trying really hard to find that button in my kb...really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirlias.8104 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falan.1839 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 It depends, when you have people that actually know how to rotate around FB+Scourge and split them it can still be fun, if your team just goes Leroy Jenkins at mid and basically forces you to hard commit there unless you want to watch them die it's usually not a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 > @"Cyczer.7834" said: > > @"UMS.1976" said: > > No > > most annoying matches are against clearly op power druids which are mostle unkillable and melt u with 1 button > > If you cant kill power "druids" it is mostly a l2p issue. This really depends on your class. If you're a scourge mirage or yolosmith maybe, but not everybody has the range, mobility or absurd burst to kill them before their invincible op pet slowly class you to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilson.9865 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Usually i jump into brawl with  or  or  or  or  It's cool i can ignore stuns, kbs,kds,dazes, fears with stability. Such useful boon. Until scourge appear. From that moment my fencing is over. Because WEAKNESS>FEAR>OVER8 condis>FEAR>FEAR> -load in a 3 seconds. Fun ends here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi.6027 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 There is an issue with condi's strength in killing squishier units that should to be addressed when these builds can run more defensive, and are still bursty even after nerfs. There is an issue with how easy it is to cover scourges to keep them alive and range pressure should maybe shut them down a little harder. There is an issue with class stacking. Maybe Barrier's prior state was probably healthier for PvP. However scourges keep bunkers from living forever on point, which I find giving bunkers free reign in a conquest game mode is wayyyy less fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vag.5682 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 mesmers too with this condi stack build total ridiculous both classes. Balance is off the window total unplayable right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liewec.2896 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 its long past duetime that toughness reduces condi damage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverielle.3972 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 But it's not just them, there is basically no balance in PvP. They're just the most obvious because almost every game there are 2-5 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 > @"Nilson.9865" said: > Usually i jump into brawl with  or  or  or  or  > It's cool i can ignore stuns, kbs,kds,dazes, fears with stability. Such useful boon. Until scourge appear. From that moment my fencing is over. Because > WEAKNESS>FEAR>OVER8 condis>FEAR>FEAR> -load in a 3 seconds. Fun ends here. > Lol the retribution trait that gives stab on dodging... nothing makes you more aware of how often your boons are getting corrupted than that trait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBoi.4160 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 > @"Falan.1839" said: > It depends, when you have people that actually know how to rotate around FB+Scourge and split them it can still be fun, if your team just goes Leroy Jenkins at mid and basically forces you to hard commit there unless you want to watch them die it's usually not a great game. ^ True, FB+Scg is indeed OP but it is not as OP people claim it to be, what I found to be most effective against them is mobility and burst. I once had a 2 Daredevil-Deadeye, 2 Eles (I played weaver bunker and the other was an FA Ele), 1 Renegade in my team (you can't get anymore anti-meta than this) versus 2 scourge, 1 firebrand, and 2 other enemies who I've forgotten what there class were. First we decided not to swap, I told them that we might actually have a chance because of our superior single DPS burst and mobility by playing sides and trying to split their Scg and Fbd as best as we could, while our Rev constantly pressure mid and our FA Ele to rotate between three nodes wherever we need a burst (especially against scourge),This was a very close Plat match, and we won mostly by outmaneuvering. It took a lot of outplaying and the game overall felt like a guerrilla warfare this is probably because the map, Skyhammer, worked so well for our comp and the playstyle we adopted. This was one of my favorite PUG match because despite how non-meta we were we won against those hippies through fluid execution. TLDR; FB+Scourge can be countered with mobility and bursts; however, it requires a demanding playstyle and it can be quite fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynz.9437 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 > @"Rufo.3716" said: > It comes down to pretty much who has the scourge/FB combo. That and who has the most speed hackers. Unreal how many of those I've seen, wish they had a way to report them other than just e-mailing. ^^^this. But generally, the more scourges are in match, the less you can even think about nearing a point - red circles everywhere, might as well sit at spawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor.1384 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 > @"Cynz.9437" said: > > @"Rufo.3716" said: > > It comes down to pretty much who has the scourge/FB combo. That and who has the most speed hackers. Unreal how many of those I've seen, wish they had a way to report them other than just e-mailing. > > ^^^this. > But generally, the more scourges are in match, the less you can even think about nearing a point - red circles everywhere, might as well sit at spawn. I almost want anet to release a temporary patch until they release a full balance patch that just prevents scourges from casting shades on point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Godlike.6098 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 More annoyed having two thief's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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